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20:08 < zn-> how much bandwith are you using?
20:08 < zn-> just for the site?
20:08 < CompWizrd> say, the street that the camera is looking down.. isn't that a 4 way stop now because of the lights being out?
20:08 < CompWizrd> i haven't seen anyone actually _stop_ yet
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20:12 < douglas_carmicha> what is 'AKO'?
20:12 < douglas_carmicha> 'fast packing to their AKO'
20:12 < zn-> how much bandwith are you using for the site/mirror?
20:14 <@hfx_ben> hey douglas
20:15 < douglas_carmicha> hey..
20:15 < douglas_carmicha> how are you?
20:15 <@hfx_ben> zn- you might want to drag folk here from #int ... easily the quietest channel
20:15 < douglas_carmicha> hfx_ben>do you know what 'AKO' is?
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20:16 <@hfx_ben> in context? without, no ... but US acros differ from CDN
20:16 < zn-> I was going to offer a mirror but nevermind
20:17 < zn-> I got multiple colod machines
20:17 <@hfx_ben> man, he just gave a frequency ...
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20:17 <@hfx_ben> zn- It's the camera that's the biggest snag.
20:17 <@hfx_ben> meh
20:17 < douglas_carmicha> 'fast packing to their AKO'...
20:18 <@hfx_ben> SARES 80MTR net has been activated http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive ... it will improve steadily as sun sets
20:19 < Exstatica> Well like i said in a icq message i run a NOC in los angeles, and if you need some dedicated servers let me know you can find me here or on efnet
20:19 <@hfx_ben> Ex: would you perhaps tack that up in the wiki?
20:20 < Exstatica> sure
20:20 <@hfx_ben> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page
20:20 <@hfx_ben> You know how it is ... for the loss of a packet the message was lost.
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20:22 < Exstatica> what should i put it under?
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20:22 <@hfx_ben> dunno ... maybe the scrap page huh
20:22 < foot|away> hmm is there a priority list for mirrors? ie winmedia reflectors, shoutcast reflectors, photos?
20:22 <@hfx_ben> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump
20:23 <@hfx_ben> refactor / don't discard
20:23 < grunchley> Grunchley.com is available to add an FTP account if needed to host photos and files, can also set up a subdomain or mirror if needed.  E-mail me at grunchley@grunchley.com or call my cellular at (808) 345-1644 if there's anything I can do.
20:23 <@hfx_ben> grunch? would you post that to http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump too?
20:24 < grunchley> Will do.
20:24 <@hfx_ben> ummm ... you might not want to post your phone# ... and munge your email addy
20:24 <@hfx_ben> same old same-old
20:24 <@hfx_ben> tu folks
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20:29 < hoks> how can i ignore join/part message with mirc ?
20:31 <@hfx_ben> hoks:
20:31 <@hfx_ben> Otions
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20:31 <@hfx_ben> IRC
20:31 <@hfx_ben> check boxes
20:31 < djm> how IS the data being moved from NO to the net without power?
20:31 <@hfx_ben> Events
20:31 < CompWizrd> generator
20:32 < djm> oh thats what the oils about
20:32 < djm> i see
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20:32  * hfx_ben thinks diff versions of mIRC slightly different
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20:33 < comppimp> yup
20:33 < CompWizrd> djm: something like 20 gallons an hour of diesel, on a 750kw generator
20:34 < djm> ah
20:34 <@hfx_ben> sorry PM is failing:
20:34 <@hfx_ben> fligtar see http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/About_nola-intel.org
20:34 < CompWizrd> lot more vehicle traffic tonight than yesterday
20:34 < londarr> how many gallons does a 750kw generator's tank usually hold
20:34 < CompWizrd> good to see that emergency crews are moving around
20:34 < CompWizrd> londarr; well, they were getting 1300-1500 gallons delivered earlier today
20:34 < douglas_carmicha> do we need a generator tech?
20:35 < londarr> ahh ok
20:35 < CompWizrd> in barrels and then into the tank
20:35 < londarr> Compwizrd; thanks
20:35 < CompWizrd> it's a massive generator, far larger than any home generator
20:35 < londarr> yah i bet
20:35 < CompWizrd> you could run a hundred homes off this thing, if everyoen didn't cook at once or turn the ac on
20:36 < theagent> I was CIO for a well known cable network and we had a generator and fuel tank that was enormous
20:37 < CompWizrd> i visited a place in kentucy that had a generator and tank about the size of a semi-truck(the tractor part)
20:37 < CompWizrd> and they had contracts with three different places for a month of fuel
20:37 < CompWizrd> and they were just a small place
20:37 < bitcop> londarr: it all depends on the size of the tanks they have. Tanks are a seperate component of a gen set installation.  The old DC I ran had 10 1.5Mw gens and 7 2Mw gens.  The 1.5's had 2000gal belly tanks, the 2Meg gens had 10k gall on belly tanks + a 15k gallon reserve tank
20:37 < Exstatica> we actually have first priority in an emergency
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20:38 < Exstatica> helicopter refill
20:38 < londarr> wow, very interesting
20:38 < bitcop> every installation is unique
20:38 < CompWizrd> some smaller businesses can get away with a 5000 watt generator just for the computers.. which means you go siphon gas out of the company car when you get low :)
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20:42 <@hfx_ben> I /cannot/ believe the comm problems ...
20:42 < zotted> A quick look at the greater N.O. area using xastir shows not a single APRS (Automated Postion Reporting System) equipped unit of any kind indicating that even the hams are out of comission.
20:43 < theagent> camera change... you guys going live inside?
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20:43 <@hfx_ben> http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive is 80MTR SARES west gulf ... fabulous links
20:43 < htoucles> hfx_ben: hey
20:44 < htoucles> op me and michaelloftis 
20:44 < CompWizrd> oooh, motivational posters!
20:44 < htoucles> Please
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20:44 < macmouse> zotted: the online APRS status is linked over the internet
20:44 < macmouse> they don't really relay between stations
20:44 < macmouse> so its more likly that the home-based relays are down
20:44 < michaelloftis> htoucles: i'm not oped :P
20:44 < htoucles> I know
20:45 < htoucles> He didn't listen
20:45 < htoucles> hfx_ben: ping
20:45 <@hfx_ben> heh ... back
20:45 <@hfx_ben> sec PM
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20:46 < zotted> macmouse:  Good point, since TCP/IP is how I am looking.
20:46  * zotted smacks forehead in shame...
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20:48 <@hfx_ben> htoucles? I don't know you ... and I'm leaving in about 10 minutes ... do you know anyone else? Someone you can PM?
20:48 <@hfx_ben> are you opped in any other channel?
20:49 < htoucles> hfx_ben: I'm selcouth and josh
20:49 < htoucles> Check the mask
20:49 < htoucles> ALso michaelloftis needs op
20:49 < htoucles> He is staff
20:49 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o htoucles] by hfx_ben
20:49 <@hfx_ben> sorry ... been away from IRC too long
20:49 <@htoucles> Is anyone in here opped in -tech?
20:49 <@htoucles> It's ok
20:49 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o michaelloftis] by hfx_ben
20:50 <@hfx_ben> your opped
20:50 < douglas_carmicha> I'm worried about interdictor..
20:50 <@htoucles> Er
20:50 < douglas_carmicha> and his team..
20:50 < douglas_carmicha> if it gets too bad (ie. fire)...
20:50 < douglas_carmicha> can they get out?
20:50 <@hfx_ben> htoucles, you know Nox_?
20:50 <@michaelloftis> tnx hfx_ben :)
20:51 <@htoucles> Yes
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20:51 <@michaelloftis> me too sloooow
20:51 < douglas_carmicha> A guy has offered MP3s if they want som emusic...
20:51 < douglas_carmicha> some music.
20:51 < douglas_carmicha> Will running a soundcard and audio amplifier overload the gen?
20:52 < CompWizrd> http://media.ofdoom.com:8080/movies/katrina.tar.gz.torrent
20:52 < CompWizrd> there's the bittorrent link
20:52 < CompWizrd> for the sigmund.something pictures
20:52 < douglas_carmicha> (I know they pull a fair amount of wattage.)
20:52 < douglas_carmicha> And audio is nonessential.
20:53 < macmouse> well, they said last night
20:53 < notFeanor> if a laptop is available i don't think audio would pull a significant amount more, but only if they had unpowered speakers
20:53 < macmouse> they are running at ~20%
20:53 < macmouse> a laptop is going to be a drop-in-the-bucket for their generator
20:53 < macmouse> somewhere they said it was like 500kw
20:53 < douglas_carmicha> 750kw..
20:53 < douglas_carmicha> didn't know if they had aptops or desktops
20:53 < douglas_carmicha> laptops
20:54 < macmouse> ah ;p
20:54 < macmouse> still, a normal desktop uses like
20:54 < macmouse> 300-400W
20:54 < macmouse> its surprisingly low
20:54 < CompWizrd> they were at 20% load, so 150,000 watts is being used for everything
20:54 < macmouse> thats like, two light bulbs
20:54 < CompWizrd> you need new light bulbs :)
20:55 < comppimp> even a cheap set of powered speakers only use like 40watts or so
20:56 < macmouse> CompWizrd: well, your then using compact floresants, which are different then light bulbs IMHAO
20:56 < macmouse> certianly not incondesant
20:56 < CompWizrd> 60 watt bulbs are fairly common
20:57 < CompWizrd> i do have a 13W circ-lite that is about as bright as a 60, in my room
20:57 < CompWizrd> actually, my entire house is compact fluorescent, except for one or two
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20:57 < foot|away> CF bulbs are great, once a year they go on major sale and can be had for like a dollar a piece
20:57 < CompWizrd> yeah, and they last forever
20:57 < macmouse> yeah
20:57 < foot|away> its some government subsidy program to lower electricity use
20:57 < macmouse> as long as your not using X10, or dimmer switches
20:57 < CompWizrd> my parents house has a 60W circlite that's about 20 years old
20:57 < macmouse> yeah
20:58 < CompWizrd> macmouse: there's dimmable units now, i have a pair upstairs
20:58 < foot|away> you really have to use the highest wattage though - theyre rather dim
20:58 < foot|away> even so, its like 25w as opposed to 100
20:58 < CompWizrd> yeah, i have two 23's outside for floodlights.. replaces about 200W of regular bulbs
20:58 < CompWizrd> someone kick me in the nuts if this all is offtopic :)
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20:59  * comppimp kicks CompWizrd in the nuts
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21:01 < douglas_carmicha> can they HEAR a small pair of speakers over the gen noise?
21:02 < comppimp> the gen isnt in the same room
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21:02 < CompWizrd> generator wouldn't be near the computers
21:02 < comppimp> atleast i wouldnt think
21:02 < Botunda> ok
21:02 < CompWizrd> vibration alone would cause havok
21:02 < foot|away> THe gen is likely a permanent fixture on the roof - probably sound insulated as well
21:02 < CompWizrd> generally you'd have it in its own enclosure, vented and intake to the outdoors
21:02 < foot|away> not necessarily - our gen is an actual locomotive engine and it's not that loud
21:03 <@hfx_ben> botunda: my PM has been failing
21:03 < McGrude> low rpm ?
21:03 <@hfx_ben> I will be refactoring the "Info Dump" when I get back
21:03 < CompWizrd> 1800 rpm is normal, iirc
21:03 <@hfx_ben> prolly 3 hours from now
21:03 <@hfx_ben> I really gotta split
21:04 < McGrude> that is pretty low rpm compared to the engines most people are familiar with
21:04 < McGrude> take care hfx
21:04 < Botunda> see ya bud
21:04 < notFeanor> i think a zipa employee mentioned the generator on somethingawful before it had to be shut down
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21:04 <@hfx_ben> ohhhhhhh you heard!
21:04 <@hfx_ben> Well ... that's good huh huh
21:04 <@hfx_ben> hang in there folk!
21:04 < notFeanor> and said it was in a closed-off area in the parking level
21:05 < CompWizrd> 750kw for the whole building makes a lot more sense than 750kw for one or two levels
21:05 < CompWizrd> or zipa has a lot of business :)
21:06 < Botunda> What do I have to do to recieve IM from #interdictor?
21:06 < notFeanor> i think they overspecced it a lot, if they can keep it at 20% capacity now
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21:07 < Botunda> I asked for sources that people are pulling from but it seems that I'm not recieveing anything
21:07 < notFeanor> or it was for the whole building and everyone else is gone
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21:07 < foot|away> notFeanor: ding ding ding (probably)
21:07 < foot|away> then again maybe they're just growth-minded
21:08 < CompWizrd> well, with blade servers, you end up with a fair current draw per 42U rack
21:08 < CompWizrd> 4-5KW per rack isn't unheard of
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21:12 < mith_> how do i send a PM on this server
21:12 < mith_> i am trying to get to mathx to see what stream he is on
21:12 < foot> youve got to register your nic first
21:12 < mith_> thnx
21:12 < mith_> got a url?
21:13 <@mathx>  mith_ whats iup
21:13 < notFeanor>  /msg nickserv help
21:13 <@mathx>  mith_ i seem to be on the same on as #-scanner
21:13 <@mathx>  what is -tech for? i think we're off topic.
21:14 < notFeanor> well, the purpose of IRC is to be offtopic, and it doesn't seem to be interrupting anything
21:15 < foot> is anyone else getting nothing but morse code on the scanner feed?
21:15 < McGrude> negative foot
21:15 < mith_> i was foot - seems to be good now
21:15 < mith_> needed to reconnect
21:16 < McGrude> All I hear is code
21:16 < McGrude> ah thanks
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21:20 < fitzzz> whats the url of the blog ?
21:20 < foot> mith_: needed to reconnect: what are you listening to?  Im on the shotcast stream and am still getting the same crap
21:21 < foot> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
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21:35 < mith_> what is the right channel on the feed
21:35 < mith_> no one is transcribing it
21:36 <@mathx>  no they arent
21:36 <@mathx>  im trying to get an effort up to do so.
21:37 < mith_> i can do it fora few
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21:37 < mith_> let me kno
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21:57 < kow^> 4] <djbsquared> im gonna part in here guys, ping me if you need me
21:57 < kow^> [18:54
21:57 < kow^> ignore
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22:16 < lostlogic> sorry.
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23:32 < Tetraboy> Notice how slashdot copied the OC-4 typo.
23:34 < Patr1ck> This just in, slashdot misreports. Pictures at 11.
23:34 < Qwijib0> maybe they'll fix it in next week's repost ;)
23:37 < CompWizrd> i see someone else picked up on the fact he said there were 5 people
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23:40 < Qwijib0> my guess is that the people wanting to loot his building don
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23:40 < Qwijib0> 't reasd loashdot...
23:41 < CompWizrd> or livejournal
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23:42 < Qwijib0> now the new katrina pics at sigmund.biz have been /.  :(  even coral can't keep up. 
23:43 < Talon> How do you listen to the broadcasts?  Winamp doesn't seem to like connecting..
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23:43 < Neit> Do you guys have a MMOG to play while you wait? :)
23:43 < Qwijib0> I know the server was full earlier... haven't listned in a while.  Juse reading the transcript now
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23:48 < trig_hm> I don't know what your plans are, but I have a datacenter and office in downtown dallas, if any of your people end up here and need anything let me know, I can probably hook em up with a workstation and can hook you guys up with my pres if you need dc space.
23:49 < trig_hm> ipm.trig@gmail.com
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23:53 < moonwick> hmm
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23:53 < moonwick> I'm trying to mirror the scanner stream, but the source I Was using just dropped its max listener limit to 20
23:54 < moonwick> so now it's pretty much impossible to connect.
23:54 < moonwick> there a better source to pull from?
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23:56 < Neit> I just found this on boingboing and it seems to let me in fine: http://stfunoob.com/nola/scanner.pls
23:56 < CoolerQ> moonwick, I think we have enough mirrors of the scanner stream
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23:57 < moonwick> well, lemme put it this way, I've been mirroring... I was handling ~150 people until a few minutes ago.
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23:57 < CoolerQ> moonwick, ah, erm, I see... I just noticed that my icecast was dropped too
23:57 < Talon> eh - does SBC block shoutcast/peercast ports?
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00:00 < Tetraboy> I wonder how many, if any, wifi hotspots are still active in NO.
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00:02 < trig_hm> this is probably out of bounds, but I host the organ procurement agency for LA, their application is up and running in my dc in dallas, but they are having serious issues finding workstation time in NO in order to input status and answer requests for organs. You guys know of anyplace that might have something available to help them?
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00:10 < sent> hi.
00:10 < sent> uh, i'm a client of DirectNIC, and i've got about 20 domains hosted on DirectNIC, and i was wondering how the power situation is
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00:12 < Torg_> I heard DNS was moved already, and that they have plenty fuel, it's bandwidth that's the problem.
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00:12 < sent> yeah, i noticed that there was only one upstream provider
00:12 < sent> well
00:13 < sent> i need to plan contigiencies if there is an outage with the domain hosting
00:13 < trig_hm> sent: I am a sysadmin for a hosting company in dallas
00:13 < sent> trig_hm: yes?
00:13 < trig_hm> email me your needs, I'll see what we can work out ipm.trig@gmail.com
00:14 < sent> i just use directnic as a registrar.
00:14 < notFeanor> it seems that nobody from directnic is actually in this channel
00:14 < trig_hm> I don't think they are
00:14 < sent> i don't use them as a nameserver
00:14 < notFeanor> DNS is backed up to atlanta
00:14 < sent> just as a registrar
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00:14 < moonwick> sent: if they're only your registrar, you'll be just fine even if they go offline
00:14 < sent> moonwick: only for a few moments - DNS caches won't last
00:14 < Torg_> Heh, the registrar stuff is in the root servers =)
00:15 < trig_hm> yeah if your not actually hosting the domain in their facility you'll be fine.
00:15 < sent> i thought the root servers check for updates on the registrar periodically
00:15 < Torg_> Nope.
00:15 < Torg_> Root servers know all.
00:15 < sent> or vice versa
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00:15 < Torg_> They aren't called "root" for nothing =P
00:15 < trig_hm> root servers are good to go without the registrar
00:15 < moonwick> you won't be able to update nameserver records, but that should be all
00:15 < sent> k
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00:16 < sent> i've got other registrars regardless
00:16 < sent> but i won't be leaving DirectNIC. :)
00:16 < trig_hm> after their performance this week I might move my hosting there
00:16 < Torg_> You'd better not after what these guys did and are doing =P
00:16 < sent> i know.
00:16 < trig_hm> and I work for a hosting company
00:16 < sent> i'm duly impressed
00:17 <@selcouth> What are they using to stream? As far as software goes?
00:17 < sent> trig_hm: which hosting company are you with?
00:17 < trig_hm> neospire.net
00:17 < Torg_> Windows media encoder I think.
00:17 < sent> trig_hm: ah. i've got three boxes at 800hosting
00:17 < trig_hm> sent: too bad
00:17 < sent> too bad?
00:17 < trig_hm> I know the owner over there
00:17 < sent> explain
00:18 < sent> they've been good.. 250 day uptimes
00:18 < trig_hm> I just used to work with the owner of 800hosting, not too much confidence in his technical abilities and dedication to his customers.
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00:18 < sent> trig_hm: the owner doesn't operate the technical aspects of the business
00:18 < sent> he has employees to do that for him
00:18 <@selcouth> trig_hm: what does a typical Access Hosting package cost?
00:18 < trig_hm> 19.95
00:19 < trig_hm> sent: there is just reasons I "used" to work with him and no longer do.
00:19 < trig_hm> no big deal, if your happy with them great.
00:19 < sent> trig_hm: it's a personal thing, i guess
00:19 < trig_hm> yeah
00:19 < sent> although i did have an issue with one of their night techs
00:19 < sent> heh
00:19 <@selcouth> trig_hm: monthly?
00:19 < trig_hm> yeah
00:20 < sent> but night techs are worthless
00:20 <@selcouth> ...
00:20 <@selcouth> For what bandwidth?
00:20 < trig_hm> selcouth: monthly == 19.95
00:20 < sent> the APC power strip went bad
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00:20 < sent> and my box rebooted
00:20 < sent> and for some reason
00:20 <@selcouth> For Access Colo?
00:20 < sent> it lost its default route
00:20 < trig_hm> selcouth: 20GB I think
00:20 < trig_hm> not sure
00:20 <@selcouth> Wow
00:20 < sent> it took the tech, at 3AM in the morning, 6 hours to figure out that my box lost its default route, after i told him to check it.
00:20 <@selcouth> Is Remote cheaper?
00:20 < trig_hm> sent: sounds like bs, I have 237 of the same apc strips he uses and have never had one fail
00:21 < sent> trig_hm: it was cycling power.. there was a transformer problem in the building
00:21 < sent> and the strip would cycle all of the boxes on the same rack
00:21 < sent> about 1x a day
00:21 < sent> after the transformer issue was fixed
00:21 < trig_hm> that's one of my issues, I have my own generator/ups systems/utility feeds, I don't depend on the building
00:22 < sent> the transformer problem was corrected quickly
00:22 < sent> but it probably damaged the power handling circuitry on the APC strip
00:23 < CoolerQ> can anyone suggest stable sources for my mirror of the two scanners?
00:23 <@mathx>  keep this to technical discussions
00:24 <@mathx>  CoolerQ how many feeds?
00:24 <@mathx>  err clients
00:24 < moonwick> I could use one, as well
00:25 <@mathx>  how many clients are these mirrors
00:25 <@mathx>  if they're not 500+ its almost not even worth our tracking them
00:25 < moonwick> I was at 150 before I lost my feed
00:25 < grunchley> There was a request earlier today for FTP access to a server for photo hosting, etc.  Is that still needed?
00:25 < moonwick> peaked around 300 earlier
00:25 < CoolerQ> mathx, I had 300 listeners as well
00:26 < sent> haha
00:26 < sent> that live cam feed
00:26 < sent> how live is that
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00:27 <@mathx>  guys we need 500 ish or its really ahrd to track
00:27 <@mathx>  cuz our other mirrors can be jacked up by 1000 in a blink
00:27 <@mathx>  we have free nac.net bandwidth
00:27 <@mathx>  kinda amazing
00:28 < sent> the live cam feed is pretty live, no?
00:28 < sent> it's running pretty slow
00:28 < moonwick> heh
00:28 < davidc_> can't even connect here.
00:29 < moonwick> I can do a 500 max
00:29 <@mathx>  hit the mirro
00:29 <@mathx>  moonwick: ask doofoo he's the scanner mirror master
00:29 <@selcouth> trig_hm: so I can build my box and colo with access for $20/month for about 20gb?
00:29 <@selcouth> Or does it have to be 1U?
00:29 < CoolerQ> mathx, my client limit is set to 1500 and can be raised more
00:30 < CoolerQ> mathx, it just hasn't been quite that popular so far
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00:30 < moonwick> CoolerQ: what OS are you running?
00:31 < CoolerQ> moonwick, linux
00:31 < moonwick> ah
00:31 < CoolerQ> you?
00:31 < moonwick> dunno what (if anything) you need to do under linux to handle that kind of load, but I had to bump up the number of mbufs under freebsd
00:31 <@mathx>  CoolerQ: set to 500 and talk to doofoo
00:31 < moonwick> so I figured I'd mention it
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00:36 < foobar---> hm.
00:36 < foobar---> still can't reach directnic from here. seems they still don't have a route back :(
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00:40 < sent> any of you guys have a mirror of the kat pics?
00:40 < sent> foobar---: international, probably not.
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00:41 < foobar---> sent: well, i see their routes, but it seems they don't have one back ;)
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01:05 < aztennenbaum> so what is an oc3?
01:05 < toddmori> it is a fibre optic Data line, 45Mb/sec
01:05 < cswanson> how are things in the NOC? Any problems with the generators running 24x7 ?
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01:08 < Exstatica> actually it's 145megs
01:09 < CompWizrd> t3 is 45
01:10 < toddmori> heh, I just speak fibrechannel anyway
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01:10 < Exstatica> ds3 is 45 megs
01:10 < Exstatica> oc3 is 155mb :)
01:10 <@mathx>  145megs = oc3
01:10 <@mathx>  ish
01:10 <@mathx>  there's overhead
01:11 < Exstatica> yeah
01:11 < Exstatica> http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci212685,00.html
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01:15 < aztennenbaum> you guys in NO?
01:16 < toddmori> detroit.mi.us here
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01:16 < OCA|> <-- Dallas
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01:18 < Tetraboy> <- GA
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01:19 <@selcouth> Dallas here as well
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01:30 < roo9> anyone alive in here?
01:30 < ghussey> yup
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01:30  * OCA| twitches
01:30 < ghussey> i'm new though.
01:30 < roo9> anyone alive in here?
01:30 < ghussey> technically capable, though, and at your service.
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01:33 < DarkonOSU> Techy here, just hanging out. Working on my own unrelated stuff in Ohio.
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01:34 < toddmori> same here, just up in michigan
01:34 < ghussey> georgia here.
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01:35 < OCA|> Are redundant logs of the scanner channels needed?
01:36 < illuminarok> did they get any of the oc3s or oc4s up yet?
01:37 < Tetraboy> GA here too, getting ready to go to bed.
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01:37 < mayo> vancouver, bc 
01:38 < mayo> OCA|: if you feel like it .. that box should be fine for now, not sure how many people want to read 24+ and ongoing hours of backlogs
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01:39 < Torg_> Brewtown, cheeseland.
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01:40 < roo9> mayo: i would, what's the link?
01:40 < Q_Continuum> any info sites/image dumps needing mirrors by chance, or risking going offline due to BW constraints?
01:40 < mayo> roo9: oh sorry .. it was posted in the other chan .. http://oyam.ca/interdictor
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01:40 < resistor> ditto what Q_Continuum said
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01:40 < resistor> i have space and bandwidth to donate if someone needs it
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01:41 < mayo> roo9: they're raw live with joins/quits/parts filtered out
01:41 < Q_Continuum> I've got 10+GB space, and 190GB BW for the month that will go unused.
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01:41 < ghussey> heh
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01:41 < ghussey> 190gb is going to go pretty fast with this many people
01:41 < Q_Continuum> haven't switched the client's (tiny) sites over yet.
01:41 < Q_Continuum> yeah
01:41 < Q_Continuum> but every mirror helps :D
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01:41 < Q_Continuum> plus, I can probably get that cap lifted.
01:42 < Q_Continuum> friend of a friend of the owner.
01:42 < Q_Continuum> so if needed, I can see what I can do.
01:42 < mayo> i've got unlimited bw on that box, but it's not on it's own line, it's the last one that couldn't been moved to new colo we were moving to, so not sure how it'll hold up on the old line
01:42 < [EPC]Starblazer> anyone send back the response from a couple of ppl from nanog?
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01:43 < ptptechdalvarez> rm
01:43 < ptptechdalvarez> hrm
01:43 < ptptechdalvarez> what kind of mirroring are you looking for?
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01:44 < mayo> ptptechdalvarez: i'm not really looking, but if people want to mirror, the better, will be easier to get to things
01:44 < resistor> i don't have a lot, but i'm willing to give what i have: 4.8 GB space, 120 GB bandwidth.
01:44 < ptptechdalvarez> I have plenty of space and bw as well ;) and i'm not capped
01:44 < ptptechdalvarez> good routes too
01:45 < ptptechdalvarez> http://stats.ptptech.com/
01:45 < mayo> oh joy, rrd on that box is borked, can't even see the trafic graphs going up .. blah, where's the fun in that
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01:45 < blanu> Hi all. I'm from ACTLab TV. We have an Internet2 mirror available for any videos from New Orleans. E-mail actlabtv@gmail.com.
01:46 < Q_Continuum> notes to anyone in need of bandwidth:  If you need it, post how much space you're looking to tie up.  There are lots of us available, and most of us will probably pay attention in here.  OPS: please set a new topic if someone needs stuff mirrored, as it will be taken care of shortly :D
01:47 < Q_Continuum> should cover the "need a mirror?" question.
01:47 < resistor> heh
01:47 < resistor> indeed
01:47 < mayo> Q_Continuum: put it on the blog as well?
01:47 < Q_Continuum> yeah, probably.
01:48 < Q_Continuum> so that the question stops being asked, heh.  mention that until otherwise notified, bw/mirrors are fine, and then post before things hit their caps, so we can get the mirrors running quickly.
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01:50 < illuminarok> what does outpost crystal mean
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01:51 < Q_Continuum> name for the hosting facility, I think.
01:51 < mayo> illuminarok: it's the name for the place were they're staying
01:51 < Q_Continuum> nickname.
01:51 < illuminarok> i see
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01:51 < illuminarok> thank you
01:52 < [EPC]Starblazer> wow, my G1 gallery doesn't like injesting the first set of photos
01:52 < roo9> if you guys need it, i have a virtually unlimited account that I can host stuff on
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01:53 < sent> heh
01:53 < sent> who's in the webcam?
01:53 < [EPC]Starblazer> isn't anyone translating the 2nd channel?
01:53 < sent> -chat is a scrolling troll fest
01:54 < mayo> front - mike, back - donny
01:54 < sent> ceo and vp?
01:54 < mayo> right - (can't see) is crystal
01:55 < sent> crystal is mike's wife?
01:55 < toddmori> fiancee
01:55 < jon787> what is up with the first channel? I'm getting nothing
01:55 < jon787> [EPC]Starblazer: channel 2 is getting transcribed in #interdictor-scanner2
01:55 < roo9> there is  a lot of chatter on the 2nd cahnnel
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01:56 < roo9> so, who are these guys on the webcam                      ?
01:56 < directnic_rules> Just curious, what kind of storage do you guys use in your datacenter?
01:56 < [EPC]Starblazer> oof
01:56 < [EPC]Starblazer> okay
01:56 < [EPC]Starblazer> my bad
01:56 < mayo> roo9: the people who keep things running :)
01:56 < sent> directnic_rules: floppy disks. lots of then.
01:56 < jon787> [EPC]Starblazer: #-scanner might be doing 2 right now, cause 1 doesn't have anything on it
01:57 < Q_Continuum> floppy disks? bah!  drums!
01:57 < resistor> 5 and a half inch floppies ;)
01:57 < sent> directnic_rules: we have a 10,000,000 floppy disk raid 0 array.
01:57 < mayo> roo9: mike = interdirector
01:57 < roo9> directnic_rules: depends on what our customers want, we have people with highly redundant disks and others that use paper tape
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01:57 < mayo> haha
01:57 < resistor> and they read/write them by hand with a pair of magnets!
01:57 < roo9> sent: is that RAID 0 or RAID 1?
01:57 < Q_Continuum> 8 inch floppies, done by hand with rock!
01:57 < sent> raid 0, bish
01:57 < directnic_rules> hehe.. just was curious the brand.. I work in storage
01:57 < Q_Continuum> raid 0?  hope NONE of them die!
01:57 < Q_Continuum> :D
01:58 < jon787> they need to upgrade from RFC1149 to RFC2549 :)
01:58 < mayo> floppy last long, right...  :)
01:58  * jon787 ducks
01:58 < mayo> s/floppy/floppies
01:58 < SEWilco> Don't say "raid"!
01:58 < roo9> sent: you know, 10m floppies is actually a considerable storage amount
01:58 < mayo> is 2549 the pigeon one?
01:58 < toddmori> directnic_rules: I am free now, but mainly HDS and IBM 
01:59 < roo9> ignoring the logistics of actually being the dude who swaps out the 1000000 floppies
01:59 < jon787> mayo: with quality of service
01:59 < jon787> 1149 is the original pigeon one
01:59 < directnic_rules> Cool.  any multi site / remote copy stuff for disaster recovery?
01:59 < mayo> jon787: ahh i see, neato
01:59 < roo9> anyone know what % of the fiber capacity in NOLA is still up at the moment?
02:00 < ssavoie> 1 0C3
02:00  * Q_Continuum is IBM GS's bitch right now, not enjoying it much
02:00 < mayo> directnic_rules: they're backing stuff up offsite and got plenty local backups too, from what i heard
02:00 < toddmori> DR: yeah, shadowimage and TruCopy, also some time in CNT extenders
02:00 < roo9> ssavoie: just the 1?
02:00 < ssavoie> last we heard
02:00 < roo9> jeebus i feel for them
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02:00 < notFeanor> there are bellsouth techs working on a few more, i think
02:01 < ssavoie> correct
02:01 < notFeanor> the rest are presumably not back since somethingawful is still off the net
02:01 < mayo> they may not share them though .. somebody way saying bell will only be using them for their own customers/purposes
02:01 < mayo> but there is always hope
02:01 < toddmori> directnic_rules: what are you running?
02:02 < directnic_rules> at home?  I have a PC with raid 1 SATA :)...  at work,  developing enterprise storage units
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02:02 < directnic_rules> so lots of running, but for the purposes of breaking 
02:02 < notFeanor> trying to load somethingawful is a good test of what they've got back on
02:03 < toddmori> been there, was in AIX test (storega) down in Austin
02:03 < notFeanor> because it's hosted at zipa and used an entire OC-3 on its own userbaese
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02:03 < directnic_rules> By remote copy  I was talking about real-time site wide failover systems... so you don't have to make copies.. just fail over the site and have continuity of access
02:04 < mrdark> i love hds..our sales rep is so shady it's great
02:04 < toddmori> yeah, we had that, using TrueCopy continuous Access across a GigaMAN
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02:04 < toddmori> we had the primary site, and 2 realtime failovers
02:05 < directnic_rules> funny, I probably don't know anything about the 'real world'... know the boxes inside and out, every component and line of code but its a whole other task to actually use this stuff right.. SAN specialists need like a phd 
02:05 < toddmori> mrdark: sounds like some EMC reps I know
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02:05 < mrdark> our emc reps always make me feel dirty
02:05 < toddmori> heh, it is not too bad after you get it working
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02:05 < toddmori> I have always been lucky to have good HDS reps
02:06 < toddmori> EMC OTOH they are pretty slimy as a whole
02:06 < mrdark> srdf works ok for us
02:06 < jon787> EMC needs better Q&A
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02:06 < roo9> EMC is like the microsoft of the storage world
02:06 < toddmori> heh, I got myself PNG'ed in hopkinton
02:06 < jon787> they had a gaping hole in their Celerra NAS last march
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02:07 < ir8d0g> speaking of microsoft...
02:07 < toddmori> they even out us in the fishbowl in the front, and segregated us
02:07 < toddmori> errrr s/out/put
02:07 < ir8d0g> that's my employer (please shove religious nx wars up your a$$), can i offer any software to help you guys run your site
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02:08 < mrdark> what hba's do you prefer?
02:08 < toddmori> I liked JNI, but.....
02:08 < ir8d0g> contrary to popular opinion, MS isn't the evil empire it's believed to be
02:08 < directnic_rules> What IBM stuff @ directnic?
02:08 < ir8d0g> i can get software to you if you are interested
02:08 < mrdark> ya i like jni too, but i'm learning to dig emulex
02:09 < [EPC]Starblazer> anybody have a direct link to the WM encoder that the cam is using?  I want to throw my bandwidth to the video cause
02:09 < toddmori> had luck with Emulex (AIX only likes those) and Qlogic
02:09 < roo9>  ir8d0g: your right, it's worse
02:09 < toddmori> man, we had the best reps from JNI
02:09 < ir8d0g> hehe
02:09 < Q_Continuum> ir8d0g: I think everyone's doing okay, but I mentioned and mayo mentioned dropping it on the blog, in case bw/etc was needed.
02:09 < ir8d0g> ok....whatever
02:09 < roo9> anyone have any need of some fast website hosting?
02:09 < jon787> anyone who thinks microsoft is bad hasn't heard of IBM's history
02:10 < ir8d0g> why bash....can you get facts and then admit when MS actually has fewer flaws than most others...
02:10 < mrdark> qlogic has those 4gb cards out now i think
02:10 < toddmori> i was loving the onboard multipathing JNI had 
02:10 < ir8d0g> technical support from MS is second to none...for businesses anyway...i can't believe the public still views MS like they were back in the NT days...such a different company
02:10 < toddmori> yeah
02:11 < toddmori> now if the storage mfgrs could just get 4Gb in the arrays
02:11 < ir8d0g> i thought this was a place where logical people would share ideas to help our fallen town-folk...but sadly facts don't abound from the MS bashing posture of IRC
02:11 < toddmori> mrdark: BTW, avoid the SVC like the plague
02:11 < mrdark> are there even any switches out there that have 4gb ports?
02:11 < toddmori> yeah
02:11 < ir8d0g> i'll be here if anyone wants to pvt a logical conversation about things
02:11 < toddmori> brocade  has the 4100 and the 48000
02:12 < mrdark> ah
02:12 < toddmori> we will see what McCNT does
02:12 < jon787> ir8d0g: I'd go for a logical discussion, but this isn't a good place and there really isn't much to discuss. MS isn't that bad as far as companies go
02:13 < jon787> back in the day IBM was bad
02:13 < mrdark> never had much dealing with mcdata or cnt
02:13 < ir8d0g> yeah...but they tried too...just not good enough
02:13 < toddmori> we beta'd the CNT UMD director at a former job
02:13 < directnic_rules> IBM DS4800 is 4gb
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02:14 < toddmori> dude, the DS line is ok, but, seriously avoid the SVC
02:14 < directnic_rules> hehe
02:14 < toddmori> 8 redundant inbounds, 16 connections to the array
02:14 < mrdark> sweet
02:14 < toddmori> one inbound goes down, the thing shat itself
02:15 < toddmori> I stick with my tagmas for virtualization
02:15 < toddmori> beta'd that too
02:15 < toddmori> sweet box
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02:16 < mrdark> ya hds keeps trying to sell us one
02:16 < Number44> which DS do you guys have?  6000 or 8000
02:16 < mrdark> a few more trips to the vip lounge at dallas gentlemens club might convince us
02:16 < toddmori> seriously, can virtualize anything
02:16 < Number44> we're seriously looking at a DS8000 for work
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02:16 < toddmori> I have only worked with the 4000 series
02:16 < sent> heh
02:16 < Number44> ahh 4000 that's their previous iteration
02:16 < toddmori> anything has to be better than shark
02:17 < sent> who wants to see a funny photochop i did? :)
02:17 < sent> http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
02:17 < mrdark> shark has crappy io from what i recall
02:17 < sent> the directnic people will appreciate this
02:17 < toddmori> 4000 series is midrange storage (read cheap)
02:17 < Number44> hahah what's wrong with shark, we had a 2105, seemed to work great
02:17 < toddmori> yeah, the shark has FC frontend, going across 2 RS/6000s pci buses to SSA onthe backend
02:17 < mrdark> we just bought 6 dmx3000's
02:18 < toddmori> serious bottlenecks
02:18 < Number44> SSA was crap that's for damn sure
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02:18 < Number44> ds8000 is FC now all thru or so I think
02:18 < toddmori> HDS, or EMC can run circles around a 2105
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02:18 < toddmori> same with the SVC FC->2 or 4 linux boxes (PCI)->FC
02:18 < mrdark> 2105 no muey bueno
02:19 < toddmori> it just kills bandwidth
02:19 < Number44> don't think they're selling 2105 anymore, it's all 2107
02:19 < toddmori> EMC needs to get virtualization in-band to be a player
02:19 < toddmori> 2105-800 is still available
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02:20 < jon787> EMC needs to put a small bit of quality control in their software so I can't find grave security holes unintentionally withint 10 minutes of using their system
02:20 < toddmori> heh
02:20 < jon787> as a user, not an admin. I still have no clue what system the IT dept has
02:20 < toddmori> maybe they should just get it over with and buy FalconStor
02:20 < jon787> except that its EMC
02:21 < jon787> and EMC wanted the hole kept quiet
02:21 < mrdark> i think i got a sec advisory from them about it last week
02:21 < toddmori> nice
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02:21 < jon787> mrdark: I found this in March
02:22 < mrdark> heh
02:22 < jon787> its been patched here since after finals week last spring
02:22 < toddmori> have any of you been to the EMC offices in hopkinton in the last year or so?
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02:22 < mrdark> ah n/m that is a cpu patch or something
02:22 < jon787> this would be a directory traversal flaw patch
02:23 < toddmori> ouch
02:23 < jon787> lets just say I made it into the root of the NFS server
02:23 < Number44> heard that IBM had some crazy 49 day issue and the box would crash
02:23 < jon787> from a NFS client
02:23 < mrdark> not i..been doing mainly HDS until like 2 months ago
02:23 < jon787> and out onto NFS shares not exported to my workstation
02:23 < toddmori> the 49day issue was the 4.4.x firmware from Brocade
02:23 < toddmori> I think 4.4.2 was supposed to fix it
02:24 < Number44> yah I heard about the brocade one, but this was even if you were sitting there with nothing attached
02:24 < toddmori> yeah, it was a buffer overflow 
02:24 < mrdark> todd, ever use a qlogic switch?  curious if they are worth a flip
02:25 < toddmori> BTW, if I ever see another brocade 3900 I will take an axe to it
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02:25 < toddmori> nah, mainly brocade and McData
02:25 < sent> http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
02:25 < toddmori> I used some of their FC hubs back in the day, those were reliable at least
02:26 < mrdark> ah.  
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02:36 < roo9> good one sent
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02:38 < nefarioushex> Hey folks.
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02:42 <@Eimann> g'morning ;)
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02:43 <@Eimann> Any news? OC3s back up?
02:43 < roo9> onlyonelastiheard
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02:44 < illuminarok> one oc3 is good
02:44 < roo9> okspacebarnotworkinghereitseems
02:44 < sent> haha
02:44 < sent> one oc3 is not enough
02:44 < shanes> not for what we do
02:44 < roo9> notnearly
02:44 < illuminarok> i see
02:44 < illuminarok> what all do you guys do?
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02:44 < illuminarok> i don't know a thing about directNIC lol
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02:45 < nefarioushex> They're a hosting company. 
02:45 < sent> i'm in charge of riding the stationary bike that's connected to the generator that's keeping me on IRC
02:45 < roo9> i'mnetworkadministratoroneitseemswhohasnospacebaronhiskeyboard--this-is-annoying
02:45 < nefarioushex> I was gonna comment on that, roo.
02:45 < shanes> directnic is a domain registrar, we've got hosting, colocation...
02:45 < nefarioushex> I'd fedex you one but i suspect it would get looted.
02:45 < otaku42> what's an OC3?
02:45 < otaku42> (just to pick up that question from topic ;))
02:45 < nefarioushex> Hehe.
02:45 < illuminarok> go into charmap and find one of the spaces and copy it 
02:45 < sent> shanes: you in the room with donny and mike?
02:45 < illuminarok> and use ctrl+v to paste spaces in yoru words
02:46 < N`Grath> i'm a bit surprised their leased lines even stayed up this long, considering our infrastructure over here
02:46 < nefarioushex> There's lateral thinking for you.
02:46 < shanes> no, i'm an hour south of new orleans right now
02:46 < roo9> kind of got the spacebar back now, that's good
02:46 < shanes> working remotely
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02:46 < hfx_ben> anyone awake?
02:46 < hfx_ben> Can someone tell me what this signifies: "Please use the alternate mirrors that are just as good so we can keep the mirror on the original for everyone to share."
02:46 < roo9> anyway, i'm a network administrator for a company here in new york that does high-bandwdith web/media hosting
02:46 < illuminarok> i see
02:46 < nefarioushex> I'm a netadmin, so if you need any nokia / checkpoint / linux type assistance, i'll lend whatever hand i can. But it sounds like you rather need your fibre working to me.
02:47 < illuminarok> well see i'm just wondering how is it even possible that the internet and the optical connections are working at all...
02:47 < hfx_ben> Why is this a bad idea?   * The Mirror Feed: http://ods.org:8003/fema ... what's bad about this mirror?
02:47 < shanes> thanks, and yes.
02:47 < illuminarok> in NOLA
02:47 < roo9> f~illuminarok: redundancy, and a healthy dose of luck i think
02:47 < shanes> OC3s are running on generators down the street, the data center is on diesel also
02:47 < illuminarok> i see
02:47 < illuminarok> that's insane
02:48 < sent> shanes: bellsouth has enough fuel, yes?
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02:48 < shanes> unknown.
02:48 < roo9> last I heard they had 3-weeks worth
02:48 < otaku42> hfx_ben: i think it means that the main server should be reserved for connections from mirror servers, and the mirrors should be used by the listeners.
02:48 < N`Grath> illuminarok: you can easily go 100-200km on a optical fibre before you need repeaters. and since fibre is often buried, it is more likely to survive a hurricane than telephone poles
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02:48 < illuminarok> do you guys have plenty of vonage adapters so you can get "landlines" going?
02:48 < shanes> if we can get fuel in, i imagine they have no problems
02:48 < sent> roo9: DirectNIC has 3 weeks worth of fuel, Bellsouth.. ?
02:48 < illuminarok> there's always skypeout but vonage would be ideal
02:49 < nefarioushex> www.sipgate.co.uk
02:49 < N`Grath> shanes: i'm more worried about their leased line providers
02:49 < roo9> sent: oh, probably not nearly that much
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02:49 < nefarioushex> Yeah, could be sucky if the backbone drops off.
02:49 < hfx_ben> no answer from tech?
02:49 < roo9> sent: we had the problem after 9/11, our datacenter had fuel for MANY days, but core routers went offline we were down to a small % of capacity, it was un-pretty
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02:50 < hfx_ben> Shouldn't be such a major prob ... guys?
02:50 < illuminarok> i wonder whats going to happen down there.. i'm in tennessee my uncle and aunt lived 50 miles west of nola but they were in korea at the time katrina hit
02:50 < nefarioushex> Weren't some of the core routers IN the wtc?
02:50 < shanes> can't give much of a status on network, i'm a developer :/
02:50 < hfx_ben> otak ... sorry,missed your text ... thanks
02:50 < otaku42> hfx_ben: np
02:50 < otaku42> hfx_ben: but that was just a guess, i'm no techie
02:51 < otaku42> hfx_ben: (at least not related to these streams)
02:51 < roo9> what's the name of that website that lets you trace AS paths? i never can remember.
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02:54 < hfx_ben> awwww geesch ... working by committee
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02:57 < nefarioushex> Will samspade do?
02:57 < nefarioushex> XD
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02:58 < shanes> has anyone else's spam slowed down considerably since the disaster? 
02:58 < Number44> shanes: it was that viagra spammer that got busted
02:58 < Number44> wrote 70k perscriptions
02:58 < Number44> arrested, spam REALLY slwoed down
02:59 < shanes> well, we do have some big spammers here around the Slidell area
02:59 < nefarioushex> Funny imagery comes to my mind when someone mentions viagra spam. :|
02:59 < shanes> that may have been him, not sure.
02:59 < nefarioushex> Let me check my antispam thingie.
03:00 < roo9> shanes: yes, it's down to about 42% spam for the past 24 hours
03:00 < nefarioushex> About the same for me, but i'mn not in NOLA.
03:00 < nefarioushex> ...
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03:01 < roo9> me neither, but i am usually at 60+%
03:01 < nefarioushex> Maybe this is to be thought of as like the Great Fire of London, which cleaned up the bubonic plague.
03:01 < roo9> f~nefarioushex: if you ask the anti-gay christians that's exactly what it is
03:01 < roo9> and we are the plague
03:01 < nefarioushex> Oh jesus.
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03:01 < nefarioushex> People like that need to be stopped.
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03:02 < roo9> hell yes
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03:03 < inter110>    
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03:04 < roo9> so, anyone here agree with me and think that rebuilding NOLA is probably a waste of time?
03:04 < nefarioushex> Yeah, make a new town.
03:04 < shanes> well, that's easy to say if you aren't from here
03:05 < roo9> your right, it is easier because I have never been there even
03:05 < roo9> but, i think it's like when I was a child
03:05 < roo9> i would spend hours at the beach building intricate systems of sand walls and trenches et al
03:05 <@Eimann> streams are back online, added them on http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/ - http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 and http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no2.mp3
03:06 < inter878> how can i get the live feed of police, etc., scanners?
03:06 < roo9> all in the path of the oncoming water, and no matter what I did at the end of the day the water always rose up and destroyed it
03:06 < shanes> it's a really old place with more history than most of this country.
03:06 < shanes> kind of hard to let something like that go
03:06 < roo9> shanes: but what if most of that history is already destroyed?
03:06 < roo9> by the time the water recedes there may not be much left to save
03:06 < shanes> it's not that bad, lots of places were never flooded
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03:07 < Etcetera> FYI:...
03:08 < londarr> it is still a very valuable peice of land, and lots of the inferstructure is still intact
03:08  * Etcetera is the Sr. Sysadmin at a SoCal ISP.. lots of hosting space and bw available for katrina-related stuff if needed: One of our founders is from LA
03:08 < roo9> i just hope that after everyone is safe, that BEFORE they start pouring billions in to rebuild that they take some time to consider wether or not to rebuild
03:08 < londarr> infrastructure*
03:08 < shanes> anyone know offhand where cvs-pserver login/password info might be stored?
03:08 < davidc_> well, IMHO, since the land is lower than sea level, seems sorta masochistic to me.
03:09 <@Eimann> i'll be back in one hour i hope, bbl
03:09 < nefarioushex> Depends what CVS daemon you're using i guess.
03:09 < SEWilco> Land surface can be made higher.
03:10 < inter878> where can i get instructions on connection to the scanners via internet?
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03:10 < londarr> as long as the levees are made cat5+ storm proof it can still be a safe place
03:10 < NotJust4Breakfas> the rebuilding, as well as the reason a lot of people live there in the first place, is rooted in semi-sensical sentimental notions of history and charm
03:10 < NotJust4Breakfas> Anyone who goes 
03:11 < shanes> there are lots of songs about New Orleans for a reason.
03:11 < NotJust4Breakfas> "AHHHH" at the mention of "French Quarter" knows what I'm talking about
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03:11 < NotJust4Breakfas> or Bourbon Street
03:11 < nefarioushex> Does it have a Rogue's Quarter?
03:11 < davidc_> oh, I know the place is litterally full of history
03:11 < nefarioushex> Moon over bourbon street is a nice song.
03:11 < NotJust4Breakfas> THat would currently be THREE quarters 
03:11 < davidc_> but any raising of the land would destroy most of that history
03:11 < NotJust4Breakfas> yes
03:12 < NotJust4Breakfas> As well as being fantastically infeasible
03:12 < davidc_> of course :P
03:12 < davidc_> but it was brought up above.
03:12 < inter878> this is the tech channel - where can i find tech instructions on connecting to police scanners?
03:12 < NotJust4Breakfas> They could as easily live in balloons
03:12 < shanes> levee strengthening, and more importantly, marshland revival would need to be invested in greatly
03:12 < NotJust4Breakfas> are you reading the transcribed channels?
03:13 < nefarioushex> I've got to go to the office.
03:14 < nefarioushex> I'll be back.
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03:26 < roo9> ok, i am going to sleep
03:26 < roo9> if any of you guys want some katrina hosting, i can offer help :-)
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03:29 <@Eimann> inconnect to it with your favourite mediaplayer
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03:30 <@Eimann> roo9: Thanks, we should setup a list on the wiki where we can collect the offerings. and a tech-faq is needed to it seems
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03:30 <@Eimann> i'll do it when i'm back
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03:41 < hfx_ben> hey eiman ... all well?
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03:46 < Karotte> hi
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03:48 < hfx_ben> hi Kar
03:48 < michaelloftis> hey eimann... +o here buddie.
03:49 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+oo michaelloftis hfx_ben] by Eimann
03:49 <@Eimann> hfx_ben: i'm fine, and you?
03:49 < ben> I totally wish you guys would stop highlighting me.
03:49 < ben> I really need to fix this.
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03:50 <@Eimann> I've to go now, ttyl ;)
03:52 <@michaelloftis> Eimann: thnx BTW
03:52 <@michaelloftis> sorry i'm backlogged and my food is just finished cooking and i haven't eaten all day so i'm slobbering.
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03:55 < Eimann|mobile> re. jmirc on my mobile.
03:55 < Eimann|mobile> :-)
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04:04 < Eimann|mobile> hi tothic
04:04 < illuminarok> Astrodome is not allowing anymore passengers inside.
04:04 < illuminarok> The people who got off the busses at Astrodome were told they cannot go inside and the busses already left.
04:04 < {dm}> Illum: They are sending them to other places like the areana .. I have heard chatter of Reliant also
04:05 < illuminarok> ah thanks dm
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04:25 <@speakit> moin
04:27 < Eimann|mobile> hi Occam
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04:40 < K7AAY> Howdy, all, from PDX OR
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04:41 < K7AAY> Have just added a huge chunka stuff over at the Wiki, including
04:42 < K7AAY> a description of web->SMS, e-mail -> SMS and SMS -> e-mail
04:42 < Eimann|mobile> thanks:)
04:42 < K7AAY> as SMS works even when mobile phones have no dial tone.
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04:43 < K7AAY> Missing some detail on some carrier info, would appreciate fill-in if you know the port number for SMS->e-mail for SPCS, Vzn, Nexthell.
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04:44 < K7AAY> It's all in InfoDump.
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04:46 < Eimann|mobile> i'll do add some infos back home
04:46 < Eimann|mobile> -do
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04:48 < Eimann|mobile> uh, my mobile phone is running out of memory. too much traffic in the scanner channels
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05:06 <@hfx_ben> k7aay are you licenced ham?
05:06 <@hfx_ben> ahhhhhhh that's from you ... great stuff ... it's still in the InfoPile.
05:07 <@hfx_ben> oh-woops ... forgot to turn time on
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05:11 <@hfx_ben> nite y'all
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05:20 <@speakit> eimann has some connection problems to freenode
05:20 <@speakit> he is back home in 20minutes
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05:22 < KronicD> [16:41:44] <K7AAY> Have just added a huge chunka stuff over at the Wiki, including
05:22 < KronicD> [16:42:09] <K7AAY> a description of web->SMS, e-mail -> SMS and SMS -> e-mail
05:22 < KronicD> Got url?
05:25 < KronicD> nvm found it
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05:46 <@Eimann> re
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06:04 < Pete_O> I offered yesterday to help mirror in the UK, but having heard nothing back I'm assuming that you're fine
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06:08 <@Eimann> Hi Pete_O, i entered my offer there: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/InfoDump#Resources_available.2Foffered: - But it seems that we actually had enough mirrors. Let's see, what will happen this day and if we need more mirrors.
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06:40 < Pete_O> Hi Eimann - Thanks for the info
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08:15 <@Eimann> Jep.
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08:21 <@Yog-home> damn...900 ppl in the main chain now
08:23 < X15> Any wiki people here?
08:23 <@Eimann> hm, i can't edited the mainpage when i'm logged in
08:24 < X15> It looks like they have it locked
08:24 <@Eimann> grr :-/
08:24 < X15> Noones done anything on it sence i edited 30 min ago so i'm just gonna junmp in and start refactoring, it's a mess
08:24 < X15> Need to make more pages, setup categorys, etc
08:25 <@Eimann> that sucks. i'll update my mirror links and so on
08:25 <@Eimann> yep, me too
08:25 < X15> Cool, i'm gonna start spliting up Radio_info
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08:40 < X15> Radio Info is alot clearner now, need to extract the HAM frequencys i think
08:41 < X15> Hmmm, i can edit the main page now
08:43 < X15> NM, i have the edit links, but i guess it's still locked
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08:45 < Karotte> uhm
08:45 < Karotte> the nola site is getting slammed
08:45 < Karotte> They're using apache I assume?
08:47 < X15> nola.com?
08:47 < Karotte> www.nola-intel.org/pictures2/
08:47 < X15> *shrug* who knows
08:48 <@Eimann> i think they are
08:49 <@Eimann> They're running Apache on FreeBSD
08:50 < X15> Heh, Defenders arn't aircraft, who wrote some of this stuff...
08:50 < X15> (radio calls)
08:51 < Karotte> hm I'm trying to mirror pictures
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08:58 < Karotte> Eimann: I'm using lighttpd for such sites, the numbers are incredible
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08:59 < Karotte> Apache: 300 req/s, lighttpd: 3k-15k req/s
08:59 <@Eimann> Jep :)
09:00 <@Yog-home> apache is so bloated
09:00 <@Eimann> lighttpd is cool, boa also
09:00 < X15> But can lighthttpd do everything Apache can do?
09:01 < X15> Apache is big for a reason
09:01 <@Yog-home> probably not
09:01 < iapx8088> any help wanted?
09:02 <@Yog-home> heh.. I should send interdictor my canon 20D and 300MM IS lense
09:02 <@Yog-home> then he could take better shots
09:02 <@Yog-home> :)
09:02 < X15> iapx8088: Update teh wiki
09:03 <@Eimann> Yog-home: Uh yeah :)
09:03 < X15> I think he'd probably perferr a good scope, lol
09:03 <@Eimann> Yog-home: I got only a 350D with 300mm IS Lense :)
09:03 <@Yog-home> 350D is nice too
09:03 <@Yog-home> or 'Rebel XT' as they call it here
09:04 <@Yog-home> I also have an old Rebel
09:04 <@Yog-home> I keep meaning to sell it
09:04 < iapx8088> X15, I'm in italy, I have no first-hand news. I'm trying to collect some and put in my italian wifi
09:04 < iapx8088> s/wifi/blog/
09:04 <@Yog-home> 350D can do almost everything the 20D can do, cept it doesn't ahve ISO 3200 mode, and it doesn't shoot full auto as fast (3fps vs. 5fps on the 20d)
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09:05 <@Eimann> "italian wifi" is cool ;-))
09:05 < iapx8088> X15, but if you wish, I can try...
09:05 < iapx8088> Eimann, italian wifi, is usually open :)
09:05 <@Yog-home> Eimann: www3.jsbc.cc/gallery <- those all taken w/ the 300D or 20D :)
09:05 <@Eimann> My german wifi (ESSID: OpenAP) is usually open too :)
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09:06 <@Eimann> Yog-home: i've my picturs on gallery.etherkiller.de - login is gallery:gallery
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09:07 <@Yog-home> You don't have permission to access /gallery/ on this server.
09:07 <@Yog-home> oh..hold on
09:07 <@Yog-home> bad url
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09:08 <@Yog-home> oh good.. i get to practice my german from high school 20 years ago :)
09:09 <@Yog-home> Eimann: most my pics are motorsports releated :)
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09:09 <@Eimann> I see ;)
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09:10 <@Eimann> Yog-home: I'm actually looking at the babes album ;)
09:10 <@Yog-home> ah :)
09:11 <@Yog-home> the motoGP babes eh ? :)
09:11 <@Yog-home> I was pretty bold that day...like paparazzi or something
09:12 <@Eimann> jep ;)
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09:18 <@Yog-home> heh..checkpoint charley
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09:18  * Yog-home wonders how many people on here are old enough to remember when Berlin was split in two
09:19 <@Yog-home> Eimann: were you using a tripod or monopod for those night shots ?
09:20 < mcsmurf> Yog-home: uuh none? ;)
09:20 < mcsmurf> well maybe a few
09:20  * Eimann can't remember
09:20 <@Eimann> I'm 17 years old ;)
09:21 <@Yog-home> oh..that was a casio
09:21 <@Yog-home> ah :)
09:21 <@Eimann> Yog-home: a tripod
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09:21 <@Yog-home> ah ok
09:21 <@Yog-home> was going to say, if those were handheld, you are very steady :)
09:22 <@Eimann> *g*
09:22 <@Yog-home> http://gallery.etherkiller.de/BerlinatNight/05220082_G <- what building is this ?
09:22 <@Eimann> i'm taking a tripod with me, when it's planned to take nightshots
09:22 <@Yog-home> looks like a science fiction movie
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09:22 <@Eimann> It's the Sony Tower at Potsdamer Platz
09:22 <@Yog-home> yeh.. i hate lugging them around but you really need them
09:22 <@Yog-home> ah
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09:24 < dantekgeek> What kind of digital camera is being used to take the shots on the street?
09:24 < JWIV> Longer exposure time to get enough light is always fun to deal with
09:25 <@Eimann> dantekgeek: It was a Casio, which model i don't know actually, the shots are from 2003 or so, i don't remember ;)
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09:25 < dantekgeek> thanks
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09:25 <@Yog-home> heh.. Bush is taking off in Air Force One
09:26 <@Eimann> davidc_: exif info say:
09:26 <@Eimann> Equipment Make	:	CASIO	
09:26 <@Eimann> Camera Model	:	QV-4000
09:28 <@Yog-home> Eimann: what sort of plant was that Duisburg-Nord ?  Refinery ?
09:28 <@Yog-home> chem plant ?
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09:29 <@Eimann> No, it was a furnance (Hochofen in Germany, Stahlwerk (steelworks?)).
09:29 <@Eimann> s/Germany/german
09:29 <@Yog-home> oh..ok
09:30 <@Yog-home> http://gallery.etherkiller.de/Freitag01/01010008_G <- you know, gallery allows you to rotate the pictures ;)
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09:32 <@Yog-home> heh.. LinuxTag .. I've never been to a Linux convetion.. almost went to the LinuxWorld in SF but had something else to do
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09:35 < Heliox> any news on the oc3's?
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09:35 <@Eimann> Heliox: nope
09:36 <@Eimann> Yog-home: Hm, can't remember my gallery-password, so i can't rotate the pic ;)
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09:38 <@Eimann> hm i'll be back in 15 minutes :)
09:38 < wemmi> where i am possible to see bush in live video?
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09:59 <@Eimann> re
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10:02 < SP4Ruisi> Former US Army 31F/11H - field digital multichannel coms training 
10:02 < SP4Ruisi> plus 1 yr in infantry
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10:02  * veruus throws SP4Ruisi an M-16
10:02 < veruus> stop the looters plzkthx
10:02 < veruus> :D
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10:04 < SP4Ruisi> looking to provide any assistance i can 
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10:04 < iapx8088> going to sleep a bit. If you need some help, just call me.
10:04 < iapx8088> I'll be back in a while.
10:04 < Sweeper> unix sysadmin, ready to help~
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10:04 < eMoose> I can offer hosting for any static content - we only have a 10M pipe available, but every bit helps...
10:04 < iapx8088> anyhow, I'm trying to summarize it in my blog (in italian).
10:05 < veruus> <-- can assist w/ linux sysadmin tasks
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10:05 < gooroo> I've got 100MB in NE UK
10:05 < Sweeper> oh,a dn I can do spanish translations,, if needed
10:05 < Sweeper> and have 1GBPS colo, if needed
10:05 < eMoose> We're canadian too, and have connectivity to all the canadian backbones
10:05 < SP4Ruisi> hey... do the people on the ground have any access to the broadcast media? 
10:06 < iapx8088> freebsd admin here, with some knowledge with php, here if there's need. And italian traslation too. No bandwith as the pipe isn't mine.
10:06 < SP4Ruisi> AM radio, etc
10:06 < eMoose> someone should go hit up akami for some content caching
10:06 <@Eimann> veruus: u should offer your help in #norescue, take a look at http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php and http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php/Locations_And_Abilities - Tahnks!
10:06 < SP4Ruisi> if cont, people should be getting the hand-crank radios out
10:07 < veruus> Eimann: thanks
10:07 <@Eimann> http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/InfoDump#Resources_available.2Foffered: - For Colo/Server-Stuff
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10:08 <@Eimann> eMoose: I'll write akamai noc soon.
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10:10 < eMoose> Eimann: that would probably be the best solution overall
10:11 < eMoose> Eimann: I can still host static content if you need it
10:12 < fooki_> has someone set up a list of people who have been confirmed to be alive?
10:12 < X15> I think that's still abit premature fooki
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10:13 < D90> who
10:13 < princessfrozen> CNN has something of that nature
10:13 <@Eimann> eMoose: Actually there's no need i think, but thanks for the offer :)
10:14 < eMoose> Eimann: no worries, let me know if I can help - I can do some Unix/router/etc admin if required too,
10:14 < eMoose> fooki: CNN does have that for sure.
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10:15 <@Eimann> eMoose: Adminstuff could be needed at #norescue please also take a look at the wiki: http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php and http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php/Locations_And_Abilities - :-)
10:15 <@Eimann> i'll be afk now for some minutes to talk to akamai and ask, if they can host our content.
10:16 < SP4Ruisi> k.. i just emailed in my abilities... 
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10:17 < princessfrozen> oy popups
10:19 < rigbyd> Ok, was readin the wiki, maybe im blind but i cant find any information on interdictor and his people. What are the different "Outposts"?
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10:20 < rigbyd> sorry
10:20 < rigbyd> wrong channel
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10:21 < rigbyd> That aside I work in IT and can am willing to provide what i can, which is not much aside from time and general technical support
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10:22 < princessfrozen> I too work in IT, I'd be willing to do whatever remote admin type things as needed.
10:27 < toddmori> Fox is reporting that the chillers @ BellSouth are about to go out
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10:27 < L-ox> chillers?
10:27 < L-ox> got a link toddmori, or is this cable/sat TV?
10:27 < eMoose> fancy word for Air Conditioner. :-)
10:27 < toddmori> they act as teh heat transfer for the datacenter
10:27 <@Eimann> Ok, phone and mailed some facts to the Akamai NOC, waiting for a response now :-)
10:27 < toddmori> FOX News
10:28 < toddmori> BIG ac
10:28 < eMoose> well, yes, big a/c would be appropriate.
10:28 < toddmori> not sure though, they are saying that they need to pump water into them, unless they arean evaporation bed, that doesn't make much sense
10:28 <@Eimann> Hm, message on NANOG:
10:28 <@Eimann> Can someone contact me from Xspedius? I am investigating an issue for the
10:29 <@Eimann> American Red Cross in New Orleans.
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10:40 < gooroo> is the video feed still alive?
10:40 <@Eimann> http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans works for me
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10:42 < galaad2> Eimann, that feed is 327 Kbps.. have you got one a little less bandwidth hungry ?
10:42 < galaad2> i'm on a measly 256 kbps link here
10:42  * riel is more worried about the server running out of bandwidth
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10:43 < galaad2> oh goodie.. it downgraded itself automatically to 163 kbps
10:44 <@Eimann> galaad2: nope, sorry. Try to enlarge your players cach
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10:56 <@Eimann> Akaimai NOC forwarded my question to Akamai Sales ;-)
10:57 < besonen_> does Outpost Crystal still have only a single OC3?
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10:58 < X15> Yes
10:58 < galaad2> seems so
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11:00 < princessfrozen> Are there any webdesign types in here?
11:01 < iapx8088> what do you mean
11:01 < iapx8088> I'm used to work with php.
11:02 < iapx8088> I used to work (bad typo)
11:02 < vverpoort> yeah 
11:02 < vverpoort> what you wanne know
11:02 < princessfrozen> I'm looking to create a website encouraging people to donate one day of their pay to relief efforts, whether it be by taking the day off and volunteering or by donating one days wages...however my site design skills are quite primitive
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11:03 < vverpoort> hmm you want some help ? or you want someone to do it all ? 
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11:03 < vverpoort> i'm willing to aske some of my poeple to help on building it 
11:04 < princessfrozen> help
11:04 < princessfrozen> i have a general idea, i just dont know how to implement it
11:04 < vverpoort> if you can comeup with the info thats needed and the content ill see what i can do 
11:04 < princessfrozen> that would be great, thank you
11:04 < vverpoort> i just dont think poeple will do that 
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11:05 < princessfrozen> why not?
11:05 < vverpoort> i thik you got a beeter thing when you say or make a kind of info page where poeple can meet one and other and go there to help with the rebuild 
11:06 < vverpoort> i think there are already allot of donation things going on and stuff like that 
11:06 < princessfrozen> this is true
11:07 < vverpoort> maybe it better to start something to make/help poeple be inforemd and where they can coordinate follenteer work 
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11:08 < SP4Ruisi> the focus has to be on getting out of the city
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11:09 < vverpoort> yeah make a site where poeple can give information on how to do that out of there own experiance
11:09 < iapx8088> i'm completely with vverpoort.
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11:10 < SP4Ruisi> you guys have a stream from the scanners? 
11:10 < torg> There are a couple streams listed in the #interdictor-scanner topic.
11:11 < princessfrozen> is there motions in place for funding to be used for bussing people out of there?
11:11  * princessfrozen takes this to chat
11:11 < Etcetera> http://www.redwire.net/~jccleaver/katrina/
11:11 < Etcetera> some wiki links there...
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11:12 < torg> Congress approved 10.5 billion in aid yesterday.
11:12 < joev> If they approved one tenth of that years ago, they wouldn't be in this mess.
11:13 < moonwick> heh.  that'll be a nice down payment on what this ends up costing in the end.
11:13 < torg> Yeah, pretty much, but it's a good start.
11:13 < joev> (Oops; didn't notice this was in -tech)
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11:15 < torg> Has there been any new updates this morning on their uplink situation?
11:15 < torg> or is it the same as it was at about 11pm CDT last night?
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11:16 < X15> One Oc3 is all
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11:17 < torg> Ok... so nothing has changed =(
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11:18 < X15> No, but Bellsouth may get theres back up, there at the there building but say it's not a priority
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11:19 < torg> Thanks man.  I just didn't want to be the eleventy-billionth person to ask that in the main channel =P
11:22 <@Eimann> hehe
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11:24 < notFeanor> i wonder if they're on fire
11:24 < torg> if who is on fire?
11:25 < torg> Donny's been posting in the main channel, so the DirectNIC guys should be safe.
11:25 < gooroo> he just posted an update on the blog as well
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11:25 < mojo> blog URL?
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11:26 < torg> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
11:26 < mojo> thanx!
11:26 < gooroo> http://mgno.com/
11:26 < collusion> looks like the main wiki site is overloaded?
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11:26 < torg> They said in the main chan that it was broken, and they are fixing it now.
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11:28 < collusion> i have access to some bw/cpu if that would be helpful
11:28 < torg> I heard that they have all the mirrors they need now.
11:28 < jtk10> HArdware or software issue?
11:28 < torg> They didn't say.
11:29 < gooroo> they say they've got 10Gbps from somewhere.. so i think they are sorted
11:29 < torg> Heh, look at the blog comments when they asked for mirroing space.  TONS of people stepped up.
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11:33 < rilliam> are the new pics posted somewhere?
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11:59 < mith_> i am getting the following error message when trying to view the video feed - "WMP cannot connect to server..."
11:59 < torg> Yes, the wiki is down, and people are working on it now.. it was reported in the main chan.
11:59 < mith_> have been getting it all morning
11:59 < torg> [11:01:03 AM] <jon787> the camera feeds go reset a short time ago, if you are having problems in the last 30 minutes, try reconnecting now
11:59 < torg> From main chan on video feeds.
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12:01 < torg> It's still endless buffering on this end, but I can connect.
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12:06 <@Eimann> torg: We're trying to move our relay (http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans) from the mises relay to the original source stream
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12:06 < torg> Nice.  The mirroring effort being done is amazing.
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12:08 < Ben-377T> torg - no joke!  very impressive
12:08 < stew> anything being done to fix http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Current_events ?  anyway I can help?  I know php/linux/etc...
12:09 < torg> They are working on it stew.  It was mentioned in the main chan.
12:09 < stew> cool
12:09 < jon787> 10k messages, about time I archived nanog and startd a new folder for it
12:09 < torg> I imagine the traffic hitting that site is astronomical.
12:13 < Alex_NYC> is there a cam that actually works?
12:13 <@Eimann> We're doing around 300-500mbit/s actually with three boxes here in Germany
12:13 < torg> Yes, but they are pretty well overloded with all the traffic alex.
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12:13 < torg> http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans I'm on this feed atm, it's spotty, but it works.
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12:14 < Alex_NYC> im  trying that one
12:14 < Alex_NYC> surprised there are not more mirrors
12:14 < Alex_NYC> hmm
12:14 < Alex_NYC> think im on
12:14 < torg> I don't think the mirrors are hte problem.
12:14 < Alex_NYC> whoa
12:14 < Alex_NYC> fire
12:15 < torg> Yeah, there are 3 burning according to the blog.
12:15 <@Eimann> Alex_NYC: My problem to mirror it was the missing windows server with windows media server. so i asked a friend who is working for another provider, he helped me out with the 194... box
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12:15 < Alex_NYC> nice work Eimann
12:16 <@Eimann> 194... fucked up, services unavailable, hmmm.
12:16 < torg> Yeah, I agree, keep it up =)
12:16 <@Eimann> i'll check what happened :/
12:16 < Alex_NYC> im buffering
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12:18 <@Eimann> Uups: Server return 453:Not Enough Bandwidth
12:18 < torg> Yeah, I've gotten that message a few times too.
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12:20 <@Eimann> Warghs, we need Akamai or more Hardware hier in Germany too keep it up. Our Box is under high load and i haven't enough hardware here to build another one
12:20 < torg> Eimann, got it to connect, and quit buffering, but it's just a black feed.
12:20 <@Eimann> Hm, ok.
12:20 < Alex_NYC> maybe lower the bitrate/?
12:21 < torg> The mises.org mirrors seem to be borked as well.
12:21 < torg> Perhaps the main feed is overloaded?
12:21 <@Eimann> This could be a reason why we get no video ... :/
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12:21 < torg> That's what I'm thinkin.
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12:22 < torg> Seems like every major online news site is linking this now.
12:22 <@Eimann> I'll ask for an access-control list at the main server, so only the relay can connect to the main-source.
12:22 < torg> That would be a great idea.  Only let mirrors connect to the main feed, and have the users hit the mirrors.
12:24 <@Eimann> Jep :)
12:24 < |ynchmob> i have a p3 800mhz w/ 512mb ram sitting at the isp i work for that can be used for a mirror if its needed
12:25 <@Eimann> 02.09.05 18:24 I have only 3 connections to my main feed 
12:25 < Bluelive> needs more mirrors and noone on the providing hosts
12:25 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: Can u run Windows and Windows Media Streamingservices or Linux + Realmedia Server on it? We need mirrors for the videofeed
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12:26 < royb> if someone can find a home in either charlotte or greensboro, i can offer a dual p2 400 with 512mb with whatever OS.
12:27 <@Eimann> my http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no2.mp3 is down too ://
12:27 < torg> Is that the scanner feeds?
12:28 < Sweeper> yea
12:28 < |ynchmob> its got slackware 10 running with apache 1.3 - i can get the realmedia set up on it if you can gimmie a link
12:28 < |ynchmob> in West Point, Georgia
12:28 <@speakit> Eimann, to much load? for no2.mp3?
12:29 <@speakit> i can setup another relay on berkman in amsterdam
12:29 <@speakit> icecast2
12:29  * speakit imc tech
12:29 < |ynchmob> if you'd prefer i can just set you up a shell acct with sudo priviledges to do whatever's needed
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12:33 <@Eimann> speakit: mom
12:34 <@Eimann> speakit: my source for no2.mp3 gone away
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12:35 < torg> Cam mirroring is being discussed on the main chan atm.
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12:38 < NACAlex> I am here
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12:39 < Nac-paradox> I am here
12:39 < moonwick> ltnc.
12:39 <@Eimann> hi there, alex
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12:39 < NACAlex> hello
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12:39 <@Eimann> oh, cool, so many nac.net people :)
12:39 < NACAlex> if you want us to mirror cams or whatever, we can get a couple more servers going
12:39 <@Eimann> what u need to mirror, is a server which can relay mms/wmv, it should be a windows server with windows media services. if u have such a box, it would be cool
12:40 < SEWilco> "Main channel" keeps getting mentioned here, perhaps the Topic should mention what channel that is.
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12:40 < mariab> has anyone considered the effect of ash/dust on the aircon chillers?
12:40 < torg> darwin streaming server should work too. (According to the main channel #interdictor)
12:40 < Nac-paradox> windows
12:40 <@Eimann> otherwise, i think, we can use realmedia server for it under linux. this should work too.
12:40 < Nac-paradox> dual amd 244 or a p4 3,2
12:40 < Nac-paradox> I can give any os
12:40 <@Eimann> torg: what?! coool! :)
12:40 < Nac-paradox> win2k3, centos, fbsd, 
12:40 < torg> I would think bandwidth would be the issue, not cpu/ram.
12:40 < Nac-paradox> all in 7 minutes or less (cept windows)
12:41 < Nac-paradox> so let me get some p4 3.2's fired up
12:41 < SEWilco> aircon chillers just got rinsed with a hurricane's worth of water, they probably can survive smoke and dust for a while.
12:41 < Nac-paradox> I am already getting 2 for ods.org
12:41 < NACAlex> is anyone from directnic here, or no?
12:41 < Alex_NYC> cpu will get hit as well as bw
12:41 <@Eimann> hm, ok, if darwin is working, we can use centos for that i think
12:41 < Nac-paradox> centos 3.5 released today on our stuff :)
12:41 < torg> I know donny from directnic is in #interdictor
12:41 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+oo Nac-paradox NACAlex] by Eimann
12:41 <@NACAlex> is his nick 'donny' ?
12:42 < X15> yes
12:42 < torg> As far as I know, yes.
12:42 < mariab> I've never known a chiller to just get dirty sitting around in the open air
12:42 <@NACAlex> msg donny there?
12:42 < mariab> but the dust is going to stick to the fits, and it's going to start blocking it up
12:42 < mariab> s/fits/fins/
12:42 < torg> #interdictor is moderated, so as for voice if you want to talk to everyone.
12:43 < MatthewAT> hey - I'm at a very well connected west coast university (dual OC48s + Internet2) with a windows media box. might be able to hook you up with something, if you need it.
12:43 <@Eimann> MatthewAT: Yep, sure :-)
12:43 < MatthewAT> do you have a mirroring procedure in place?
12:43 < zotted> Yesterdy I posted about the lack of APRS units in NOLA.  Apparently some repeaters and gateways are back online since I see a few units today via xastir.
12:43 < torg> The wiki is back up. (Static only though.)
12:44 <@Eimann> MatthewAT: I don't know much about windows media services, but i think, it should pretty easy. if u can't setup it, i'll take a look at it, via remote desktop
12:44 < MatthewAT> ok, give me a few to tweak the box. i'll get back to you
12:45 <@Eimann> ok, thanks man! :)
12:45 <@speakit> Eimann, if you can figure out how to relay the stuff with dss... bbl in a half or so.. 
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12:45 <@Eimann> speakit: ok
12:46 <@Nac-paradox> Hi. directnic.
12:46 <@Nac-paradox> what os do you want on these 2 boxes
12:47 < torg> I dunno if there are any directnic people in this channel.  You might get better response to that in the main chan (#interdictor)
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12:47 <@Eimann> Nac-paradox: We should use CentOS and Win2k3, if this is no problem.
12:48 < torg> Me, I'm just a fellow geek trying to fend off some of the questions from em =)
12:48 <@Eimann> Nac-paradox: So we can test the Darwin Streaming Stuff and use the Windows Media Services
12:48 <@Nac-paradox> 1 centos
12:48 <@Nac-paradox> 1 win2k
12:48 <@Nac-paradox> ok
12:48 < torg> MrPants in the main chan seems to be heading up the mirroring effort.
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12:49 < Bluelive> no need to use dns rr and such, you can specify a list of mirrors in the .asx file, you might want to rr that list though
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12:51 < jwiv> Blue, that's what he's working on i believe
12:52 < mariab> wii firew
12:52 <@NACAlex> mrpants won't reply to my msg; can you poke him to msg me
12:52 < mariab> oops, I'll be needing a /
12:53 < X15> NACA i'd wait till he gets it all going
12:53 < torg> [11:55:13 AM] <MrPants> anybody interested in assisting with cam or web infrastructure, join #interdictor-it please
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12:54 < trizzo> NACALEX
12:54 < trizzo> HI NACALEX
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12:55 < MrPants> ok
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12:55 < Sandoz> ok
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12:56 < silas> we need a darwin streaming server up
12:56 < silas> also what is up with the wiki?
12:56 < torg> wiki is back up, but static.
12:56 < silas> still can't get it
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12:56 -!- Eimann changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | We need Darwin Streaming Server users to help out setting up DSS to relay wmv-streams.
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12:57 < torg> I can get in silas.
12:57 <@MrPants> i'll have a darwin mirror up in about ten minutes.
12:57 < WeyrNet-James> Let me know what to do, how to set up DSS, and I'll cough up another 20mbit
12:57 < torg> http://www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
12:57 < silas> UMM must be me then
12:57 < torg> Use that link.
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12:57 < silas> I get it now
12:57 < silas> I'm going to setup a linux box for DSS
12:58 <@NACAlex> -it is moderated, with only one op, who doesn't seem to be present ;)
12:58 < trizzo> Hi Alex!
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12:58 <@NACAlex> trizo
12:58 < trizzo> y0e
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12:58 <@NACAlex> whats up
12:58 < torg> Alex, topic says false alarm, come here.
12:58 <@NACAlex> heh
12:58 <@NACAlex> ok
12:58 < trizzo> nada
12:58 <@NACAlex> i am here
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12:59 <@NACAlex> mrpants
12:59 <@NACAlex> we got two servers coming up for you momentarily
12:59 <@MrPants> ok
12:59 <@NACAlex> one centos, one w2k3
13:00 <@Eimann> very good :)
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13:00 < icculus> I've got a Fedora-based server with about 1500 gigabytes of bandwidth that's paid for an won't otherwise be used; is there any mirroring I can do for you guys?
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13:01 < Lodion> hmm i work at an ISP in australia, can provide a bunch of static hosting
13:01 <@MrPants> icculus: download darwin server and install it.
13:01 < icculus> MrPants: Looking into it right now.
13:01 <@MrPants> http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:01 <@NACAlex> 1500 gbytes = about 4 mbits/sec on average for a month
13:01 <@MrPants> the redhat 9 installer ought to work on fedora jsut fine
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13:01 <@NACAlex> fyi, the stream server's are hitting 100 mbits/sec
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13:02 < Lodion> what bitrate are the streams?
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13:02 < trizzo> nac: no shit?
13:02 <@NACAlex> http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/08/30/national/evac.184.1.650.jpg
13:02 < trizzo> put that box on gig PLZ
13:02 < JaySuds> Does Darwin work on Win2K3?
13:02 <@MrPants> i belive the stream is 300kbit
13:02 -!- Eimann changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | We need Darwin Streaming Server users to help out setting up DSS to relay wmv-streams. | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:02 <@MrPants> which is really too much
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13:02 < doofoo> actually it's the pictures that are making it hit 100mbit/s
13:02 < doofoo> ;)
13:02 < Lodion> yeah thats huge
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13:02 < mxhess> no kidding 300Kb is way too myuch for a webcam
13:02 < doofoo> oh the video
13:02 < doofoo> video is using that too.. lol
13:03 < WeyrNet-James> What do I want, the server, or the proxy?
13:03 <@Eimann> We're at around 200-300mbit/s
13:03 < doofoo> pictures are maxing at 100mbit over here
13:03 < Starblazer> the pics are huge too
13:03 < doofoo> yup
13:03 < Lodion> gah gotta register with appl eto grab DSS
13:03 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o doofoo] by mathx
13:04 < Starblazer> if i only could figure out how to directly re-stream off the cam, i'd dedicate my win2k swerver
13:04 < tolkachi> someone post registration info
13:04 < nouv> for pictures, one suggestion is to cache them
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13:04 <@MrPants> just a second
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13:04 < nouv> there are a couple of free caching service we can use
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13:04  * jnagro waves
13:04 <@doofoo> such as what?
13:04 < mxhess> so.. for darwin.. server or proxy?
13:04 < silas> DSS works with 2k3
13:04 <@doofoo> that will cache 1.2gb?
13:04 < jnagro> i can offer a server up if it helps
13:04 <@doofoo> and 100mbit/s
13:04 <@Eimann> mxhess: proxy, i think
13:04 <@doofoo> ++
13:04 < Starblazer> 2k3?
13:04 < mxhess> k
13:04 < Starblazer> it's a 2000 box
13:04 < silas> DSS works with 2k3
13:04 <@MrPants> http://www.tacular.com/katrina/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Linux.tar.gz
13:04 < jnagro> 100mbit connection, freebsd, 2.4ghz, gig of ram
13:04 < Lodion> cheers
13:04 < jnagro> top level providers
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13:04 <@MrPants> that's the redhat 9 installer
13:05 < Lodion> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
13:05 < nouv> let me pull it up
13:05 < jnagro> is there anything i can do to help?
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13:05 < nouv> wow, is /. down?
13:05 < spydum> no.. ?
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13:05 < jwiv> Setup a darwin connection jnagro
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13:05 < spydum> it was up a sec ago
13:05 < theagent> are we on the video stuff?
13:05 < jnagro> jwiv: will do
13:05 < Bluelive> /. seems unreachable
13:05 < Lodion> seems to be
13:05 < spydum> now it seems to be dead.. wow
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13:05 < nouv> yea damn
13:05 < spydum> just happened within a minute or two
13:05 < theagent> Darwin is the way to do this quickly
13:05 < nouv> hahahahahaha
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13:05 < Bluelive> first for me :)
13:05 < jnagro> any docs on how to connect?
13:05 < Lodion> next thing you know google will be down :P
13:06 < jnagro> can i mirror docs?
13:06 < nouv> it's been a while since it's down
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13:06 < nouv> back up now
13:06 < ratman2> anyone know what happened to the scanner feed?
13:06 < Starblazer> which one?
13:06 <@doofoo> my scanner feed is up
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13:06 < ratman2> Baton rouge
13:06 < Starblazer> there was one that looped morse code
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13:06 < Lodion> MrPants that url gives a 403
13:06 <@doofoo> http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema up
13:06 < spydum> the windows media streams need more mirrors eh.. need to get a windows media server up to stream from the original MMS feed
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13:06 < Houston> ok is this where we go to help setting up video stream mirrors?
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13:07 < theagent> ues
13:07 < theagent> yes
13:07 <@doofoo> lol it was.. 
13:07 <@doofoo> dropped it's feed
13:07 < jnagro> i'd like to toss up a howto page, do we have any docs?
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13:07 < jnagro> someone msg me with instructions and i can have a page up
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13:07 < mxhess> http://nola-intel.org:8003/astro lost feed
13:07 < Kremit> doofoo: I seem to be having trouble with that feed, I am mirroring it and it keeps cutting out... is that the source feed or should I be mirroring another address?
13:07 < Starblazer> Sollord, would darwin mirror the video feed?
13:07 < Houston> Gist of it is have one small stream from your source
13:07 < trizzo> i wish we used standard ports for these feeds, my corp firewall is knocking them down!
13:07 < mxhess> http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema - 404 stream not found
13:07 < Houston> then pull that from window smedia server
13:07 <@doofoo> kremit: the source is dropping
13:07 <@doofoo> not my feed
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13:07 < trizzo> can we use 80 or 8000 or 8080 plz!
13:07 < theagent> darwin will mirror without issue
13:07 < Kremit> doofoo: ok, thanks
13:07 < Starblazer> k
13:07 <@doofoo> we do not list the source, because we don't want it overloaded
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13:07 <@doofoo> which it seems to be doing.
13:08 < Kremit> yea I understand that
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13:08 <@doofoo> back up
13:08 < MaxieZ> Well if we don't have a source what can we mirror?
13:08 <@doofoo> Baton Rouge
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13:08 < trizzo> url to video feed plz
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13:08 < X15> You will get a source guys! Be patient for now!
13:08 < nouv> who's handling the website for the pictures?
13:08 < theagent> only mirrors will have feed
13:08 < nouv> i found the caching service
13:08 < Houston> you have Windows Media Services installed?
13:08 < MaxieZ> Sure thing.  If patience is needed
13:08 <@doofoo> i have the web pics
13:08 < jnagro> someone msg me with instructions and i can have a howto page up
13:09 < Houston> give me a sec to put it together
13:09 < Houston> a howto
13:09 < Starblazer> I can either do WMS or Darwin
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13:09 <@doofoo> brb.. stepping out for a min
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13:09 < Starblazer> i'd rather use darwin for the WMS stream
13:09 < MaxieZ> I'm with natnet.  I'm going to mirror when I get a location.  FWIW
13:09 < shanes> hey, anyone in here proficient in Darwin/BSD feel like helping one of the business in Poydras Center move their data?  I'm really swamped dealing with directNIC right now and can't help him
13:09 < klaude> I'll set up a mirror. I have a freebsd server on a 100mbit connection not doing much atm.
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13:09 < tolkachi> **Apple DevGroup Login: Nola-intel Pw: nolaintel
13:09 < mxhess> I work with OpenBSD
13:09 < icculus> http://treefort.icculus.org/interdictor/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Linux.tar.gz  <-- here's the red hat DSS package, the url above was a 403
13:09 < Starblazer> i'm a linux / gentoo guy
13:10 < Lodion> thanks icculus
13:10 < X15> Anyone that wants to provide a mirror setup Darwin or WMS on your box, you will get a feed where were ready for you
13:10 < theagent> Darwin kicks butt for doing this kind of stuff
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13:10 < Bluelive> only make a handfull of lvl 1 mirrors
13:10 < WeyrNet-James> I'm downloading Darwin now
13:10 < Bluelive> let others mirror that
13:10 < Starblazer> same
13:10 < theagent> yeah... do like 5 to 10 seed feeds
13:10 < jwiv> X15, what level of connection are we talking about required for this?
13:10 < spydum> yep, need a real hierarchy of feeds
13:10 <@Nac-paradox> OC-48
13:10 < Houston> x15 I can have it up in a sec
13:11 <@NACAlex> this will eat 100 mb/s without thinking about it
13:11 < jnagro> we need docs, instructions, i can make a static page
13:11 < shanes> it's basically just tarring/ftping drives for him.. 
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13:11 < jnagro> msg me with an outline, i can have a staic page up
13:11 < Houston> x15: or 2 :)
13:11 < shanes> his icq is 305451910
13:11 < shanes> thanks in advance
13:11 <@MrPants> ok
13:11 < trizzo> NACAlex : whats the url to the stream?
13:11 < silas> does DSS even allow you to relay WMS stuff?
13:11 <@NACAlex> funny, i don't know
13:12 < trizzo> gimme url to graphs! ;-)
13:12 < nouv> anyone here at google?
13:12 < Knobee> we need akamai to help out.
13:12 <@Nac-paradox> heh
13:12 <@Nac-paradox> akamai
13:12 < theagent> I'm waiting to hear from VitalStream here on the West Coast.
13:12 < X15> You will all get a stream when it's ready, for now just get ready for it
13:12 <@NACAlex> akamai is already
13:12 < theagent> its all they freaking do, media streaming
13:12 < Houston> X15: Am ready for the stream to start mirroring
13:12 < Knobee> oh.. hi Alex.  8-)
13:12 < X15> They do more
13:13 < X15> Good, now wait till we are
13:13 < jnagro> i would like to help, what can i mirror?
13:13 < Eggatwork> x15 what server software 
13:13 < Houston> X15: nm just looked up / am ready
13:13 < nouv> NACAlex: are they caching the pictures now?
13:13 < jnagro> instructions? photos? streams?
13:13 < Bluelive> seriously need a european mirror ;)
13:13 < X15> Darwin or WMS
13:13 < trizzo> • Police sergeant says many officers drowned on the job
13:13 < trizzo> • Officer spots bodies riddled by bullets; man's head shot off
13:13 < trizzo> ouch
13:13 <@NACAlex> how do you think cnn and foxnews haven't died?
13:13 < jnagro> trizzo: where did you hear that?
13:13 <@Eimann> We need also a declarition which server is where located so that European User don'T connect to the .us server and .us user not to the european server
13:13 < Starblazer> same here, have darwin installed
13:13 < nouv> oh i just assumed they were already signed up with akamai :)
13:13 < nouv> i mean if a small company like us is using akamai
13:13 < nouv> heh
13:14 < shanes> fyi, i have the volumes he really needs already gzipped up in the large volume
13:14 < X15> Who needs akamai when we have all you guys?
13:14 < nouv> i was thinking in the context of interdictor
13:14 < nouv> are you with akamai?
13:14 < X15> no
13:14 <@Eimann> I mailed akamai
13:14 < theagent> I call VitalStream
13:14 < MaxieZ> Well someone should make a nice asx file with all the feeds and serv that instead
13:14 <@Eimann> I'm in touch with them already, but it takes a while to get an ok
13:14 < X15> That's what were doing maxoe
13:14 < ratman2> guys, so we have a scanner feed I can relay that is up?
13:14 < WeyrNet-James> Darwin installed
13:15 < ratman2> do
13:15 < MaxieZ> Then yeah who needs akamai
13:15 < zotted> all of the traffic on the intercontinental links is going to break the intarweb
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13:15 < Bluelive> nah, pingtimes are only slighty above normal
13:16 < Mrdini> out of interest, would 400GB bandwidth help? (Dreamhost here)
13:16 < nouv> it'd be helpful if akamai can cache the notal-intel.org pictures
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13:16 < Bluelive> 400gb or 400gb/s ?
13:16 < torg> I think they have all the bandwidth they need.
13:16 < Houston> Ya bandwidht isnt an issue
13:16 < Mrdini> blue, 400Gb - not sure how  much per sec
13:16 < Houston> I was told it was lakcing enough people that knew how to do it
13:16 < kveton> those pics are dog slow
13:16 < Mrdini> I mean for Darwin
13:16 <@NACAlex> thats about 1 mb/s on average for a month
13:16 < jnagro> ic an cche em
13:16 < kveton> it'd be pretty easy to throw a squid cache in front of that
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13:16 < jnagro> i can cache them
13:16 <@Eimann> ise http://mirrors.rrbone.net/ for pictures
13:16 <@MrPants> i have another mirror of the nola-intel pictures up here: http://www.tacular.com/katrina/
13:16 < nouv> houston: what do you mean?
13:16 < Houston> <-- can set up WMS no prob
13:17 < Bluelive> vid feeds take gb/s a sec with a few dozen k viewers
13:17 <@MrPants> they're reindexed, but it's all 500mb+ of the pics
13:17 < jnagro> msg me if i can toss up a mirror
13:17 < Mrdini> (I have access to darwin streaming, so can serve up 400gb if needed)
13:17 < Houston> I was sent to this channel and was told bandwidth wasnt an issue
13:17 < Houston> Was told they neede people who knew how to set up Video Stream Mirros
13:17 <@Eimann> wah, where the hell is this fscking admin interface of dss? which portnumber?
13:17 < Houston> And I know that
13:17 <@NACAlex> yes, that is true
13:17 < WeyrNet-James> Eimann: 1220
13:17 <@NACAlex> we have two servers coming up here in the next couple minutes
13:17 <@Eimann> WeyrNet-James: thx
13:17 <@NACAlex> and will need help setting up the streams.
13:17 < Houston> But I think we are waiting on a stream from X15 so we can all start mirroring it
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13:17  * Etcetera would like to help mirror as well
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13:17 < X15> From Pants actually, i'm just keeping you guys in line
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13:18 < Etcetera> 100Mbits out of our data centers...
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13:18 < cshields> hey guys..  trying to mirror the pics here (for http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub with 400mb free).  which source should I use?
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13:18 < Ripside> anyone have information about setting up a mirror?
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13:18 < Ripside> for the cam feed?
13:18 < Houston> I'll open up a Teamspeak server and talk anyone through setting up a WMS server
13:18 < dniq> Hi everyone! I have 100 megabit connection to the internet and can host a mirror for your feeds for at least a couple of days.
13:18 < Ripside> I also have a 100Mbps connection
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13:18 < jebba> anyone have a sample DSS config? I have DSS available on linux boxes and 2x 100MBit pipes
13:18 < dniq> Can also mirror some other stuff
13:18 < halogen8> looking for a cam link to watch
13:18 < cshields> (for the nola-intel.org/pictures site)
13:18 <@Eimann> WeyrNet-James: I've started it with `DarwinStreamingServer` - but theres no port open like 1220
13:18 < X15> dniq: setup Darwin streaming or WMS
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13:18 < djs> hey, any chance i can help mirror?
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13:18 < jnagro> i would like to offer a 100mbit mirror
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13:18 < jnagro> images, whatever
13:18 < WeyrNet-James> Eimann: Linux?
13:18 < jnagro> please lemme know what i can do
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13:18 < dniq> Linux/Apache
13:18 <@Eimann> WeyrNet-James: Jep, Debian
13:19 < dniq> Mandrake here
13:19 < jnagro> freebsd here
13:19 < Ripside> Linux/APache here also
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13:19 < Houston> Teamspeak server for talking about setting up WMS : http://matrixreport.com user:Anonymous pass:machines1
13:19 < Ripside> Centos
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13:19 < X15> Anyone that wans to mirror should setup Darwin Streaming Server or WMS and wait for a feed
13:19 < dniq> I also have some pretty powerful load balancing here
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13:19 < WeyrNet-James> Eimann: You should've done ./Install, and then once it'd gone through asking you for a username and password, it should've started automagically
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13:19 < Alex_NYC> are mirrors up yet?
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13:19 < X15> no
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13:19 < WeyrNet-James> X15: I'm waiting :)
13:19  * rknepper maybe able to offer some streaming mirroring from QTSS or WMS
13:19 < Starblazer> F
13:19 <@Eimann> WeyrNet-James: Will check again, one moment please ;)
13:19 < Starblazer> Streaming Server done starting up
13:19 < Starblazer> FATAL: Error switching to group qtss: Success
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13:20 < Mrdini> X15, as I remarked - is 400GB available worth me volunteering for DSS stream?
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13:20 < Mrdini> or too little?
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13:20 < X15> I don't think so
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13:20 < X15> Not if that's per month
13:20 < Starblazer> 400GB a month is worthless
13:20 <@NACAlex> 400 gb is unfortunately not enough
13:20 < djs> anything available for a windows host?
13:20 < bwheatley> What do i have to install to get a mirror setup for this host? DSS?
13:20 < Mrdini> ok, in that case, I'll pass
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13:20 <@doofoo> yeah if that is per month no way
13:20 < X15> bwheatley: yes
13:20 <@doofoo> i am hosting just pictures
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13:20 < mxhess> 20Mb/s worthless?
13:20 <@doofoo> and i've used over 400gb so far
13:20 < theagent> lets setup a Gizmo partyline for the discussion... 
13:20 <@doofoo> lol
13:20 < |ynchmob> http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar  Darwin Source
13:20 <@doofoo> i am using 100Mbit/s just hosting the pictures
13:21 < trizzo> SKYPE PARTYLINE!
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13:21 < icculus> Do we have a feed for DSS yet, or still waiting?
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13:21 < roo9> good morning
13:21 < bwheatley> gotcha installing across all 8 servers now
13:21 <@doofoo> and static page on http://www.nola-intel.org 100mb/s
13:21 <@MrPants> doofoo: which mirror are you running?
13:21 < jebba> |ynchmob, do you have a DSS config? linux box here
13:21 <@doofoo> i run the nola-intel.org
13:21 <@MrPants> ok
13:21 < sosumi> server available for mirror if needed
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13:21 < |ynchmob> no, just now untaring it
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13:21 <@MrPants> i have everything mirrored at http://www.tacular.com/katrina/
13:21 <@NACAlex> the one box doing streams and pics in our center is doing about 1.5 gigaBYTES per 2 minutes.
13:21 < theagent> anyone in Europe available for mirroring webcam?
13:21 < dniq> OK, installed DSS
13:21 < DJTachyon> argh i cant connec to any stream
13:21 < MaxieZ> Let's put the status in the topic
13:21 < torg> holy shit, that's a lot of traffic.
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13:22 <@MrPants> re-indexed, but all three galleries are there. if you want to link to it go right ahead
13:22 < Lodion> ok i have DSS setup, can stream for end users only though
13:22 <@doofoo> NACalex: yup.. i tried msging you to thank you again. :)
13:22 < SR3> doofoo - i don't have the technical prowess to setup a video mirror but i can host whatever else. whatcha guys need mirrored?
13:22 < djs> anythign for windows out therE?
13:22 <@NACAlex> no thanking needed :)
13:22 <@doofoo> it's doing streams + pics + running open domain service.. lol
13:22 < plus> hrm
13:22 < kveton> NACAlex: why not have people do caching out in front of the pics?
13:22 < DJTachyon> whats the best mirror right now for a decent cam stream?
13:22 < plus> is there any way i can just setup a private stream?
13:22 < icculus> jebba: Untar it, run "Install", it'll dump some files into your filesystem, so take note. Make a login name for it (it's part of /etc/passwd, it's unique to DSS), then connect with HTTP to port 1220 on your server to finish setup.)
13:22 < kveton> but still use you as the source?
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13:22 < nouv> is the main blog maintainer in this chat channel?
13:22 < kveton> all of the mirrors won't keep up if they aren't automated
13:22 < theagent> no cam streams yet
13:22 < X15> No nouv
13:22 < Houston> Anyone who need help setting up a Windows Media Server Mirror Skype me john_h3653
13:22 <@NACAlex> i don't have a problem with that, but we have other servers coming up to supplement.
13:22 < icculus> jebba: er...it's NOT part of /etc/passwd, I mean
13:22 < jebba> icculus, I have it installed fine
13:22 <@doofoo> yeah we are going to split the pictures up
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13:22 < jebba> just need config pointers
13:22 < plus> i dont have the bandwith to run a public, but there's people on my campus that would be willing to watch a local/private
13:22 < iapx8088> what about something to permit people to signal they are fine with their cellphones. I guess the idea has already been thrown in.
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13:23 <@doofoo> pictures1 and pictures2 on another server in a few.
13:23 < nouv> i'm not sure who he's communicating to, but it'd be good to change the picture links on his page to a mirror list
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13:23 <@doofoo> it can handle it fine.
13:23 < mxhess> 1.5 gigabytes every 2 mins ~= 100Mb/s right?
13:23 < Lodion> anyone have a stream source for me to relay? at least to test?
13:23 < X15> nouv he'll get the word when were setup
13:23 < nouv> ah
13:23 < spydum> yes 1.5gB/2min == 100mbit even
13:23 < nouv> ok
13:23 < theagent> someone needs to take the existing cam link down off the wiki and blog while this gets rejiggered
13:23 <@Eimann> WeyrNet-James: Can i bind it to an ip? It's listening on all of my ip's on this box :-/
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13:23 <@doofoo> 1000 req/second
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13:23 <@doofoo> to the picture page
13:24 < djs> is theere anything at all i can do with a windows host?
13:24 < Eggatwork> doofoo what gallery software is that
13:24 < torg> damn doofoo, nice mirroring.
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13:24 < jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ picture mirror going up
13:24 <@doofoo> no gallery, just mirroed
13:24 < WeyrNet-James> Not a clue, Eimann.
13:24 < WeyrNet-James> Not a clue
13:24 < Houston> djs: yeah... WMS
13:24 <@Eimann> WeyrNet-James: ok
13:24 < bwheatley> Ok i'm also going to try and get darwin up on my 16 servers in NAP of america in miami
13:24 <@NACAlex> it's moved 177 Gbytes since midnight.
13:24 < djs> where do i get WMS?
13:24 < cshields> jnagro: do you have it all yet?
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13:24 < Houston> What windwos server u have?  2k3?
13:24 <@NACAlex> something to be noted:
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13:25 <@NACAlex> all of you mirroring the site could be creating more traffic than the actual users looking at the pics
13:25 < jnagro> cshields: its comming down now, very fast
13:25 -!- X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:25 < Houston> Check Microsoft's site to download (or IIRC it is part of add/remove windows components)
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13:25 < bwheatley> anyone know a way i can help mirror the scanner feeds too?
13:25 < jnagro> NACAlex: have people mirror off me
13:25 < sodatrain> has putting ads on the pics/mirrors to raise money for donation been ruled out?
13:25 < jwiv> Video streaming is currently being established using Darwin Streaming Server(DSS).  If you would like to establish a video mirror and have a 100Mb/s connection or greater, please feel free to offer.  The main feeds are still being established and will be announced shortly. 
13:25 <@NACAlex> you say that like I have control of this :)
13:25 < jnagro> cshields: have people mirror off me
13:25 < SR3> jnagro - link
13:25 < cshields> jnagro: yeah, I'll pull them from you
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13:25 < djs> ye si have windwos 2k3
13:25 <@doofoo> yeah it would be great if people didn't mirror me.
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13:25 < theagent> DSS could do audio streams also
13:25 < jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:25 <@doofoo> it's eating up bw like crazy
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13:25 < jnagro> its comming down now
13:25 < Houston> skype me ill talk u through it
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13:26 < jnagro> mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
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13:26 < JrM|nt> you guys looking for mirror sites?
13:26 < HuweyII> Yea what do you need?
13:26 <@X15> See the topic
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13:27 < royb> i only have 512k up :(
13:27 < twovryl> errr, is there a list of mirors anywhere?
13:27 < JrM|nt> i've got two OC3's
13:27 < MrSlinkyman> how much bandwidth is needed?
13:27 < DJTachyon> what mirrors are most availible right now?
13:27 < a36> are there any active mirrors that aren't overloaded?
13:27 < royb> i have an oc3
13:27 < royb> but it's telco
13:27 < royb> not data. :p
13:27 < torg> 100mbit+ is requested for video mirrors
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13:27 < Houston> lol if we arent careful we are gonna have guys mirroring mirrors
13:27 <@NACAlex> ok
13:27 <@NACAlex> mirror from here
13:27 <@NACAlex> http://www.nola-intel.org/
13:27 <@X15> JrM|nt: Setup DSS or WMS, we can use you!
13:28 < Houston> not neciesadrrily a bad thing
13:28 < Bluelive> mirroring mirrors is perfectly ok
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13:28 < cshields> nola-intel needs to setup a private rsync for the /pictures/
13:28 < DJTachyon> need dedicated mirrors and take public access away from the source
13:28 < jnagro> mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:28 < bootnet> I've got 100mbits that can be used for mirroring pics(setting it up now) and windows media streaming
13:28 < HuweyII> Do you have a mirror for WMS?
13:28 < HuweyII> er not mirror URL
13:28 < theagent> limited access to source is what is needed
13:28 < royb> we shouldn't mirror mirrors more than 2 deep, though.
13:28 < HuweyII> do you have a URL for wms
13:28 <@X15> If we do this right we can completly unload the source guys, they only have one OC3
13:28 < Bluelive> any of the video mirroring actually working ?
13:28 < Mrdini> any DSS mirrors up & running yet....?
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13:28 <@X15> No mirros yet!
13:28 < Etcetera> trying to get DSS up on Fedora... any pointers?
13:28 < cshields> jnagro: getting a ton of 404s from you
13:28 < Etcetera> the docs seem not too useful
13:28 < MaxieZ> X15: Put that in the topic
13:29 < theagent> someone throw up a test source from outside we can all test with.... 
13:29 < mmead> can DSS limit bandwidth?
13:29 < MrSlinkyman> what do we need to do to mirror?
13:29 < jnagro> cshields: damnit
13:29 < Ripside> anyone know how to configure darwin to mirror this baby?
13:29 < jebba> Etcetera, I have SRPMS/RPMS available for Fedora Core. I don't have  a sample config yet though.
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13:29 < royb> i can test all you need
13:29 < royb> just pm me
13:29 < Ripside> perhaps a separate channel for mirror-config?
13:29 < kveton> anybody got a listing of all of these mirrors?
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13:29 < MaxieZ> WMS or DSS
13:29 < icculus> mmead: yes
13:29 < Lodion> Etcetera i found the installer didnt create the qtss group, so you may need to do that manually
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13:29 < kveton> we should probably get these up on nola-intel.org
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13:29 < Etcetera> k
13:29 < bootnet> need config for WMS mirror
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13:29 -!- X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO MIRRORS YET | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:29 < Etcetera> jebba: could you send a link?
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13:29 < nouv> i think one team is focused on mirroring the stream
13:29 < icculus> Etcetera: Untar it, run "Install", it'll dump some files into your filesystem, so take note. Make a login name for it (it's not part of /etc/passwd, it's unique to DSS), then connect with HTTP to port 1220 on your server to finish setup.
13:30 < nouv> what team is focused on mirroring the site?
13:30 < icculus> Etcetera: jebba will have more than that soon, I think
13:30 < Etcetera> k.. thanks
13:30 < Ripside> you say "wait for a stream".  What's the main stream to connect to?
13:30 < mmead> icculus: thanks
13:30 < mmead> I'm setting up DSS on FreeBSD
13:30 < DJTachyon> who's mirror has open bandwidth for the cam stream?
13:30 < nouv> or is the biggest problem the video stream?
13:30 < HuweyII> I can't find a URL for WMS, google reports a million hits.  We need something that will run on Solaris.
13:30 < theagent> someone put up and outside NO video stream for testing
13:30 <@X15> We will be setting up a master mirror for everyone
13:30 < jebba> Etcetera, see ftp.blagblagblag.org   (I have for FC2/3 right now, building RPMS for FC4 at the moment)
13:30 < Houston> Ripside: AFIK We don't have a video stream to mirror yet
13:30 < jwiv> Cam Stream mirror is still being worke don. 
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13:30 < djs> WMS is a "role" in server 2k3
13:31 < jono__> can mirror feeds
13:31 < jono__> lot
13:31 < mmead> I can offer 3Mbit - what's the feed running at?
13:31 < jono__> lot's of pipe
13:31 < Houston> if you have 2k3 sp1 you will have it
13:31 < theagent> someone just source a cam that isn't at DirectNIC... just for testing purpose
13:31 < HuweyII> hmm we can't do that here either, no 2k3 boxes
13:31 <@X15> 3mbit isn't even worth it at this point
13:31 < jwiv> nmead, 100Mb/s is about what the video and etc are at
13:31 < HuweyII> How about a web mirror?  We can set that up in almost no time, web servers waiting.
13:31 < mmead> X15: ok, doh
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13:31 < djs> i have a 2k3 box that i am settin gup WMS on
13:32 < mmead> jwiv: is it going raw out to the mirrors?
13:32 < jono__> I've got GIG, someone has instructions?
13:32 < Eggatwork> perhaps put "100mbit+" in topic heh
13:32 < MaxieZ> heh
13:32 < Etcetera> hmm.. not seeing it in there jebba, where in pub is it located?
13:32 < mmead> Eggatwork: good idea :)
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13:32 < Bluelive> who is coordinating this mirror efford ?
13:32 < bwheatley> Ok almost done with my apple id :) and download LOL. had to use the can
13:32 < Bluelive> we need to collect al list of working mirrors
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13:32 < PhiRatE> Am trying
13:32 < theagent> we have 2 different mirror efforts going on
13:32 < jgrafton> are there any streaming servers that run in linux?  (sorry if this has already been asked)
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13:32 < theagent> one for pics and one for webcam
13:32 < PhiRatE> post if you have a mirror, I'm collecting quietly
13:32 < Houston> X15 is in charge (i think :) )
13:32 < JrM|nt> jgrafton:  http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:32 -!- X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:32 < nouv> I believe the mirrors that we need right now are for streams, not website.
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13:33 < HuweyII> OK nouv
13:33 < |ynchmob> bwheatley - http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
13:33 < |ynchmob> or whoever
13:33 < theagent> please specify which mirrors you're inquiring about
13:33 < |ynchmob> that way no apple id needed
13:33 <@X15> MrPants is in charge, i'm running the chan
13:33 < jgrafton> ah, that runs on non-mac too?  well then.
13:33 < ratman2> I do Jgrafton
13:33 < fr4nk> what kind of throughput are the stream servers doing?
13:33 < theagent> DSS runs across the board
13:33 < Ripside> I have both CentOS and 2K3 boxes, trying to setup on both.
13:33 < JrM|nt> jgrafton runs on mac, windows and linux
13:33 < bwheatley> thanks lynchmob
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13:33 < jgrafton> hm.  interesting.
13:33 < |ynchmob> welcome
13:33 < jwiv> fr4nk - for video 100Mb/s 
13:33 < spstarr_work> We need instructions on WiKi for streaming feed on Linux
13:34 < theagent> DSS is a solid streaming server
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13:34 < jono__> are there instructions for mirroring the video v feed
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13:34 < PhiRatE> What's the url for the wiki?
13:34 <@speakit> re
13:34 < nouv> spstarr_work:  it's on the apple site
13:34 < jono__> http://www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
13:34 < theagent> we have to limit access to the source feed.  Need to be careful what we put on the wiki
13:34 < spstarr_work> Darwin != Linux 
13:34 < torg> phirate:  www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
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13:34 < jebba> Etcetera, pub/BLAG/linux/[20000] | [30000]/en/os/i386/BLAG/RPMS.extras/
13:34 < jnagro> cshields: mirror is working, downloading now
13:34 < jwiv> spstarr_work There's source code to compile it and install for linux
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13:35 < fr4nk> jwiv yes but how much bandwidth is being used like over say 12 hours
13:35 < spstarr_work> ok so it builds for Linux good.
13:35 < jnagro> cshields: willl et you know when its all down, have people mirror off this, it will be stable and fast
13:35 < Etcetera> cool.. thx
13:35 <@X15> The source feed will be chainging and restricted to mirros only
13:35 < PhiRatE> torg: Thanks
13:35 < spstarr_work> jwiv: we should put instructions up on how to build/install 
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13:35 < jono__> yes, instructions
13:35 < theagent> wow this could become the fastest/largest DSS system in the world
13:35 < cshields> jnagro: we're just pulling from the source
13:35  * spstarr_work tries to build it
13:35 < theagent> someone call Apple
13:35 <@Eimann> anyone got a working relayconfig.xml?
13:35 < cshields> can offer it when it's up
13:35 <@X15> Write instructions, put them on the web and i'll put them in the topic
13:35 < Bluelive> limit the lvl1 stream mirrors to a handfull if possible
13:35 < jnagro> i have offered to put up instructs
13:35 < jgrafton> is DSS better than VLC?
13:35 < spstarr_work> http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar <-? ok compiling......
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13:36 < Houston> People still looking for a test video stream?
13:36 -!- ysothoth [n=ysothoth@232.sub-70-192-48.myvzw.com] has joined #interdictor-tech
13:36 < Houston> If so I'll get one up for testing
13:36 < nouv> theagent: about what?
13:36 < PhiRatE> Just collecting: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
13:36 < PhiRatE> Houston: if you do, lemme know the url?
13:36 < theagent> nouv, largest/quickest adhoc DSS system
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13:36 < theagent> you can actually reflect a DSS stream with VLC
13:37 < |ynchmob> before running ./Install I had to run ./Buildit (on slackware 10)
13:37 < djs> i have WMS installed, now what?
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13:37 < bwheatley> lyea i'm building now
13:37 < torg> djs, wait for further instructions on what to point your DSS at.
13:37 < jwiv> fr4nk, you'd have to ask the nac guys really, as they've been handling a lotof it up to this point.
13:37 < torg> WMS rather.
13:37 -!- X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | READ ME: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
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13:37 < spstarr_work> yes you can with VLC
13:37 < {dm}> Pardon me, anyone know what scanner would be good to get a rebroadcast of the Adome stream up easy?
13:37 < djs> kk
13:38 <@X15> scanner?
13:38 < fr4nk> wait thats being hosted on nac?
13:38 <@X15> are in houston?
13:38 < jono__> FreeBSD: biggins# cd /usr/ports/net/DarwinStreamingServer/
13:38 < jono__> biggins# make install
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13:38 < KuDeTA> can u guys change the message on the site
13:38 < KuDeTA> it says
13:38 < Ripside> I can't untar it - says obsolescent base-64 headers.  crap
13:38 < KuDeTA> "we need no help with streaming"
13:38 < KuDeTA> when acctually
13:38 < KuDeTA> u do
13:38 < {dm}> Kud, there is no more stream for the AStrodome
13:38 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o jebba] by speakit
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13:39 <@Yog-home> hrm.. wonder if gentoo has that
13:39 < KuDeTA> np
13:39 < {dm}> I was going to buy a scanner to put out a stream so someone can dish it back out
13:39 < KuDeTA> i was refering to the video
13:39 <@X15> {dm}: Are you in Houston?
13:39 < {dm}> Yes
13:39 <@X15> one sec
13:39 -!- laotan [n=jesse@H38.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #interdictor-tech
13:39 < jono__> who has an apple login?
13:39 -!- vthornton [i=vthornto@67.131.67.114] has joined #interdictor-tech
13:39 < jono__> to get source?
13:39 < fr4nk> thee free
13:39 < mmead> http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
13:39 < jnagro> mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:39 < fr4nk> make one
13:39 <@NACAlex> frank
13:39 < theagent> nola-intel:nolaintel
13:39 < jono__> mmead: thanks
13:39 < fr4nk> that works
13:40 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o laotan] by mathx
13:40 < fr4nk> NACAlex yes?
13:40 <@NACAlex> the servers here have used 100+ gbytes in the last 12 hours
13:40 < jnagro> save bandwidth mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:40 <@NACAlex> and are now at about 1.5 gbytes per 2 minutes
13:40 <@NACAlex> and as soon as we get the other servers up, i expect that to at least triple
13:40 < KuDeTA> video is what the people want
13:40 < KuDeTA> :)
13:40 < jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:40 -!- inter018 [n=0c0a0802@athena.crschmidt.net] has quit [Client Quit]
13:40 < KuDeTA> thats what we should all be fixing
13:40 < mmead> too bad multicast is not usable :(
13:40 < theagent> someone pull down the cam link from the wiki and blog
13:40 < asmith> Alex it is great that you are helping out.
13:40 <@X15> [10:09] <tolkachi> **Apple DevGroup Login: Nola-intel Pw: nolaintel
13:40 < JrM|nt> jnagro: what are you using to build your photo mirror, we can mirror off you
13:40 <@mathx>  I HAVE TO GET GOING SOON, *BUT* we are getting a *10GBPS* link from NAC for the picture mirroring.
13:40 <@mathx>  Talk to doofoo about it. h e's working on it.
13:40 < mmead> anyone have a canned wget cmd line to grab pics?
13:41 < PhiRatE> photo mirror link in faq
13:41 < Alex_NYC> jnagro can you mirror the latest pics
13:41 < jnagro>  wget --mirror -p --convert-links http://pictures.nola-intel.org/
13:41 < jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:41 < mmead> jnagro: thx
13:41 <@X15> dm: goto http://www.radioreference.com/
13:41 <@mathx>  GUYS PLEASE DONT GET THE PICTURES SERVER
13:41 <@mathx>  its' already locked at 100MBPS
13:41 < jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:41 < theagent> who's handling the DNS round robins for all this?
13:41 <@mathx>  please use jnagro's
13:41 <@X15> no rr
13:41 <@mathx>  doofoo is dns
13:41 <@MrPants> i have a separate mirror as well
13:41 <@X15> ASX file
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13:41 < bwheatley> ok i've got DSS instaleld anyone have an HTML doc for DSS so i know what to do now :) 
13:41 <@mathx>  ill get doofoo in here soon
13:41 <@MrPants> if anybody wants a tarball of picures:
13:41 < Alex_NYC> there are new pics that need to be mirrored
13:41 <@X15> MrPants: i'm pming you
13:41 < jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:42 < Bluelive> can anyone host the .asx that holds the list of mirrors ?
13:42 <@Yog-home> damn 276 now 
13:42 <@doofoo> what's up?
13:42 <@doofoo> what host?
13:42 < fr4nk> ok, if your primary mirroring is going on with nac, my box will just add to your load.
13:42 < geniusj> what IP?
13:42 < MaxieZ> Who can't host an asx file?
13:42 < geniusj> stat
13:42 <@mathx>  MrPants url me tarball url
13:42 < Alex_NYC> send me the asx
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13:42 < KuDeTA> god damn
13:42 < MaxieZ> that's like hosting a static html page...
13:42 <@mathx>  fr4nk: they have lots of bwe.
13:42 <@MrPants> http://www.tacular.com/katrina/hurricane.tar.gz
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13:42 < KuDeTA> who is in charge of the video??
13:42 < KuDeTA> i can help
13:42 < spstarr_work> compiling.... tis big///
13:42 <@X15> Ok, i'm going to start collecting IPs for the ASX file
13:42 <@doofoo> who needed dns?
13:42 < cfm> THink it's worth getting BitTorrent in there?
13:42 <@MrPants> these are the original mirrors 
13:42 <@mathx>  EVERYONE USE MR PANT'S TARBALL of pix please
13:42 < KuDeTA> i can get it going propperly if someone with authority speaks to me
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13:42 <@mathx>  dont hit the server 10000times
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13:42 < jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:43 < silas> Network Connection: Server returned error
13:43 <@X15> PM YOUR SERVER INFOR FOR THE ASX FILE
13:43 < spstarr_work> I only have 45KB/s streaming power, which isn't enough 
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13:43 <@X15> TYO M,E
13:43 < Bluelive> yeah but someone need to _write_ the .asx file with all the mirrors in it
13:43 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o jnagro] by mathx
13:43 <@NACAlex> ok
13:43 < silas> that is the error I'm getting?
13:43 < F-geek> yes to bittorrent
13:43 < bootnet> <---can host asx
13:43 <@NACAlex> we have three boxes coming up
13:43 <@NACAlex> one for streaming video
13:43 <@NACAlex> one for wiki
13:43 <@NACAlex> one for photos
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13:43 <@mathx>  NACAlex: are you at nac.net?
13:43 < KuDeTA> naca
13:43 <@doofoo> woot alex
13:43 <@doofoo> ;)
13:43 <@NACAlex> i am nac.net
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13:43 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o NACAlex] by mathx
13:43 <@doofoo> lol
13:43 <@mathx>  doofoo heh
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13:43 < PhiRatE> recommend providing an rsync server for photos if possible
13:43 < nouv> mrpants, is that for the whole site or just pictures?
13:43 < MaxieZ> NAXAlex: you work there?
13:43 <@mathx>  ok ok SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!
13:43 <@NACAlex> i own it
13:43 < PhiRatE> this will allow other mirrors to keep up to date
13:43 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+m] by mathx
13:43 <@mathx>  yeesh!
13:43 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o geniusj] by doofoo
13:43 <@mathx>  lets get organized.
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13:43 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+z] by mathx
13:44 <@NACAlex> we can make the photos server rsyncable
13:44 < MaxieZ> NACAlex: Well then approve Tim and my server transfer ;)
13:44 <@X15> PME YOUR MMS URL FOR YOUR SERVER FOR THE ASX
13:44 <@jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:44 <@mathx>  thanks jnagro.
13:44 <@jnagro> NACAlex: i can offer rsync of it too
13:44 <@jnagro> people are already using my miror
13:44 < PhiRatE> Once you ave an rsync url, please let me know.
13:44 <@mathx>  jnagro: thanks for the stopgap, we'll have an assload of BW from Nac in a second
13:44 < cshields> jnagro: did you fix it?  last time I tried it sped through a bunch of 404's
13:44 < JrM|nt> i'm pulling it down right now jnagro
13:44 <@doofoo> we'll have wiki and new pictures box up quickly after they are built
13:44 <@X15> I need URLS that will work guys
13:44 < JrM|nt> we will be able to mirror as well shortyll
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13:44 <@X15> not just server ips
13:44 <@NACAlex> soofo
13:44 <@NACAlex> doofoo
13:45 <@NACAlex> it's imminent.
13:45 <@doofoo> yes sir?
13:45 < royb> nac++
13:45 < MaxieZ> Well they don't work...we don't have sources ;)
13:45 <@doofoo> ok. yeah I was talking to ryan
13:45 <@doofoo> he had to reboot. :)
13:45 <@NACAlex> the wiki box is about 4 to 6 minutes out
13:45 <@mathx>  * WE ARE IN +Z MODE HERE, SO WE CAN HEAR YOU, YOU JUST CANT CHAT A STORM *
13:45 < MaxieZ> Sorry..smart ass habit
13:45 <@mathx>  doofoo: the wiki data is in the wiki.txt file
13:45 < KuDeTA> OK
13:45 < L337dexter> i have the WMS server up, now what do I do?
13:45 <@MrPants> okay
13:45 <@MrPants> my darwin server is up
13:45 < Alex_NYC> i suggest distributing the asx via round robin dns
13:45 <@MrPants> ready for a relay
13:45 <@doofoo> yeah.. mathx we'll setup the wiki backbone
13:45 <@doofoo> then we need help putting it all back into the wiki
13:45 <@mathx>  doofoo: and repopulate it?
13:45 <@mathx>  well most of the text is there
13:45 <@mathx>  a cutnpaste can work
13:46 <@mathx>  with some hand editing
13:46 < cfm> Request: Chop the image archives up into 100MB chunks, get torrents running to spread the server load.
13:46 <@X15> doofoo you gonna host the asx/
13:46 <@Eimann> MrPants: Could u please give me the relayconfig.xml? Thanks
13:46 <@NACAlex> does the DSS stuff run on CentOD?
13:46 <@mathx>  its only one page, really. and the about page which needs updating from all the help we've had :)
13:46 <@NACAlex> CentOS, that is?
13:46 < spstarr_work> trying to get other geeks (one has a T3) seeing if he can give some bandwidth for streaming....
13:46 <@mathx>  cfm: good idea!
13:46 < spstarr_work> no response yet
13:46 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+v cfm] by mathx
13:46 <@jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:46 <@Eimann> NACAlex: Jep it should run with it.
13:46 < KuDeTA> i have friends and they have friends, we can provide about 10-20 diffrent servers arround the world to host your video streams. You main cam link is getting so hammered u need to pull it down for a bit and give it to people with servers only
13:46 <@mathx>  can we get 100mb .zips of the pictures setup somewhere and a torrent started?
13:46 <@MrPants> i don't have the relayconfig.xml set up
13:46 <@mathx>  who wants to handle that
13:46 <@Eimann> s/With/on
13:46 <@NACAlex> ok
13:46 <@NACAlex> we have one box with centos / 512 meg ram ready to go
13:46 < nouv> mathx: i'll get that
13:46 < Bluelive> so we have a few people with the feed mirroring setups running, could we get those online and listed ?
13:47 <@doofoo> we can rrobin dns
13:47 <@NACAlex> what do you want to use that for
13:47 <@jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:47 < theagent> might have a major cable provider wanting to reflect off their main site.....
13:47 < spstarr_work> MATH: 'moo it'll take more than my T3 to feed that demand'
13:47 <@doofoo> do video.nola-input.org
13:47 < jono__> I have a big dual proc/LVD dual machine
13:47 < spstarr_work> not sure he can do it
13:47 <@geniusj> nola-input?
13:47 <@doofoo> and set it to all the feed addresses once setup
13:47 <@doofoo> err
13:47 < jono__> yeah, a new dns for video
13:47 <@doofoo> lol
13:47 <@Eimann> MrPants: Hm, how did u relay?
13:47 < ratman2> guys....ALL the audio feeds are down I cannot relay anything
13:47 <@doofoo> been quite a few hours
13:47 <@Yog-home> Evo_9: u have an EVO IX ?
13:47 <@MrPants> i am not relaying
13:47 <@mathx>  nouv - ok
13:47 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+v nouv] by mathx
13:47 <@doofoo> nola-intel
13:47 <@doofoo> ;)
13:47  * Yog-home has an Evo 8
13:47 <@MrPants> i am ready to mirror
13:47 <@jnagro> save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
13:47 <@doofoo> haven't slept all night
13:47 <@mathx>  doofoo: shh
13:47 <@NACAlex> heh
13:47 <@NACAlex> [13:47] <emdub> I think this is god getting back at us for too many Girls Gone Wild videos
13:47 <@NACAlex> [
13:48 <@mathx>  hahahaha
13:48 <@Yog-home> jnagro: think everyone heard you the first 23 times
13:48 <@jnagro> Yog-home: ;-)
13:48 <@Yog-home> jnagro: maybe put it in topic ?
13:48 < MaxieZ> God love Mardi Gras.  His church created it!
13:48 < spstarr_work> Math: he can't 'moo: we already run video services that generate revenue and i'm not inclined to interfere with them'
13:48 < spstarr_work> :(
13:48 < KuDeTA> lol, ill say once more then ill give up. i can solve your video streaming problems if one of the @'s talks to me for 5 minutes
13:48 <@jnagro> Yog-home: feel free, you can view the photos there and run mirrors off it
13:48 <@doofoo> spstarr: that is not the spirit.. :(
13:48 < spstarr_work> :(
13:49 <@Yog-home> already looked at 'em
13:49 <@Yog-home> unelss ther'es new ones
13:49 < Bluelive> so how do we get the mirrors working ?
13:49 < theagent> anyone at DirectNIC have a problem with a major cable internet provider reflecting  the videocam?
13:49 < insane|> ehllo everyone...
13:49 < iapx8088> parting, find me in #-digest
13:49 <@Yog-home> theagent: why would they ? 
13:49 <@NACAlex> besides the fasct they'd probably fubar it?
13:49 <@NACAlex> :)
13:49 <@doofoo> lol
13:49 < L337dexter> so we are mirroring video.nola-input.org ?
13:49 < theagent> Yog-home, I always ask first
13:49  * Yog-home dun get all the ppl joining tech
13:50 < cshields> Yog-home: just trying to help  :P
13:50 < torg> They are telling people to join us in main chan.
13:50 < theagent> Yog-home, I don't just make assumptions
13:50 < gh> where is a cam feed i can get into?
13:50 < cshields> unfortunately it's looking a little too caotic for help
13:50 <@mathx>  The proxy server could not handle the request GET http://video.nola-input.org/.
13:50 <@mathx>  Reason: Host not found
13:50 < leenerella> ok, I'm new to IRC, but I have bandwidth and disk space, and I want to help mirror the cam
13:50 <@doofoo> sorry guys
13:50 <@doofoo> i meant http://video.nola-intel.org
13:50 <@Yog-home> i thought this chan was just the few dozen geeks in #interdictor :)
13:50 <@doofoo> lol... i told you, sleep deprevation
13:50 <@mathx>  Yog-home: so did we.
13:50 < roo9> ok, bush is trotting out the "we can walk and chew gum at the same time" thing again
13:50 < torg> Yeah, that was the plan, but it's becoming mirroring central.
13:50 < a36> are there any mirrors up?
13:51 < _evad> This channel for mirroring?
13:51 < iris_> ADMINS: We would be willing to rebroadcast the interdictor streams and any scanner streams. let me know what we can do. iris@servercity.com
13:51 <@Yog-home> agh.. i wish xchat had a way of ignoring parts/joins
13:51 < icculus> Yog-home: it does
13:51 < torg> Yog, it does.
13:51 < bootnet> does anyone have config instructions for wms mirror?
13:51 < L337dexter> The Specidifed server can no tbe found
13:51 < PhiRatE> FOr those using epic/IRC2:
13:51 < roo9> f~Yog-home: it does, it's called conference mode
13:51 < L337dexter> we need a readme for WMS server
13:51 < icculus> right click the channel tab
13:51 < torg> It's in the "text input" section.
13:51 <@Yog-home> well.. I'm running a olld version
13:51 < PhiRatE>   /on ^join  "* % *"
13:51 <@Yog-home> oh I remember that now
13:51 <@Yog-home> lemme look
13:51 < PhiRatE> will kill joins
13:51 < emagdnim> I have 2GB of hosting that's yours
13:51 < roo9> f~Yog-home: it's to the right of the input field, on top of the colors
13:51 < T-Dawg> yog-home: right click channel
13:51 < djbsquared> or run something better than xcaht :P
13:51 < roo9> at the top of the ddlb
13:51 < spstarr_work> compiling Darwin Streaming Server: gcc 3.4.4 on Linux builds it fine
13:52 < bwheatley> bah damn DSS doestn want to run propbably on RHEL 3
13:52 < torg> I can't do much for mirroring or hosting, but I'm more than happy to help answer the questions as best I can.
13:52 < emagdnim> So basicly, a few of your pictures.. haha
13:52  * Yog-home likes xchat :)
13:52 < spstarr_work> GNU LD 2.15.91.x.x 
13:52 < T-Dawg> and hit show join/part messages
13:52 <@X15> Everyone that wants to mirror please goto the URL in the topic and read it
13:52 <@Yog-home> but htis is a CRUSTY old version
13:52 < fr4nk> i'm looking into the bit torrent option
13:52 <@Yog-home> 1.8.10
13:52 < insane|> ok, i want to setup a european (DE) mirror of the live camfeed (100mbit dedicated link), who do i have to talk to?
13:52 <@Yog-home> :)
13:52 < Kremit> regarding the FAQ: the radio feeds are 32kbps MP3 streams... they can be mirrored with the Icecast server (http://www.icecast.org) or Shoutcast (http://www.shoutcast.com/download/serve.phtml)
13:52 < djbsquared> if it responds to IRC commands, then do this
13:52 < torg> Besides, if you think x-chats options are bad... try viewing it with trillian like I am =P
13:52 < Bluelive> new image page linked to be mirrored http://sigmund.biz/kat200509012/
13:52 < djbsquared>  /ignore -channel #interdictor-tech * JOINS PARTS QUITS
13:52 < leenerella> thank you.
13:52 < Kremit> I can provide an icecast config file if you want it
13:52 < mxhess> so.. darwin stream.. been afk for a bit.. any progress?
13:53 <@Yog-home> eww..trillian
13:53 <@Yog-home> for irc...
13:53 < leenerella> sorry.
13:53 <@jnagro> rsync mirror of the photos up
13:53 < torg> Yeah, it suxxors.
13:53 <@Eimann> hi insane| 
13:53 < djbsquared> wait, who said trillian?
13:53 <@jnagro> rsync east-boston.utopus.net
13:53 <@Eimann> insane|: i'll query u
13:53 < djbsquared> they need to be shot
13:53 < tom-33517> NACAlex: Do you have a means of posting your bandwidth utilization?
13:53 < leenerella> I was a spod, not an IRC junkie :)
13:53 < leenerella> talkers/MUDs are more my speed.
13:53 < insane|> kk
13:53 <@NACAlex> we can eventually
13:53 < theagent> I need a good cam feed for Comcast to look at
13:53 < rbw> does anyone have a working webcam feed at this point?
13:54 < rbw> erm.  sorry
13:54 < rbw> wrong chann
13:54 < Houston> lol the link is down http://video.nola-intel.org/
13:54 <@jnagro> rsync mirror of photos east-boston.utopus.net
13:54 <@doofoo> it was never up at that page
13:54 < L337dexter> /on ^JOIN "* % *"
13:54 < L337dexter> /on ^LEAVE "* % *"
13:54 < L337dexter> /on ^SIGNUP "* % *"
13:54 < Houston> <-- as afk and now everyone can tell *blush*
13:54 < L337dexter> so where do i get the source?
13:54 < theagent> the wiki is down or just hammered?
13:54 <@doofoo> hammered
13:54 < bwheatley> ohh dss is dependent on an older version of perl well ahardlinkd filename will have to work around
13:54 <@doofoo> we are re-setting it up elsewhere
13:55 < PhiRatE> rsync url added
13:55 < PhiRatE> tnx
13:55 <@jnagro> save bandwith mirror photos off east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ rsync too
13:55 <+nouv> should a bittorrent site be setup if we've got the rsync server up?
13:55 <@doofoo> in a better configuration
13:55 < L337dexter> it overload and ide?
13:55 < Bluelive> non live high quality 30min recordings of the webcam through bittorrent might get popular
13:55 < iris_> any news on restreaming the radio scanner feeds?
13:55 < MaxieZ> For the faq with BitchX it's /ignore #channel PARTS JOINS QUITS
13:55 < Houston> ok people want a Test Video Feed?
13:55 <@Eimann> We need a wiki or so, for tech-coordination, so see what every mirror is doing, bandwidth, contact and so on. if anyone could setup such a wiki that would be great
13:55 < Houston> http://unigrep.com/nola.asx
13:55 < theagent> let me know when someone has an uncongested cam feed that I can send a link to Comcast
13:55 < bigdummee> hi, a correction for the tech_faq: line for producing silence in #7 says /on SIGNUP should be /on SIGNOFF
13:55 < Houston> That is CNN
13:56 < icculus> I'm on it
13:56 < Houston> Grab it and test it for your stream mirrors
13:56 < bigdummee> at least for ircII
13:56 <+nouv> i can get that wiki up too
13:57 < Kremit> I think the nola-intel wiki is coming back up soon, we should keep everything there, including a /Tech page
13:57 < spstarr_work> im working on instructions for Linux 
13:57 < L337dexter> i could get one up...
13:57 < Shoragan> is the feed avaible over rtsp?
13:57 <@Eimann> And what we need from the streaming relays: the source ip - so we can handle access-control lists on the main-server so that is all time available with enough bandwidth
13:57 < royb> i think a torrent would be good.
13:57 < KuDeTA> #interdictor-video
13:57 <@Yog-home> hrm.. wiki is down or just hammered ?
13:57 < djbsquared> down
13:57 < djbsquared> box went teh b0rk
13:57 <@Yog-home> djbsquared: fix it
13:57 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o djbsquared] by mathx
13:57  * Yog-home grins
13:57 < WeyrNet-James> I have no idea at all how to use DSS :x
13:57 <@jnagro> rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
13:57 <@mathx>  we are fixing wiki
13:57 <@djbsquared> Yog-home: not my box :)
13:57 < PhiRatE> Eim: added to faq
13:57 < spstarr_work> DarwinStreamingSrvr-Linux.tar.gz  :-D
13:57 <@Yog-home> heh..i wonder what happened
13:57 < spstarr_work> now to install
13:57 <@Eimann> PhiRatE: thx
13:58 < Houston> lmao some people asked for a stream to test from and now no one is touching it :)
13:58 < Evo_9> Yog: Yeah right, I'm a student
13:58 <@Eimann> i'lll write down a short form to apply for a mirror.
13:58 <@NACAlex> eimann
13:58 <@NACAlex> you have AIM?
13:58 < leenerella> ah crap, my server supports darwin, but not live streaming.  sorry guys. :(
13:59 <@X15> Allright folks, were getting Internic to reset there stream, were gonna pipe it to 5 or less master servers and everone else will mirror them
13:59 < Evo_9> Yog: no way I could afford one
13:59 <@X15> Only the third level mirros will go in the ASX
13:59 <+cfm> X15: Sounds good
13:59 <@X15> So what i need right now is to know who has the MOST capacity to act as a a master
13:59 <@djbsquared> they need to stream in a better format :P like qt
13:59 <@Eimann> NACAlex: eimann235
13:59 < nonforma> tacular mirror is down
13:59 <@X15> Everyone with more then 500mbit/s please sounbd off
13:59 <@NACAlex> NACParadox is going to AIM you to get the video streamer up
13:59 < Houston> <-- only have a 10Meg connection.. but lots of know how on WMS
13:59 <@MrPants> just a minute, nonforma
13:59 < theagent> how about mp4 streams... most universal
13:59 <@Yog-home> Evo_9: I like th Evo X ... front end is much cooler looking
14:00 <@NACAlex> we've got 500 mbits/sec
14:00 < PhiRatE> are we dns rr'ing the pics mirrors?
14:00 < Spacey_> Heh, I have more than 5gb/sec :)
14:00 < KuDeTA> ive got 1gb a sec
14:00 < rknepper> we've got it, still working it out w/ administration here
14:00 <@X15> Ok, i have two, need three more
14:00 < KuDeTA> and 1gb sec .eu
14:00 <@X15> 2
14:00 <@NACAlex> this thing will never touch 500 mbits/sec though
14:00 <@X15> 1
14:00 < bkdelong> I have a pretty hefty server we can possibly mirror on. Hosts the largest Harry Potter fan site on the Web and handled several million hits a day during Book 6 launch in July. Not sure we can mirror but I can inquire.
14:00 <@Eimann> NACAlex: ok
14:00 <@X15> need one more
14:00 <@doofoo> it's not on gbit is it?
14:00 <@MrPants> nonforma: tacular.com mirror is back up
14:00 < KuDeTA> lets do this in
14:01 < KuDeTA> #interdictor-video
14:01 <@Yog-home> bah..i don't think this version of xchat has conf mode
14:01 <@X15> I need one more mirror with more then 500mbit/s
14:01 < theagent> Yog-home, located in pulldown menu next to text input field
14:01 <@MrPants> for a level 2?
14:01 <@MrPants> the level 2 mirrors don't need to be that big
14:01 < princessfrozen> does anybody know if interdictor/directnic is already in contact with google re: streaming the video feed?
14:01 < `jarsonic> for a level 1.
14:01 <@djbsquared> pictures to mirror: http://sigmund.biz/kat200509012/
14:01 <@MrPants> since they're only going to be hit with level 3 server traffic
14:01 < L337dexter> i will be back in liek 10 minutes with a wiki if we want it
14:02 <@MrPants> the big hardware needs to be on level 3
14:02 <@X15> Pants i'm just being safe at the moment
14:02 < bkdelong> pictures we could possibly handle.
14:02 <@MrPants> ok
14:02 < theagent> big hardware or LOTS of hardware
14:02 <@NACAlex> the wiki is being built now
14:02 <@X15> We can probably cut down alot
14:02 <@Yog-home> theagent: there is none in this version  ... 1.8
14:02 < KuDeTA> yes
14:02 < bipto> Yog-home: my xchat 1.8.9 does. RHS of text line. Tiny drop down menu.
14:02 <@Yog-home> oh.. there it is
14:02 < Dark-Fx> I wich I had a server with that kind of bandwidth :(
14:02 < KuDeTA> i would use a triangle
14:02 <@jnagro> rsync photos via:  rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
14:02 <@X15> but i once it goes up i want it to stay up
14:02 <@MrPants> X15: better safe than sorry though, you have that right
14:02 < KuDeTA> 1 server (directnic) at the top
14:02 <@Yog-home> this one has a slide out menu
14:02 <@speakit> http://nola.blagblagblag.org/east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
14:02 <@X15> ok, we'll go with 4
14:02 < Houston> is anyone still stuck on setting up WMS?
14:02 < KuDeTA> one .eu and one .us for masters
14:02 <@Yog-home> w/ the colors and tech styles
14:02 <@speakit> another pic mirror: http://nola.blagblagblag.org/east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
14:02 < m242> someone set up a video mirror at http://video.freevideoblog.com/neworleans/index.htm
14:02 < nonforma> MrPants: thanks
14:02 < vthornton> More National Guardsmen Reach New Orleans (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/02/national/a095218D41.DTL)
14:03 < KuDeTA> then use the rest to give it straight to the users
14:03 <@X15> KuDeTA: we'll use you if you can do it
14:03 < theagent> test those level 1 reflectors
14:03 < theagent> video good?
14:03 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+v KuDeTA] by X15
14:03 <@Yog-home> heh.. that's the last place I'd think they'd put it
14:03 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [-v KuDeTA] by djbsquared
14:03 < JeffW> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup a mirror for the cam on linux, any thoughts on software to run it?
14:03 < macjunkie> i'm willing to mirror a stream
14:03 < theagent> Yog-home, yeah... hard to find that little bugger
14:03 < KuDeTA> im doing my best on my own
14:03 < KuDeTA> no one has the time to talk to me
14:03 < macjunkie> i have a darwin streaming server already setup and ready to go
14:03 < KuDeTA> (of course i understand)
14:03 <@jnagro> who's in charge of the FAQ?
14:03 < CryptoCat> Where is the first audio stream? did it go down?
14:04 < PhiRatE> me
14:04 < PhiRatE> sup?
14:04 < CryptoCat> the one on :8001 I mean
14:04 < KuDeTA> if u guys join #interdictor-video then we can co-ordinate video from there
14:04 < JrM|nt> Picture mirror up (still sync'ing):  http://medusa.transedge.com
14:04 <@jnagro> PhiRatE: did you fix the rsync link to read: rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
14:04 < PhiRatE> will do right now
14:04 < PhiRatE> done
14:04 <@jnagro> PhiRatE: thanks
14:05 < roo9> or rsync://boston.utopus.net/katrina
14:05 < theagent> are the level1 video mirrors working?
14:05 <@Yog-home> man.. I can't believe how badly the NOLA authorities mismanaged this whole crisis
14:05 <@Yog-home> pretty amazing
14:05 < KuDeTA> yea
14:05 <@jnagro> roo9: east-boston.utopus.net
14:05 <@Yog-home> too bad they didn't ahve rudy juliani or something
14:05 < syf>  
14:05 < KuDeTA> i think ure mayor did a pretty good job on radio this morning
14:05 < KuDeTA> really sent mr bush jr the message
14:06 < HatsForBats> */about
14:06 <@Eimann> http://eimann.etherkiller.de/mirror-faq
14:07 < mmead> is there a less public link to the new set of pictures for mirrors?
14:07 < macjunkie> do i msg that back to you after i fill it out?
14:07 <@jebba> Eimann, ya, but where do we send out the application?
14:07 < PhiRatE> Eimann: how do they get that info to you? :)
14:07 < theagent> link off wiki
14:07 <@Eimann> PhiRatE: Aeh, wiki or so, or mail ... mom
14:08 < theagent> how far from a good wiki are we now?
14:08 < theagent> where are we with the level1 video reflectors?
14:08 <@Eimann> updated it
14:09 < jwiv> Looks good Eimann
14:09 <+nouv> very nice
14:09 < PhiRatE> Ok, how are we coordinating the picture mirrors?
14:09 < JeffW> Thanks Eimann 
14:09 < PhiRatE> is there a reirector somewhere?
14:09 < KuDeTA> making a list of all who can host video
14:09 < KuDeTA> please msg me if u can
14:09 < a36> I have 100mbit+ line -- what can I do ?
14:09 <@Eimann> PhiRatE: No redirector yet
14:09 < PhiRatE> ok, I've got one
14:09 < KuDeTA> and join #interdictor-video
14:10 < m242> 3gbps mirror seems to be working pretty well: http://video.freevideoblog.com/no.asx
14:10 < PhiRatE> anyone who has a pic url they want to add to the general stream, gimme. URL to the root of the pics pls.
14:10 < x222943> i got about 10x 100mbps boxes i can fire up darwin on.. want me to send form along?
14:10 < PhiRatE> blagblag, got yours.
14:11 < PhiRatE> exorsus.net/interdictor_find_me_pics.php
14:11 <@X15> doofoo? how we doing?
14:11 < PhiRatE> will send you to a random piture server from the list
14:11 < PhiRatE> (only got one right now tho :)
14:11 <@geniusj> X15, servers aren't up yet
14:11 < theagent> we still don't know what OS is serving up the actual camera....  laptop, server?
14:11 < Uebtu> Houston: Server working great, nice quality
14:11 < hfx_ben> re
14:11 < icculus> http://nola-intel.icculus.org/techwiki/
14:11 < icculus> Wiki if you still need it.
14:12 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o doofew] by doofoo
14:12 < mayo> the wiki got swamped?
14:12 <@doofew> yeah
14:12 <@doofew> we are putting a new one up
14:12 < mayo> damn
14:12 <@geniusj> same wiki.. new locatoin
14:12 <@doofew> actually
14:12 <@geniusj> location
14:12 <@doofew> same wiki content
14:13 <@doofew> same wiki location
14:13 <@doofew> different box
14:13 < torg> Are you guys getting blasted with stupid questions?  If someone wants to +v me, I'll do what I can to answer them and let you guys work on the mirrors.
14:13 <@geniusj> oh right ;)
14:13 < mayo> you guys need any help besides mirroring?
14:13 < icculus> doofew: So we don't need the Wiki I just put up? Let me know and I'll disable it so there isn't confusion.
14:13 < Inaki> mirroring pics to dreamchaos.net now
14:14 <@doofew> nope
14:14 < spstarr_work> ok streaming server is up, its easy to build on Linux
14:14  * spstarr_work tests
14:14 <@doofew> don't need it.. please disable
14:14 <@doofew> will cause confusion
14:14 < icculus> roger that
14:14 <@Yog-home> so any of u guys actually have a vid mirror up now ?
14:14 < darknessofevil99> are the pics mirrored yet
14:14 < darknessofevil99> or vid mirror
14:14 <@doofew> it will still be wiki.nola-intel.org
14:14 < Inaki> oh okay
14:14 <@doofew> once we fix it
14:14 < KuDeTA> we are working on it now yog
14:14 < darknessofevil99> i mean pictures2
14:14 < darknessofevil99> i saw the earlier ones on a mirror
14:14 < theagent> what are we stuck on regarding the video feed?
14:14 < icculus> ok, disabled
14:14 <@Yog-home> it's dark anyway
14:15 <@Yog-home> won't be able to see muhc on the cam
14:15 < bwheatley> bah gotta go focus on getting dss up its being a wh0re i'll come back once i get it running on all 24 servers
14:15 <@Yog-home> the damn scanner link went down though :(
14:15 < `jarsonic> dark?  it's only 2:15
14:15 < `jarsonic> PM
14:15 < PhiRatE> heh. Foiled by a lack of sunlight :)
14:15 <@X15> Please be patient guys, were wating for the Internic feed
14:15 <@Eimann> wuah, help, i need some page where i can enter the mirror applications ;)
14:15 <@Yog-home> by the time the mirrors are up :)
14:15 < Diorama> Are you going to get yahoo to host like with wwltv?
14:15 <@djbsquared> X15: im working on getting that to you
14:15 < `jarsonic> yog: ah, heh.yeah, maybe
14:16 < PhiRatE> Eimann: h5
14:16 < ratman2> they are working on the scanner feeds ppl
14:16 <@Eimann> PhiRatE: hm, h5? what do u mean?
14:16 < PhiRatE> hang-5
14:16 < PhiRatE> :)
14:16 <@Yog-home> Fri Sep  2 11:16:11 PDT 2005
14:17 < |ynchmob> ok - ive got dss working here (pretty sure - nmap and logs show its up)
14:17 < TragicR5> i'm trying to get my wms up now. never actually used it before so i'm seeing how quickly i can get it up
14:17 <@Eimann> PhiRatE: sorry, i can't get it. my multitasking code isn't so optimize for doing and thinking of >100 thinks at the same time ;)
14:17  * PhiRatE grins
14:17 <@Yog-home> |ynchmob: where would 'here' be ? :)
14:17 <@Yog-home> WMS == Windows Media Server I presume ?
14:17 < |ynchmob> at an isp where i work - www.knology.com - southeast USA
14:18 < fr4nk> ok what do you want me to do about a bittorrent tracker
14:18 < fr4nk> what files?
14:18 < theagent> I'm seriously concerned about the viability of the seed feed with these reflectors...  has anyone actually connected from level1 reflectors?
14:18 < fr4nk> should i mirror to picture site and zip it?
14:18 < hfx_ben> FYI: I checked and WayBack did not snapshot wiki
14:18 <@Yog-home> did google check it ?
14:18 <@Yog-home> err. cache it ?
14:18 < KuDeTA> would u like me to create a page for mirror applications and applicants?
14:18 < hfx_ben> yog: nope
14:18 <@Yog-home> I think it's only been up since last night
14:19 < KuDeTA> i can do that if needed
14:19 < HuweyII> Are you guys going to replace your picture site with a list of the mirrors?  Or is there somewehre we should register the web mirror when we have it up?
14:19 <@Yog-home> who owns the wiki server ?
14:19 <@djbsquared> HuweyII: just let us know
14:19 < emagdnim> Do you have a tar.gz of the latest photos I can mirror?
14:19 <@djbsquared> Yog-home: its DR|'s
14:19 < fr4nk> mathx : you asked about bittorent?
14:19 <@mathx>  yes.
14:19 < TragicR5> where can i get the data from? i'm gonna test this now. wms seems easy to use
14:19 <@mathx>  do we have a bittorent setup of chunks of the main .zip of pix
14:19 <@mathx>  we need 100mb zips put together
14:19 < D0peUser> why would you kb me? did you read the article about the major oil spill posted just now?
14:19 < fr4nk> i'm working of it
14:19 <@mathx>  and then torrented
14:19 -!- Eimann changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | READ ME: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt | Use http://eimann.etherkiller.de/mirror-apply for mirrorapplication, sent mail to db@rrbone.net thanks
14:19 <@Yog-home> guess he's not here
14:19 < D0peUser> not trolling
14:20 < HuweyII> groovy djbsquared, will do
14:20 < fr4nk> i got a tracker, working on zipping
14:20 < fr4nk> you got a better place for me to mirror than from the east-boston mirror
14:20 <@mathx>  fr4nk: ok. we;'ll setup a wiki page for the torrents when the wiki is up
14:20 < fr4nk> or a tarball
14:20 <@mathx>  doofew: any eta on WIKI?
14:20 <@Yog-home> D0peUser: oil spill ?  was kinda expecting that
14:20 <@Eimann> ah, ok, itÄs in the faq
14:20 < jwiv> Good luck with it guys. 
14:20 <@Yog-home> D0peUser: one of the oil rigs I presume ?
14:20 <@mathx>  east-boston is slow?
14:20 <@djbsquared> Yog-home: do you already have the info of the main stream?
14:20 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+v fr4nk] by mathx
14:20 < emagdnim> http://www.tacular.com/katrina/hurricane.tar.gz ??
14:20 <+fr4nk> no just wondering
14:20 <@djbsquared> or who wanted it?
14:20 <+fr4nk> the tarball was more what interested me
14:21 <@Yog-home> djbsquared: wasn't me
14:21 < PhiRatE> Eimann: updated apply
14:21 <@mathx>  enagdnim has a url there
14:21 <@djbsquared> mathx: who needs the info for the main stream?
14:21 < bigdummee> hi, a correction for the tech_faq: line for producing silence in #7 says /on SIGNUP should be /on SIGNOFF
14:21 < bigdummee> at least for ircII
14:21 < darknessofevil99> yea
14:21 -!- doofew is now known as doofoo
14:21 <@Eimann> i need some who can write a piece of code, which show me 7 field where i can enter the mirror-application stuff. than save it to a textfile and print out a table.
14:21 < TragicR5> i need info for the main stream
14:21 < TragicR5> i have wms running
14:21 < PhiRatE> Eimann: hrm
14:21 <@djbsquared> doofoo: did you need the info?
14:22 < bootnet> i need info for the main stream for wms
14:22 <@doofoo> what info?
14:22 <@djbsquared> TragicR5: and what kind of bandwith do you have?
14:22 < dniq> I have DSS up and running.
14:22 <@djbsquared> doofoo: who was looking for the stream?
14:22 <@Yog-home> eww.. web programming :)
14:22 <@Yog-home> dniq: DSS ?
14:22 < dniq> Darwin Streaming Server
14:22 <@X15> djb i'll take it
14:22 <@Yog-home> ah
14:22 <@X15> If you have the direct one
14:22 < scarolan> Eimann - someone ought to be able to whack together a php/mysql interface for you
14:22 < stew> Eimann: you want it in php? what language?
14:22 <@djbsquared> X15: there you are, im working to get it from donny
14:22 <@Yog-home> dniq: is that on a Mac (OSX) ?
14:22 <@X15> Thanks
14:22 < dniq> Linux
14:22 < mtmoore> Eimann: what lanaguage you need it in?
14:22 <@mathx>  djbsquared: not sure who has a mirror ready to go.
14:22 <@Yog-home> or just happens to use 'darwin'
14:23 <@Yog-home> oic
14:23 <+nouv> mathx: do we want a wiki for interdictor-tech?
14:23 <@Yog-home> dniq: hrm.. gentoo doesn't have it in the portage tree
14:23 < dniq> So as soon as I know all the info to get the stream down - I can set the rest of the things up.
14:24 <@mathx>  nouv: no, we have a central wiki going up all things will be in it
14:24 <+nouv> k
14:24 <@mathx>  any wiki for anything related to this will be knocked over unless its on a gigiabit link and clustered with RR DNS
14:24 <@mathx>  need serious HA server setup stuff.
14:24 <@djbsquared> X15: http://old.mises.org:88/NO, use taht
14:24 < dniq> Yog-home: I got it from http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
14:24 <@mathx>  speaking of which, are we going to use heartbeat or soemthing?
14:24 <@mathx>  NAC guys?
14:24 <@geniusj> T-Dizzle?
14:24 <@mathx>  heartbeat for failover.
14:24 < Monitor_Burn> anyone manage to get a decent mirror for the cam yet?
14:25 <@X15> djb that's totaly hamerd
14:25 < Monitor_Burn> all the ones on the page are overloaded
14:25 <@djbsquared> X15: as in not usable?
14:25 <@Yog-home> dniq: yeh.. too bad I don't have any bandwidth :)
14:25 <@X15> we need the direct link
14:25 <@djbsquared> ok
14:25 < darknessofevil99> the mises video feed is back online :)
14:25 <@djbsquared> not announcing it in here though
14:25 < theagent> NO don't announce that in here!
14:25 < darknessofevil99> though taking a while to buffer... is that a direct feed from the building or a mirror?
14:25 < T-Dawg> =-o
14:25 <@X15> djb, no, pm me
14:25 <@MrPants> darkness, that is a mirror.
14:26 <@X15> we'll get one of our huge guys setup with it then let that out
14:26 <@Eimann> mtmoore: php, or perl... use what u like
14:26 <@X15> Alex, you here?
14:26 < MatthewA1> Eimann: sorry for taking so long. im building a dedicated box....rerouted some bandwidth, but for now I can try throwing the stream on another box. info?
14:26 < T-Dawg> yes J-dizzle?
14:26 < darknessofevil99> yea the mises is seriously overloaded... constantly buffering
14:26 < darknessofevil99> reaching its max limit... 
14:27 < Alex_NYC> me?
14:27 < theagent> I just want confirmation of at least a single level1 reflector accessing the current cam
14:27 <@Eimann> MatthewA1: no plan, i've been to busy right now
14:27 <@X15> NacAlex
14:27 <+nouv> BT tracker is up
14:27 <+nouv> what file needs to be torrented?
14:27 <@X15> Ok, who were my phatpipes?
14:28 < MatthewA1> Eimann: ok, you can holler at me when you want to try something. have the hardware ready. same s/n on AIM
14:28 <+fr4nk> nouv got one as well
14:28 <+fr4nk> when i get the files down i'll make zips to be tracked gimme some time
14:28 <@Eimann> MatthewA1: thanks
14:28 <+nouv> is it that big zip file?
14:28 <+fr4nk> is there a big zip file? i couldnt get a working link
14:29 <@X15> Who here has more then 500mb/s bw?
14:29 < theagent> man the wiki has been down for awhile.... ETA?
14:29 < emagdnim> I do
14:29 <@djbsquared> theagent: not sure
14:29 <+nouv> i downloaded one earlier but it didnt work.  i guess i missed the conversation about it.
14:29 < emagdnim> I'm on SBC Gigaman
14:29 < bootnet> I do ... can give 100mbps of it now, maybe more later
14:30 <@X15> Comeone guys, i know i have people here with more bw than God....
14:30 < Torg> NacAlex had a ton.
14:30 <@djbsquared> NACAlex: ping
14:30 <+fr4nk> X15 talk to NACAlex
14:30 <@djbsquared> NACAlex: we really need you now
14:30 < TragicR5> do you need it over a media server feed? or just a file that people can download?
14:30 < theagent> X15, you looking for the level2 gys?
14:30 < bootnet> there's a difference between having 500mbps+ connection and REALLY having 500mbps available
14:30 <@X15> He seems to be afk
14:30 <+nouv> x15:  maybe we can make an announcement in the main channel asking for bw
14:30 <@X15> yes agent
14:30 < mxhess> what size will a single stream be?
14:31 <@X15> Most people should already be ehre
14:31 <@djbsquared> mxhess: need minimum 100Mb available
14:31 <@X15> they just seem to have gone AFK on me
14:31 < MatthewA1> need bandwidth?
14:31 <@X15> Lots
14:31 <@djbsquared> but if NAC shows back up, then we should be ok
14:31 < MatthewA1> streaming?
14:31 < Bluelive> Great effort all :)
14:31 < TragicR5> i'm seeming what my provider can do. i'll get back to you soon.
14:31 < ratman2> what happned to NAC
14:32 <@X15> Pants, you here?
14:32 <@MrPants> yes
14:32 <@X15> How much do you have?
14:32 < roo9> what are you looking for bandwidth for?
14:32 <+fr4nk> MrPants the link for the full .tar.gz of the pictures doesnt work
14:32 <@MrPants> right now not a whole not, 10 or 20
14:32 < theagent> posted on main channel
14:32 <@X15> Hmmm
14:32 <@MrPants> i can help set up and coordinate things though
14:32 <@MrPants> i'm working on gettting darwin configured as a reflector
14:33 < bootnet> x15 whad do you need it for?
14:33 < mxhess> same here only about  10-20 Mb/s
14:33 < bootnet> what even
14:33 <@djbsquared> thats not enough
14:33 < emagdnim> Will I need to have RSync setup for photos?
14:33 < KuDeTA> anyone got a guide for my friend so he can mirror?
14:33 <@MrPants> and i'm not exactly sure how to get it doing wmv
14:33 <@MrPants> fr4nk- looking into it
14:33 <@X15> bootnet: streaming teh cam
14:33 < JrM|nt> we've got OC3 but don't have darwin working yet
14:33 <+fr4nk> is it possible to split zip files with the linux command line gnu version?
14:33 <@X15> And i need a webserver that can handle half the people in the country please
14:34 < TragicR5> damn, i've only got 1700 kbps
14:34 < Houston> im here
14:34 < logic> might be worth asking on nanog@nanog.org for assistance.
14:34 <@X15> Small, text file, but more hits then you thought posible
14:34 < nonforma> lol I think that means you'll need multiple servers
14:34 < icculus> fr4nk: zipspit myarchive.zip
14:34 < icculus> er...
14:34 < icculus> zipsplit
14:34 <@Eimann> Thanks you all for you mirror applications! I'll answer asap, i'll have to bring some system into this chaos
14:34 < bootnet> x15 ... I'll host the text file
14:34 < roo9> x15: i can do that
14:34 <+nouv> i have a webserver that took a slashdotting pretty well
14:34 < Spacey_> What is this text file going to be?
14:34 <+nouv> but no video feeds :(
14:34 < TragicR5> well, let me know what i can do immediately. getting the media server up is gonna take a little bit
14:34 <@X15> a ASK
14:34 <@MrPants> it will be an asx file
14:34 <@speakit> any rsync for http://sigmund.biz.nyud.net:8090/kat200509012/ ????? this one os blocking wget by robots.txt
14:34 < dniq> X15 for how long?
14:34 < macmouse> fr4nk: using the officall zip format or just split somehow
14:34 <@X15> Spacey_: wheres your BW form?
14:35 < bootnet> when factcheck.org went down, I saved it
14:35 < Houston> I can help people mirrow WMV's
14:35 < mayo> is it only me or is google maps getting hit hard and is slow as heck?
14:35 < Alex_NYC> why not distrib the text file via round robin dns
14:35 < bootnet> been slashdotted twice in one day ... no prob
14:35 < macmouse> speakit: there is a flat to disable checking for the robots.txt file..
14:35 < |ynchmob> Eimann:  http://www.spherens.com/mirror.php
14:35 <@X15> bootnet: what's your system
14:35 < Houston> or ASX files (er sorry)
14:35 < macmouse> flat=flag
14:35 < Houston> hehe
14:35 < bootnet> win2k3
14:35 < roo9> speakit: you can tell wget to ignore robots.txt
14:35 < bootnet> with wms
14:35 < Houston> If you have WMS
14:35 < TragicR5> windows
14:35 <@djbsquared> bootnet: how much bandwith do you actually have?
14:35 <@X15> If you want to host the ASX i need proven qualifications, i'm only doing this once
14:35 < Spacey_> I'm still debating how much bw I can realistically just give away.  heh
14:35 < Houston> All you need to do is point it to his ASX stream
14:35 < bootnet> 400-500mbs depending on time of day
14:35 < bootnet> I'm willing to give 100mbs
14:36 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: thanks
14:36 <@X15> boot: company?
14:36 <@djbsquared> Spacey_: if you are debating, you dont have the space
14:36 < |ynchmob> Eimann: that form mails directly to you
14:36 < |ynchmob> if you just wanna use that
14:36 < Spacey_> I have the space, just not sure if I want to run around giving it away.
14:36 <@djbsquared> you will need at least 2TB transfer
14:36 <@djbsquared> Tb
14:36 <+fr4nk> speakit cant you tell wget to ignroe that
14:36  * Yog-home watching F1 practice on the Tivo :)
14:36  * |ynchmob is rebuilding the mythtv box today
14:37 < Houston> Once you install WMS and go through the setup it will be clear what to do
14:37 < nonforma> djbsquared: for a day or for the month?
14:37 < Torg> Yog:  I found xchats join/part block (trillian finally pissed me off.)  Right click on the channel button, it's in there.
14:37 < KuDeTA> oki dokie
14:37 < KuDeTA> so whats the situation with the video now
14:37 < Houston> if you need a stream to test mirroring let me know. 
14:37 <@Yog-home> Torg: yeh.. conference mode
14:37 < KuDeTA> have we got enough people ready to mirror it?
14:38 <@djbsquared> its being taken care of
14:38 < Torg> Nah, it's "Ignore Joins/parts" =)
14:38 <@Yog-home> Torg: yeh on this version it's conf mode
14:38 < Cloak> I have some of the pics hosted already, just need to get the word out to people now. What else needs hosting?
14:38 <@speakit> wget supports the robots = off line in .wgetrc which will ignore the robots.txt file restrictions.
14:38 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: Ah, i see, can u do some mysql into it instead of sending me a mail? moment please, i'll give u some fill-in tips.
14:38 <@speakit> ok
14:38 < Cloak> I've got a box sitting on my own 100Mbit line
14:39 < |ynchmob> Eimann: sure
14:40 <+nouv> did we get anyone to host the asx file?
14:40 < theagent> comcast will host if I can get them a solid feed to look at
14:40 <@djbsquared> theagent: define host, and pm me
14:40 <@X15> theagent: Hmmm?
14:41 <+fr4nk> also any other pictures that should go into this other than the ones from http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
14:41 <@jnagro> whats that?
14:41 < theagent> I have VitalStream standing by to transcode and host this on their media streaming servers.... comcast is footing the bill
14:41 < Torg> cant you throw the .asx on NACAlex's 10gbit box?
14:41 <+fr4nk> the mirron mathx told me to download
14:41 <@djbsquared> we are waiting for NACAlex to get back
14:41 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: http://eimann.etherkiller.de/mirror-filled - Can you put a checkbox on the Page for the OS, the Linespeed (FastE, GigE) and The type of mirror?
14:41 <@djbsquared> theagent: pm me
14:41 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [-s+cnt] by ChanServ
14:41 <@Yog-home> heh..scanner just came back
14:42 <@jnagro> please mirror photos off east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ to conserve bandwidth
14:42 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: so the users can easily click on it, and so they can't do any mistakes filling this form
14:42 < kveton> where is the list of mirrors for photos?
14:42 < kveton> who is keeping that up-to-date?
14:42 < kveton> so far all of the sites i have been to are still dog slow
14:42 <@jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ is a mirror
14:42 <@jnagro> its pretty fast
14:42 <@jnagro> mirror off of it
14:43 < JrM|nt> i'm mirroring off it right now its fast
14:43 < |ynchmob> Eimann: sure gimmie a few and i'll have it up
14:43 <@X15> off what jr?
14:43 < JrM|nt> pix off jnagro
14:43 < JrM|nt> stil working on getting darwin up
14:44 < JrM|nt> so we can do video help
14:44 <@X15> ahh
14:44 <@djbsquared> X15: hold on, im working with theagent
14:44 <@jnagro> picture mirror: http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ rsync://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina
14:44 < darknessofevil99> hey im just curious... that's that OC3 isp/backbone provider that's holding up?
14:45 <@X15> Good
14:45 <+nouv> jnagro, do you have the latest pictures?
14:45 < darknessofevil99> i mean which isp is that
14:45 <@jnagro> nouv: yes
14:45 <@Yog-home> hrm..rsync isn't going
14:45 <@jnagro> rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
14:45 <@Yog-home> oh.. NM..it's working
14:46 <@Yog-home> forgot verbose mode :)
14:46 <@jebba> pictures available via rsync:   rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/
14:46 <@jnagro> darknessofevil99: were you asking me?
14:46 < PhiRatE> http://exorsus.net/app_results.php
14:46 < PhiRatE> will that do?
14:46 < darknessofevil99> yea
14:47 < PhiRatE> http://exorsus.net/mirror_application.php
14:47 < PhiRatE> dumps the results in that
14:47 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: you can take a look at the sample filled in: http://eimann.etherkiller.de/mirror-filled - should i forward u the mirror applications so u can test your form?
14:47 <@Eimann> PhiRatE: thanks, will check
14:47 <@jnagro> darknessofevil99: its a 100mbit connection supported by 6 or 7 top level providers
14:47 < `jarsonic> someone's requestiong the coll-sign ifo from the wiki
14:47 < `jarsonic> did that get mirrored?
14:47 < `jarsonic> or is it still WIP?
14:47 <@jnagro> `jarsonic: need a mirror?
14:47 < darknessofevil99> im curious which provider is actually active or is all the providers active right now?
14:47 < PhiRatE> If lynchmob makes a better form, he can just post to my save_app.php and it'll stick the results in the table
14:47 < mmead> sorry this is somewhat OT - is anyone here handling URLs of picture mirrors?
14:47 < `jarsonic> if you have an address, i'd like it  :)
14:47 < PhiRatE> that'd work well
14:47 <@X15> darknessofevil99: don't know dark, were working on mirroring the video right now
14:47 < Diorama> f
14:48 < KuDeTA> whats going on then
14:48 < KuDeTA> hows the video effort comming
14:48 <@X15> mmead: east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
14:48 <@jnagro> darknessofevil99: it routes over the best provider based on IP and the status
14:48 <@Yog-home> jnagro: internap ?
14:49 < darknessofevil99> you don't know exact provider? i just want to know the peering provider or isp providing such high uptime during times like this
14:49 < spstarr_work> AP: Huge oil spill spotted near storage tanks on Mississippi River downstream from New Orleans, state officials say. Details soon.
14:49 < mtmoore> Eimann: got the form/table builder for you when your ready
14:49 < spstarr_work> er
14:49 < spstarr_work> -> #chat wrong tab
14:49 < mmead> X15: right - I have a mirror set up of all pictures to date - should I notify anyone?
14:50 <@X15> The wiki will be back up real soon, just hang on abit mmead
14:51 < Torg> No, you dont' have the newest pics jnagro... they put more up this morning.
14:51 < mmead> X15: sure
14:51 <@Yog-home> hrm..they just called all aircraft to 'cloverleaf'
14:51 <@jnagro> off pictures.nola-intel.org?
14:51 < mmead> X15: can probably mirror shoutcast feed, too
14:51 < Torg> no, sigmund.biz
14:51 <@Eimann> mtmoore, PhiRatE, |ynchmob: If you can talk to each other, to merge the front-end of http://www.spherens.com/mirror.php + mysql + the table builder from mtmoore into one site- this would be really cool!
14:51 <@jnagro> Torg: link me to new content
14:52 < KuDeTA> ok guys
14:52 < |ynchmob> Eimann:  check http://www.spherens.com/mirror.php now
14:52 < Torg> http://sigmund.biz/kat200509012/
14:52 < Torg> I can't connect to it though.
14:52 <@Yog-home> jnagro: http://sigmund.biz.nyud.net:8090/kat200509012/index0005.html
14:52 < mtmoore> PhiRate, lynchmob: what can I do to help you all?
14:52 < KuDeTA> i have 1tb of bandiwth and 60gb of webspace on multiple OC's at a datacentre in london, ready for you
14:52 < KuDeTA> im setting up video streaming right now
14:53 < KuDeTA> but if u need it for anything else
14:53 < |ynchmob> Eimann: it is still set up to mail right now, can do the mysql if you've got the connection info
14:53 < KuDeTA> tell me
14:53 <@Yog-home> mike just blogged that he's going up to the roof to take more pictures :)
14:53 < KuDeTA> i can mirror photos/the wiki
14:53 < KuDeTA> anythign rele
14:53 <+nouv> yea, yog's got the newest link
14:53 <+nouv> jnagro: check interdictor's blog for updates to new pictures
14:53 <@Yog-home> 1:44 pm 	
14:53 <@Yog-home> Heading to the Roof
14:53 <@Yog-home> We're going to the roof for pics.
14:53 <@jnagro> nouv: okay, will have that mirrored in a moment
14:54 < PhiRatE> Eimann: Could you get 'em to join #interdict-forms if they haven't already?
14:54 <+nouv> awesome
14:54  * Yog-home is raping jnagro's mirror w/ rsync presently :)
14:54 < nonforma> someone should get that poor man a better gallery generator
14:54 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: That one looks good. but i saw, u better can use a liste where u can select which os u're using and which connection do you have. usually the mirror got only FE or GE, and only Linux or Windows. But it can mirror Pictures _and_ Audio. So multiple/single checkboxes for every point would be good
14:54 <@Yog-home> nonforma: yeh.. like.. gallery
14:54 < |ynchmob> ok
14:55 < PhiRatE> Is there a reason I can't see others in the channel talking? lynchmob for example?
14:55 <@jnagro> nouv: will be http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2/
14:55 < nonforma> probably easier on the bw to use something simple though, php pages would probably kill the server further
14:55 <@Yog-home> ahah
14:55 <@Yog-home> http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/34493580/506693
14:55 < hfx_ben> Q: could router be blocking my PM? (I can't msg out)
14:56 < PhiRatE> shit
14:56 < |ynchmob> Eimann: now the 'what to mirror' is checkboxes
14:56 <@Yog-home> haha.. i like nagin's comments
14:56 <@Yog-home> basically, shifting blame from his own lack of planning to the feds :)
14:56 <@X15> hfx_ben: You have to register with the server /msg nickerv help register
14:56 <@Eimann> |ynchmob: ahh! cute :)
14:57 < hfx_ben> x15 registered yesterday
14:57 < hfx_ben> oh ... every time?
14:57 <@Eimann> |ynchmob, mtmoore: go to #interdict-forms please, there is lesser traffic than in this channel
14:57 <@Yog-home> ooh.. schumi lost it in parabolica
14:57 <@X15> hfx_ben: /msg nickerv help identify
14:57 < hfx_ben> ich ... thought it was sticky
14:58 < paradox> I have a server on multiple T3's.... do you still need more mirrors?
14:58 <@X15> hfx_ben: only if your netmask dosn't change
14:58 <@X15> paradox: PM me the details
14:58 < hfx_ben> duh 'course ... tu
14:58 <@X15> Company, T3s, and such
14:58 <@jnagro> X15: ya know i have crazy providers
14:58 <@jnagro> 100mb
14:58 < hfx_ben> help
14:58 <@X15> jnagro: just 100? :)
14:58 < hfx_ben> ach
14:58 <@jnagro> X15: on that one box
14:58 <@jnagro> X15: 12 providers
14:59 <@X15> PM me details that i can use to confirm it
14:59 < Halcyon> any working mirrors?
14:59 <@jnagro> picture mirror: http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ rsync://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina
14:59 <@X15> note yet Haly
14:59 < Catonic_wk> ok, waht do I need to swtup a mirror of the video feed?
14:59 < Halcyon> kk
14:59 < Catonic_wk> have FreeBSD boxes and a DS1
14:59 <@X15> See topic Catonic
14:59 < Catonic_wk> sry
15:00 <@Yog-home> DS1 .. hmmm
15:00 <@Eimann> Anyone got a clue how-to setup DSS for Relaying?
15:00 <@Yog-home> 1.5mbits...maybe a web server :)
15:00 <@djbsquared> Eimann: talk to Nac-paradox
15:00 < theagent> http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/faq.html
15:00 <@Yog-home> oh.. it is an apple product
15:00 < bootnet2> x15 ... still need that asx hosted?
15:01 < theagent> Darwin Streaming Server = Quicktime Streaming Server
15:01 <@X15> Were looking at help from Comcast but PM me details of your setup
15:01 < geekboi> FYI, the tech_faq.txt needs to be updated with accurate info for BitchX
15:01 < geekboi> It's 6 I/0 V/3 F/0]                                                               [U:a:S:b:h]
15:01 < geekboi> [#interdictor-tech] /ignore #interdictor-scanner JOINS PARTS QUITS
15:01 < Catonic_wk> ok, will talk to someone with more than I have
15:01 < geekboi> woops. Just /ignore #interdictor-scanner JOINS PARTS QUITS
15:02 < mct> jnagro: is there a need for mirrors at the moment?
15:02 <@djbsquared> Eimann: how are we with the video streaming?
15:02 < Cloak> What are we using as the official source to update our mirrors from?
15:02 <@jnagro> mct: X15 would know more
15:03 <@jnagro> mct: i think photos are covered
15:03 < CDrewing> http://video.freevideoblog.com/no2.asx
15:03 < mct> Okay.
15:03 < TheRoame1> where do I get the pic file to set up a mirror? Have an oc3 gentoo box
15:03 < icculus> picture mirror, rsync'd from jnagro's server: http://nola-intel.icculus.org/photos/
15:03 <@jnagro> picture mirror: http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ rsync://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina
15:03 <@Yog-home> TheRoame1: just rsync it
15:04 <@Eimann> djbsquared: i need someone with clue about dss. then we're ready and can stream with to boxes
15:04 <@djbsquared> alright
15:04 < KuDeTA> i ahve 3 servers ready to go
15:04 < KuDeTA> tell me when
15:04 < KuDeTA> :)
15:04 <@djbsquared> KuDeTA: what do you know about DSS?
15:04 < KuDeTA> deep sub space?
15:04 < KuDeTA> ive never been there
15:04 <@Yog-home> jnagro: how big are all these pics ?
15:05 <@jnagro> Yog-home: big
15:05 < KuDeTA> but i heard from the guy on star trek its cool
15:05 <@Yog-home> jnagro: can u do a du -sh on it ?
15:05 <@jnagro> 1.3gb
15:05 <@djbsquared> KuDeTA: if you are just here to waste my time then leave
15:05 < mmead> 1522896 websites/interdictor-mirror
15:05  * Yog-home only has 6.7GB free where he's rsyncing
15:05  * PhiRatE adds that to the faq
15:05 <@Yog-home> mmead: toss a -h in there :)
15:06 < mmead> 1.5G
15:06 <@jnagro> the fire pics are comming down
15:06 <@Yog-home> heh.. I have 1/3rd :)
15:06 < theagent> Eimann, see the section of the FAQ from DSS where it says... Q. What is the reflector, and how does it work?
15:06 <@jnagro> will be at http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2/
15:06 < mmead> Yog-home: that is both first pics + fire pics
15:06 < mmead> http://interdictor-mirror.dyndns.org/pictures/
15:06 <@Yog-home> jnagro: those rsync dirs are just images, or the html w/ comments too ?
15:06 <@Eimann> theagent: thanks
15:06 < KuDeTA> so can sombody summarize where we are at with the video now
15:07 < matrix> has anyone contacted the dudes at easynews?
15:07 < mmead> fire has no html yet, at least what's being passed around
15:07 < matrix> they have mega pipes
15:07 < KuDeTA> we have application to stream, check??
15:07 <@jnagro> Yog-home: its the web root, so that hs the html too
15:07 <@Yog-home> ah ok
15:07 < KuDeTA> we have master servers organised, check?
15:07 <@Yog-home> so far i've only seen JPGs come across
15:07 <@Yog-home> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (429240489 bytes read so far)
15:07 <@Yog-home> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(151)
15:07 <@Yog-home> :(
15:07 < mmead> is there a speedy html gen program to make a quick set of pages?
15:08 <@jnagro> rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina2
15:08 < Cloak> heh, same here
15:08 <@jnagro> sorry, cycled the rsync server
15:08  * Yog-home starts it up again
15:08 <@jnagro> both versions
15:08 <@Yog-home> jnagro: HOW DARE YOU!
15:08 <@jnagro> fire is comming down, not yet complete
15:08 <@Yog-home> ;-)
15:08 < Torg> Thankfully, rsync won't copy the stff you already got =)
15:08 < dk3> I'd like to mirror the site/feeds, 100gig connection avail. Please PM me.
15:08 <@Yog-home> that's what's great about rsync.. start off where u left off easily :)
15:08 < asmith> I'll mesg some apple people and see if I can get them join and help out with DSS
15:08 < ianneub> do we need any DNS hosting? for round robin DNS?
15:08 < Halcyon> does that livejournal webpage have css feeds?
15:08 <+fr4nk> ok zipslit isnt liking the size of the files another 2 min and have it here and i'll use winzip
15:08 <@jebba> rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/
15:08 < spectros> rsync is awesome
15:08 < Halcyon> err rss
15:08 < Inaki> I'm having a unix newbie moment
15:09 < m242> I don't know why you're setting up all sorts of mirrors for the photos, when CoralCache takes care of that just fine.
15:09 < Inaki> what command do I need to make rsync work?
15:09 <@Yog-home> yeh.. tridge did a good job
15:09 < Inaki> (running debian)
15:09 <@jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2/ rsync://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ rsync://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2/
15:09 <@jnagro> katrina2 is still ebing mirrored
15:09 < dk3> I'd like to mirror the site/feeds, 100gig connection avail. Please PM me.
15:09 < emagdnim> I unfortunately can’t use rsync as I don’t have access to ssh. I have however uploaded the traball to my webserver. Its photo overkill, for sure.
15:10 < PhiRatE> added to faq
15:10 < jd33021> on the faq at http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt - the build wrapper referenced at the bottom is actually "./Buildit"
15:10 < moonwick> I'll set up a mirror once we start tracking them
15:10 < moonwick> otherwise, this seems kinda silly :)
15:11 < moonwick> hell, I'd be willing to manage mirrors
15:11 < Catonic_wk> gee, someone should talk akamai into hosting this for free..
15:11 <@djbsquared> Catonic_wk: know anyone at akamai?
15:12 < Houston> Is this site streaming your video?
15:12 < Houston> http://video.freevideoblog.com/neworleans/index.htm
15:12 < Houston> i think it is
15:12 < Catonic_wk> nope. :(
15:12 < theagent> the video reflectors need something agnostic from a format standpoint.  WMA3 from the camera host will limit our ability
15:13 < lexi__> so what's up with nola-intel.org?
15:13 < Roamer1> hmm don't know much about rsync... I typed rsync (link) in the terminal, it cycled through all the jpgs, but I'm not sure where they went to
15:14 <@djbsquared> Houston: it appears taht way
15:14 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+v lexi__] by Eimann
15:14 < theagent> I keep asking about the camera host but have not received an answer.  What is this connected to?
15:14 <@jebba> Roamer1, man rsync
15:14 < Houston> direct feed:  http://video.freevideoblog.com/no2.asx
15:14 <+lexi__> so what's up with nola-intel.org?
15:14 < Cloak> getting hammered I would guess
15:15 < nonforma> probably got smashed
15:15 < Cloak> jnagro: any idea what the end of this series is?
15:15 < Torg> it's up, but the wiki is static now... linkage: http://www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
15:16 <@jnagro> Cloak: please be more verbose
15:16 < Cloak> just curious how many more pics are left. appears to be up to 94 now
15:16 <+lexi__> wiki.nola-intel.org seems removed from zone, www times out.. any status info? is someone after that at all?
15:16 < Mongo1> http://video.freevideoblog.com/no2.asx already peaked :\
15:16 <@jnagro> Cloak: its a slow connection, not suer whats left
15:17 <@jnagro> once it all comes down, keeping it up to day only requires downloading the delta
15:17 < Cloak> no prob, just wondering
15:17 <@jnagro> use my mirror if you can, save bandwidth
15:17 < Cloak> yeah that's what I'm doing now. I'm updating mine off yours
15:17 < Torg> Yeah, according to the main channel, wiki.nola-intel.org is being worked on, and will be back up shortly.
15:17 <+lexi__> ah yeah.. some status: http://nola-intel.org.nyud.net:8090/
15:17 < Bluelive> great job, vid feeds seems crisp
15:18  * Ryan- is reading faq to setup mirrors now
15:18 < Torg> I can load the link I pasted though, so it's not a total failure.
15:18 <+lexi__> any effort on setting up mirror servers for nola-intel.org?
15:18 <@jnagro> we should RR dns nola-intel.org
15:18 <@jnagro> i can provide a mirror
15:18 <+fr4nk> anyone around who can test a torrent?
15:18 < RatOmeter> yep
15:19 < Torg> I thought NACAlex was hosting that site.  He should have enough bandwidth.
15:19 < YourSwedishDaddy> Sure.
15:19 < nonforma> fr4nk: sure
15:19 < DocJelly_> i can
15:19 <+fr4nk> i would use my box, but i cant use bt here
15:19 < x222943> download?
15:19 < Jurian> fr4nk: sure
15:19 < RatOmeter> fr4nk: yes, let's see the link
15:19 < DocJelly_> im at work, but I can RDP to home where my BT is opened
15:19 < ianneub> fr4nk: i can
15:19 < Shoragan_> fr4nk, sure
15:19 < ianneub> fr4nk: wheres the .torrent?
15:19 < theagent> this is painful... where are we with videocam reflector system?
15:19 < BrianAtDynDNS> fr4nk - I can test a DL of one....
15:19 < Kremit> fr4nk: sure, what torrent
15:19 <+lexi__> jnagro, ACK.. i think there are several other who can provide mirrors.. set up squids?
15:19 < Bluelive> i could try, but im on low bgandwidth
15:20 < KuDeTA> i can
15:20 < CajunTechie> Hello everyone. Is this where those interested in donating mirror space need to come?
15:20 < JrM|nt> our picture mirror is now fully sync'd and online  http://medusa.transedge.com
15:20 < KuDeTA> but can't we use mirrordot?
15:20 <@X15> the agent, if you have the capacity you gotta om me
15:20 < JrM|nt> still working on video
15:20 <+cfm> Fr4nk: GOt a link?
15:20 <@X15> Yes CajunTechie
15:20 < CajunTechie> Cool. I'm interested
15:20 < neek> fr4nk: sure.
15:20 < Inaki> I can RR mirror too
15:21 < PhiRatE> For those after pictures, repeat of message in -rmoor, http://exorsus.net/interdictor_pictures.php and http://exorsus.net/interdictor_pictures2.php
15:21 < theagent> X15, I'm at saturation with nothing to offer from bw standpoint.   I do have comcast looking at existing feed.  Waiting for commitment from them
15:21 < PhiRatE> are doing randomised redirects across the two currently available mirrors
15:21 < theagent> I have a social network to offer.... not a physical one
15:21 < x222943> if torrent works i can seed if needed
15:21 < Torg> wth is going on in -chat?  They are doing !cams like crazy.
15:21 <+lexi__> Anybody knows contact for the nola-intel.org techs? nickname, email?
15:21 < CajunTechie> Is there a place to go for details on HOW to setup mirrors of the feeds?
15:22 < bipto> fr4nk: i can test a torrent
15:22 < theagent> nola-intel.org techs are all here
15:22 <@jnagro> theagent: we can mirror it
15:22 <@jnagro> theagent: i can offer a mirror if you wanna RR DNS
15:22 < theagent> I don't control the DNS...  djbsquared might
15:22 < ianneub> If you need DNS hosting for RR let me know
15:22 < BrianAtDynDNS> lexi__: - Check with mathy
15:23 < Inaki> okay photos mirrored
15:23 < Inaki> www.dreamchaos.net/katrina/
15:23 < Cloak> sounds like a good idea to me, I'd be happy to help out with that
15:23 < PhiRatE> does anyone have a mirror of pictures3 ?
15:23 < theagent> I'm a long time CIO/CTO, I can help with organization, milestones etc.  Use me as a facilitator if needed
15:24 < bennyfactor> I just saw something in #interdictor that there is progress beingmade on bring back the nola=intel wiki
15:24 < Subground> Has anyone tried to peercast the video feed?
15:24 < bennyfactor> maybe that's why the thing is down right now
15:25 < theagent> but I am hands-on regarding my understanding of all this...  in other words.. not just a desk jockey
15:25 < Catonic_wk> yeah, I'll be glad to mirror a website
15:26 < bennyfactor> <mathy> WIKI is still coming up stay tuned.
15:26 <+cfm> Could an op change topic in #interdictor-mirror to direct people here please?
15:28 <@Eimann> i don't know what to add as relay testion, i only entered a dest-mountpoint, but it don't work
15:29 < eMoose> I can do a squid-based mirror, and I've done large squid mirror implementations before.
15:29 <@jnagro> eMoose: mirror mine
15:29 <@jnagro> eMoose: taht'd be great
15:29 <@X15> eMoose: Details please, PM me
15:29 <+fr4nk> someone test a torrent for me please of the pictures?
15:30 < eMoose> jnagro: whatcha want me to mirror?
15:30 < DocJelly_> fr4nk: link?
15:30 < x222943> fr4nk: url
15:30 < eMoose> X15: let me get a working mirror of jnagro's up and running, and I'll send you the config file, and you'll see how easy it is. :-)
15:30 <@jnagro> eMoose: talk to X15 and then think about east-boston.utopus.net/katrina and /katrina2
15:30 < Jurian> fr4nk: sure, url?
15:30 <@djbsquared> Eimann: almost ready?
15:30 < Kremit> fr4nk: what's the URL?
15:30 < eMoose> jnagro: ok.
15:30 <@jnagro> PhiRatE: i will do pictures3 if i can find a mirror to grab an initial load off, i linke nola-intel.org is down
15:30 < JasonF> did someone say mirror?
15:30 < theagent> Eimann, is having configuration problems
15:30 < Magik> is there a master shoutcast server to mirror?
15:30 <@Eimann> djbsquared: not yet, i can't get this relay working :/
15:30 <@jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2
15:31 < PhiRatE> jnagro: k
15:31 < CajunTechie> I'd like to mirror the feed. Where can I grab it?
15:31 < theagent> I will ask again.... what is the host we're connecting to?  A laptop with the cam?
15:31 <@X15> eMoose: we talking images or movie?
15:31 <+cfm> fr4nk: Please post the link
15:31 <+fr4nk> http://atwork.tehcrew.com/pictures_01.zip.torrent
15:31 <@X15> Eimann: Send me the info if you can please
15:31 <+fr4nk> sorry i pmed it to you
15:31 < eMoose> X15: images, squid will do static content only.
15:31 <@X15> Images are pretty coverd
15:31 <+fr4nk> oh i see i ahve to register
15:31 < senex> Can I mirror any pictures?  I have excellent connection at work.
15:31 < JasonF> What specs do you need for a server to be worthwhile?
15:32 <@jnagro> senex: mirror off me
15:32 < Ol_Blue> how large is this video stream ?
15:32 <@jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2
15:32 <@djbsquared> JasonF: its more about the bandiwth
15:32 <@jebba> JasonF, need 100Mbit+
15:32 <@X15> 100mbit/s+ for video
15:32 < eMoose> X15: ok, I'm not set up to do streams at all.
15:32 < paradox> X15, I PMed you before, do you not need addition mirrors for the video feeds?
15:32 < Ol_Blue> duh - reading the readme...
15:32 <@djbsquared> plus unlimited transfer
15:32 <+cfm> fr4nk: Okay, that's downloading at about 6Kbps
15:32 <@jnagro> X15: i msged you before about my abilities, lemme know if i can help
15:32 < Falken> xi5: Okay, I can only do them, serious bandwidth but Linux host, so wmv not pos.
15:32 < JasonF> djbsquared: I got a fat pipe, but only about 100gigs of total transfer
15:32 <@djbsquared> paradox: what do you have to offer
15:32 < shogun> torrent's going
15:32 <@jnagro> i will be back in an hour or so
15:32 <@jnagro> djbsquared: op me when i come back online
15:32 < x222943> fr4nk: pulled 3.03 kB/s here
15:32 < paradox> I have a linux box just sitting on a connection with multiple T3's
15:32 < Ol_Blue> Damn, I only have a 2 terra server. Im too small to mirror I think :/ sorry to have wasted your time
15:32 <@jebba> shogun, torrent of what? What's the URL?
15:32 <@jnagro> X15: ope me when i come back online
15:32 <@djbsquared> jnagro: k
15:32 < Jurian> torrent is active, speed going up
15:32 < Magik> I can do images and/or a shoutcast relay
15:33 < shogun> pictures
15:33 <+cfm> fr4nk: It's increasing steadily, looks like a good torrent
15:33 < paradox> but it is idle and doing nothing
15:33 <@X15> Falken: Darwin Streaming Server
15:33 <+fr4nk> ok good
15:33 < shogun> jebba: http://atwork.tehcrew.com/pictures_01.zip.torrent
15:33 < Kremit> fr4nk: yea it works here too
15:33 < eMoose> X15: I'll set up a squid mirror for you anyway and send you the config so you can see how easy it is.
15:33 <+fr4nk> hmm pushing slow
15:33 <+lexi__> Again: Anybody knows a contact person for nola-intel.org?
15:33 < superdan> Registered folks can "/msg nickserv set unfiltered on" to be able to receive /msg traffic from unregistered users, in case nobody's mentioned it yet. :)
15:33 <@jebba> shogun, ok, /me seeding
15:33 < Falken> x15: sorry, no, freebsd. If you need more image space, shout :-)
15:33 < theagent> WHAT IS THE SOURCE for the video feed?   Laptop running what OS?
15:34  * jnagro waves
15:34 < jnagro> me back on screen
15:34 <+fr4nk> ok i'll throw up 2-13
15:34 < jnagro> would love op back
15:34 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o jnagro] by djbsquared
15:34 < RatOmeter> fr4nk: getting it at 22k, you want me to leave it up indefinitely?
15:34 < shogun> there, that's what I'm talking about
15:34 < Torg> Lexi_  I was under the impression that NACAlex ran that site.
15:34 < kngfisher21> will seed as soon as it finishes
15:34 <@jnagro> i will be back witin the hour
15:34 <+fr4nk> seed going down for a sec
15:34 < shogun> heh, my  upload speed dropped...can't believe I got found out already
15:34 < shogun> oh, or that
15:35 < Qwijib0_Work> what's the minimum number of clients you want on a video mirror?
15:35 < CajunTechie> Well, guess nobody needs a mirror of the video feed. I've asked four times already and nobody can actually take the time to answer. I'm out. IF anyone wants to give me an answer please feel free to message me on ICQ at 96-698-595
15:35  * Ryan- slaps this DSS installer
15:35 < DocJelly_> ok, coming down, fr4nk. I'll be seeding it shortly
15:36 < shogun> damn, behold the power of bittorrent
15:36 < kngfisher21> ok
15:36 < x222943> seeding.. 1449.47 kB/s up
15:37 < RatOmeter> fr4nk: I got up to 1Gb/s to the net here (OC3 to the backbone, not sure what's between me and that, though), so I'll leave BT up for ya
15:38 <@djbsquared> Eimann: you getting the help you need?
15:38 <+nouv> i had to step away for a bit
15:38 < shogun> (fine, it was really fast for a bit t here and damn it, I don't often get speeds like that!)
15:38 <+nouv> do we know that http://video.freevideoblog.com/no2.asx is down?
15:38 <@Eimann> djbsquared: jep, X15 is helping me
15:39 < neek> nouv: still working for me.
15:39 < theagent> someone stick DSS on the machine with the camera on it
15:39 <@jebba> shogun, you just have a torrent of pics 01 ?
15:40 <@djbsquared> Eimann: awesome
15:40 < shogun> fr4nk? ===^
15:40 < Insanity4> I have 4-5 megabits of b/w if you need it :)
15:41 <@djbsquared> Insanity4: thanks, but thats not really much
15:41 <@Eimann> Updates on the networkstatus in NOLA:
15:41 <@Eimann> from NANOG:
15:41 <@Eimann> Officials at Cingular Wireless LLC, Verizon Wireless, Sprint Corp. and
15:41 <@Eimann> BellSouth Corp. reported separately at noon today that with flooding and
15:41 <@Eimann> power outages in New Orleans, crews can't access cellular sites and
15:41 < kwantam> what needs mirroring?
15:41 <@Eimann> switching stations for repairs. Sprint.s crews are waiting in Baton Rouge,
15:41 <@Eimann> La., until officials say it's safe to enter New Orleans, a spokesman said.
15:42 < theagent> backup plan, float a few blimps over the city with WiMax
15:42 < Houston> To those that sent me PMs: I can't send PM's the live news feed is http://unigrep.com/nola.asx (CNN/FOX) you can use it for viewing or testing stream mirroring
15:42 < theagent> Blimp/MESH network
15:42 < `jarsonic> i have the latest text of the wiki before it went down, if anyone's interested.
15:43 < bipto> fr4nk: getting the torrent fine at 35 kB/s
15:43 < `jarsonic> well, for the radio codes.
15:44 <@speakit> http://nola.blagblagblag.org/sigmund.biz.nyud.net:8090/kat200509012/  << complete mirror
15:44 <+fr4nk> ok i have to run to class, http://atwork.tehcrew.com/pictures_01.zip.torrent <-> pictures_13.zip.torrent are up
15:45 <@speakit> Downloaded: 342,648,256 bytes in 2133 files
15:45 < F-geek> yay yorrent.
15:45 <+fr4nk> i have a seed up
15:45 <@djbsquared> Eimann: once you get something up, let mathx know please
15:45 <+fr4nk> thought more seeders will be nice
15:45 <@djbsquared> ill be back later probably
15:45 <+cfm> I'll get them seeding, fr4nk
15:45 < YourSwedishDaddy> seedin coming up.
15:45 < DocJelly_> I'll be seeding in approx 5 mins, fr4nk
15:45 < F-geek> ill leave it seeding when i get it myself
15:46 <+fr4nk> np
15:46 <+fr4nk> i'll throw up a small page to link to them when i get back
15:46 <+fr4nk> be an hour or so
15:46 -djbsquared:#interdictor-tech- Any credible mirrors please talk to X15, all running server info to mathy.
15:46 <+nouv> does anyone have direct contact with interdictor?  it'd be nice to change the picture links on his blog to a cache instead of nola-intel.org
15:46 < kngfisher21> grabbing the torrent right now...once that is done, will set the 3 systems i have to seed
15:47 < djspark> http://wiki.nola-intel.com/config/index.php is currently open to public
15:47 < Magik> Is there a shoutcast relay available to mirror?
15:47 < Torg> Donny does in the main chan.
15:47 < Inaki> http://www.atypical.net/mm/nagin.mp3
15:47 < frostbite> what do you mean change to a cache
15:48 < Baylink> SATELLITE IP posting on LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/45200.html?thread=2750096#t2750096
15:48 < PhiRatE> we have two rediretors to mirrors et up for that purpose, but no way of getting them on the front page :) oh well :)
15:48 < addp009> guys, there is a new way of feeding a live feed to millions of people using P2P technology
15:48 < `jarsonic> nouv:  talk to donny in #interdictor
15:48 < addp009> It is call SopCast
15:48 < SEWilco> Is there a distributed HTTP cache which people could join who have the pictures torrent?
15:49 < Cloak> I'm redoing my pic mirrors now so I can get them into a round robin to match everyone else's
15:49 < roo9> http://video.freevideoblog.com/no2.asx is returning a 404
15:50 < MVA> directnic folks: our streaming co can relay WMS streams for you
15:51 < senex> I'm making a mirror at http://shlang.com/katrina/
15:51 < MVA> i mean, we can carry the whole thing, we've got around 13 gigabits now; but the feed needs to be clean and it needs to work
15:51 < kwantam> X15: I have bandwidth and space to mirror.  Let me know what needs mirroring.  Grabbing the sigmund.biz.nyud.net/kat200509012 stuff now; is there anything else?
15:51 < MVA> who can i talk to about this?
15:51 < Dark-Fx> fr4nk: I can't get on those torrents.
15:52 < theagent> I give up....  there is NO way it takes this long to get the wiki up somewhere else with a DNS RR fronting it.
15:52 <+cfm> Page that links to the torrent files: http://www.padcroft.org/pictures_torrents.html
15:52 < PhiRatE> added to faq
15:52 <+nouv> does that have the newest set of pictures?
15:52 < Dark-Fx> cfm: I downloaded all the .torrent files, but I can't get on the tracker.
15:52 <+nouv> pictures3
15:52  * Al_Berto_ seeding
15:53 < theroamer> anyone know the linux command to show the full path of a folder your in?
15:53 < SEWilco> 13 sets of pictures there.
15:53 <+cfm> It's the torrents that fr4nk set up
15:53 < shogun> nouv: There are 13 sets
15:53 <+lexi__> what type of mirrors is needed most currently?
15:53 < senex> I am mirroring off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/.  Should I mirror anything else?
15:53 < Dark-Fx> I blame my university.
15:53 < PhiRatE> I believe pictures3 has been inaccessible due to the current load on the main site.
15:53 < Baylink> Did anyone at Crystal copy my link above?
15:53 <+nouv> video
15:54 <+nouv> that's the hardest thing to come by
15:54 < paradox12> I am installing Darwin now
15:54 < paradox12> ...
15:54 <@jebba> PhiRatE, I'm serving up pics3 with my torrent seed
15:54 < DocJelly_> i picked up the torrents, im already seeding 01
15:54 < senex> nouv: does the video feed need to be streamed or can I just serve it over HTTP?  Where do I get it?
15:54 < PhiRatE> if someone could get pics3 onto a mirror as an html/image tree we can add itto the redirectors
15:55 < AgentIcarus> What are you looking for people to mirror? I'd like to help
15:55 < addp009> nouv, are you incharge of the live feed?
15:55 < paradox12> Once darwin is finished building and installed.... who should I talk to?
15:55 < theroamer> anyone have the rsync link?
15:56 <+cfm> Anyone able to connect to fr4nk's torrents?  I'm seeding pictures_01.zip but cannot connect to the rest
15:56 < toomuch> i'm getting 03
15:56 < Al_Berto_> yes, i'm downloading 2-5, 11, 13 atm
15:56 <@jebba> cfm, I was able to connect to all of them
15:56 < DocJelly_> yes Ive got the rest coming down now
15:58 <+cfm> jebba: Can you connect to them now?  http://atwork.tehcrew.com/pictures_02.zip.torrent for example
15:58 < djspark> yes, but be careful, it's directing public to http://wiki.nola-intel.com/config/index.php is currently open to public which is a security problem....
15:58 <@jebba> cfm yes
15:58 < eMoose> I have a squid mirror set up of http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ at http://216.83.31.61/katrina/
15:58 < Jurian> I'm connected to all of them, altho 13 is saying problem connecting to tracker
15:58 < Jurian> they're all active though
15:59 < eMoose> .html set to cache for 30 minutes, .jpg/.gif etc set to cache for 10 days.
15:59 < theroamer> can i get an rsync link from someone?
15:59 < L337dexter> hey....do we still need a wiki?
15:59 < addp009> who should i contact to provide a mirror?
15:59 <+cfm> Odd
15:59 < TheBadAstronomer> folks, hello. I want to help. I have disk space and bandwidth on my site. What can i do?
16:00 < L337dexter> hey guys, do we still need a wiki?
16:00 < achen> is help still required for a url grabber?
16:00 -!- Eimann changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | READ ME: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt | Use http://www.spherens.com/mirror.php for mirror application
16:01 < amarin> checkout instant mirroring at www.corelcdn.org
16:01 <@speakit> theroamer: rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/
16:02 <+nouv> who's maintaining the website?
16:02 <+nouv> er the faq
16:02 < PhiRatE> me
16:02 < senex> What is at rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/?
16:02 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+oo PhiRatE X15] by Eimann
16:02 < TheBadAstronomer> crap. I am nowhere near bandwidth-suficient to help out then
16:02 < nopnine0> do you mean the nola-intel.org site?
16:02 <+cfm> jebba: Ah, sorted thanks.  Config issue at my end - oops.
16:02 <@PhiRatE> tnx eimann
16:03 <@speakit> current changing contnet of http://nola.blagblagblag.org/
16:03 < cyphase> Katrina Public Web Project Wants Volunteers - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1855469,00.asp
16:04 <@jebba> senex, just photos at the moment. But it can be rsync'd, which is easier for some
16:04 <@Eimann> warghs. this fscking dss doesn't relay the stream :-/
16:04 <@Eimann> relay-status is empty
16:04 <@Eimann> X15 is working on it
16:05 < theagent> Eimann, its not going to work with the existing WMA stream... nobody is listening to me
16:05 < jd33021> vlc relays the stream just fine
16:05 <@Eimann> $coworker said, DSS only relays Quicktime and MPEG4
16:05 <@Eimann> theagent: ok
16:05 <@jebba> jd33021, how did you set up vlc? Some docs on that would be very handy
16:05 <@Eimann> theagent: thanks :)
16:06 < jd33021> here's the command line i used.. just tested it off one of the published stream mirrors
16:06 < cyphase> you guys having trouble viewing the strem?
16:06 < cyphase> stream*
16:06 < jd33021>  vlc  -vvv http://old.mises.org:88/NO --sout '#std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=your.server:8080'
16:06 < theagent> if we switch to mpeg4 DSS will even transcode to 3GP for cellphone access via GPRS etc
16:06 < jd33021> then in windows media player, File | Open URL .. http://your.server:8080
16:07 <@jebba> jd33021, thanks. testing now
16:07 < jd33021> seemed to work ok but the stream was intermittent, which I can only guess is because mises is getting hammered
16:08 <@Eimann> jd33021: thanks, we're trying this now
16:09 <+lexi__> any chance to download DSS from apple.com with lynx?
16:09 < `jarsonic> am i not seeing all of the traffic in this channel?  I see references to people i can't see writing  ;)
16:10 < Al_Berto_> http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/streaming/release/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
16:10 < theagent> lexi__, don't know if that'll work...
16:11 < theagent> I haven't touched lynx for 10 years
16:11 <@PhiRatE> Balanced picture mirrors: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_picture_mirrors.php
16:11 < RatOmeter> arg, the BT client only does 3 torrents at a time.  Can anyone suggest another client?
16:11 < kwantam> mirror of photos up
16:11 < kwantam> http://web.mit.edu/rsw/Public/kat200509012/
16:12 <@PhiRatE> kwantam: can I add that to the balancer?
16:12 < paradox12> lexi__: wget http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
16:12 < bipto> wget http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
16:12 < Catonic_wk> lexi__: not that I've seen
16:12 < Cloak> PhiRatE: once I'm done mirroring here, who do I talk to about cycling in
16:12 < kwantam> please.
16:12 < Catonic_wk> RTFtopic and one of the pages has a link to it direct
16:12 < macmouse> lexi__: in the faq, they have a direct link
16:12 <@PhiRatE> Cloak: if you're mirroring photos via the rsync or http things, me, but in either case, fillin the forms linked from the FAQ
16:12 <+lexi__> here is some info about vlc: http://viz.aset.psu.edu/ga5in/StreamingMedia.html
16:12 < moonwick> PhiRatE: you can add http://64.5.58.145/mirror/katrina/ and katrina2/ to that
16:13 < Cloak> yeah I'm doing an rsync to replace the ones I had done earlier
16:13 <@PhiRatE> moonwick: thanks
16:13 < eMoose> mirrors of http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina at http://216.83.31.61/katrina, if you want to set up mirroring via squid contact me at dinn@moose.to
16:13 < theagent> lexi__, we don't need to add VLC to this problem
16:13 < jd33021> vlc's own documentation is pretty helpful as well: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch04.html
16:13 < hfx_ben> Is eimann around? get him to add http://nola-intel.com/ to SmokePink Latency.
16:13 < Baylink> Did anyone at Camp Crystak copy my pointer of someone's offer of Satellite IP connectivity from the LJ?
16:13 <@PhiRatE> moonwick: done
16:13 < theagent> we need to concentrate on a single solution with the largest available deployment
16:13 <@Eimann> hfx_ben: mom, will do
16:13 < Baylink> SATELLITE IP posting on LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/45200.html?thread=2750096#t2750096
16:13 < hfx_ben> hey dewd ... great
16:14 < theagent> how are we doing with adding DSS to that source computer with the camera?
16:14 < Cloak> PhiRatE, I have too many windows open, what is the link to the faq?
16:14 < theagent> actually we just need Broadcaster which comes with DSS
16:14 < theroamer> can someone help me with the correct syntax I need to use for rsync. is it rsync rsync://address /destination?
16:14 <@PhiRatE> http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
16:15 <@PhiRatE> theroamer: command line as in the faq
16:15 < theroamer> k, thx
16:15 <@PhiRatE> just change dir to the destination, then run it
16:15 < ianneub> Suggestion: Wouldn't it be better to have a single torrent instead of 12?
16:15 < theroamer> gotcha.. thanks
16:16 < Plaid> wacky webcam action
16:17 < Cloak> ok filled it out and sent it PhiRatE
16:17 < hfx_ben> k ... must must must dash
16:17 <@PhiRatE> Cloak: cool. What's the url?
16:17 < blutarski> did nola-intel just hose out?
16:18 < Cloak> http://paintedover.com/katrina/
16:18 < theroamer> ok, I typed the rsync command like it says in the faq, it listed a bunch of jpg's but the directory I was in is still empty
16:18 < Inaki> PhiRatE: I have mirrors up as well.. www.dreamchaos.net/katrina/
16:18 < Cloak> that has all 3 under it
16:18 <@PhiRatE> k, I'll ink straight in
16:18 < theagent> how are we doing with adding DSS to that source computer with the camera?
16:19 < Inaki> www.dreamchaos.net/katrina/main/ and www.dreamchaos.net/katrina/fire/ I should say ;>
16:19 < emagdnim> Is there a public stream for the scanners?
16:19 <@PhiRatE> Thanks Inanki, can't really use those without the html unfortunately :/
16:19 < Inaki> oh hmm
16:20 <@PhiRatE> appreciated tho :)
16:20 < Inaki> is there a quick command line I can use for rsync?
16:20 <@PhiRatE> rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
16:20 <@PhiRatE> in the dir you wanna dump in
16:20 < Inaki> okay trying that now
16:21 < Cloak> does anyone else have these mirrored yet? http://sigmund.biz.nyud.net:8090/kat200509012/index0005.html
16:21 < Inaki> hmm running that seems to just dump a list?
16:21 < Cris`> may need to do rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina/*
16:21 < Cris`> depending on the rsync version you have
16:21 < senex> OK, I have complete set of katrina and katrina2.  Is there anything else I can mirror without a streaming server?
16:21 < moonwick> hey, phirate, might I suggest you change that command line to be rsync -r --times east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
16:21 < dantekgeek> Suggestion: remove the backgrounds on the gallery pages, it should reduce bandwidth load
16:21 < senex> http://shlang.com/
16:22 <@PhiRatE> moonwick: roger
16:22 < Sheyla> gah, lost connection.  I'm back, and ready to transcribe in -scanner
16:22 <@PhiRatE> dant: it's not really significant, individual mirrors can do it if they need to tho
16:22 < Inaki> okay I'm getting intermitant messages here
16:22 < theagent> how are we doing with adding DSS to that source computer with the camera?
16:22 < Inaki> like broken convos
16:22 <@PhiRatE> moonwick: added to the faq. thanks
16:22 < OvrLrdQ> PhiRatE: that doesn't work on mah system :|
16:22 < dantekgeek> k
16:23 <@PhiRatE> OverLrd: what kinda response you getting? just a list?
16:23 < OvrLrdQ> gives me a nice list of files but no actually copyage :)
16:23 <@PhiRatE> Ovr: did you try moonwicks?
16:23 < OvrLrdQ> eh i just had to add a couple flags and it worked
16:23 <@PhiRatE> what flags?
16:23 < OvrLrdQ> err, lemme look
16:24 < dantekgeek> The wiki seems to be down.
16:24 < OvrLrdQ> rsync -vaHx --progress --numeric-ids --delete east-boston.utopus.net::katrina ./
16:24 < dantekgeek> nm
16:24 < moonwick> PhiRatE: you going to get that page of yours linked into from the main site?
16:24 < moonwick> it'd be a shame to go to all this trouble for nothing :)
16:25 <@PhiRatE> moonwick: I've tried, but it doesn't eem to be happening, no idea who to even mention it to :)
16:25 < blutarski> what do they mean by () ?
16:25 < senex> The mirror application at http://www.spherens.com/mirror.php has no field to list URL.  How so?
16:25 < blutarski> sorry ww
16:25 <@Eimann> fscking streamingstuff. how can i get vlc/vls running on a CentOS 3.5 box?
16:26 < moonwick> hmm... who's running nola-intel.org ?
16:26 <@PhiRatE> not a clue
16:26 <@PhiRatE> senex: put it in the IP address box
16:27 < EO> Where can an end-user view a webcam stream?
16:27 < jd33021> my vlc feed is accessible at http://foo.webmeta.com:8080 if anyone cares to try it
16:28 < jd33021> since it's using mises as its source it's pretty erratic though, but the concept is sound
16:28 <@PhiRatE> ok, picture mirror page is picking up, I mentioned it in the comments.
16:28 < senex> PhiRatE: Resubmitted with http://shlang.com/ in the IP address field.
16:28 <@PhiRatE> cool, thanks
16:29 <@jebba> http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8080/
16:29 <@jebba> video stream to test
16:29 <@jebba> jd33021, getting:
16:29 <@jebba> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
16:29 <@jebba> Although I can play the "real" stream directly ok.    This is Linux with w32codecs there
16:29 < HuweyII> X15: new mirror is up, http://medusa.transedge.com/
16:30 < norculf> boneros
16:30 < tsal> RE: Video Feed - What are the system requirements for mirroring the feed? I have authority over several servers.
16:30 < senex> Are there more pictures than katrina and katrina2?  Are there any MPEG video files I could mirror?  Anything other than streaming?
16:30 < `jarsonic> jebba:  can't render the file w/ MPC
16:30 < jd33021> hmm
16:30 <@PhiRatE> tsal: please ssee the FAQ at http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
16:30 <@PhiRatE> senex: at this time, they're the only two sets I'm aware of
16:30 <@jebba> jd33021, I get that with yours and my "mirrors".
16:30 <@PhiRatE> You should, however, re-run the rsync regularly to keep the main tree up to date.
16:30 < jd33021> using windows media player on my mac, it works ok
16:31 < EO> jebba : stream no go w/ Media Player 10
16:31 < senex> PhiRatE: rsync is in cron, every 10 minutes.
16:31 < maswan> is Darwin Streaming Server a mac thingie? is there a linux version (preferably distributed with debian too)?
16:31  * maswan sits on ~2Gbit/s
16:31 < jd33021> let me test it with windows real quick..
16:31 <@jebba> maswan, ya, but it appears DSS wont be able to do it.
16:31 <@jebba> we're trying to see if we can do it with vlc
16:31 < dantekgeek> the site has been 404ing for the past 5 minutes
16:31 < addp009> i'm trying to setup a video feed, who should i contact?
16:31 < maswan> Ah, ok. Any other mirroring needed?
16:31 < Inaki> vlc good
16:32 < tsal> yech. i don't have nearly enough bandwidth.
16:32 < Inaki> what about nsv?
16:32 <@PhiRatE> DSS doesn't work?
16:32  * maswan hosts, among other things, cdimage.debian.org on normal days. We're used to a bit of bandwidth usage, and would love to have it for some good use.
16:32 < tsal> i can seed the bittorrents, tho!
16:32 <@jebba> maswan, ya. we currently have lots of offers, but folks are working on a good way to mirror.
16:32  * maswan nods
16:32 < Subground> jebba: I'm getting video from your test stream if that's helpful.
16:33 <@jebba> Subground, ok. Looks like some get it some don't. I have other reports of it working.
16:33 <@PhiRatE> The pictures are well served at the moment, without a link from the main page we're only going to see light traffic.
16:33 < jd33021> windows media player on windows also works ok with my stream
16:33 <@jebba> anyway, here's a video mirror then:  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8080
16:33 < maswan> I'll let you at it then. I'll probably be around for at least some hours, so give me a nick hilight if you want more mirroring.
16:33 < maswan> PhiRatE: Ah, ok. Thanks.
16:33 < Jurian> jebba: it doesn't work (yet?)
16:33 < norculf> haha
16:33 < norculf> haha
16:33 < norculf> oops
16:33 < jd33021> jebba: what player are you using?
16:34 < Simu-Palish> jebba: Neither winamp nor Windows Media Player wants to play that link.
16:34 <@speakit> jebba, media player under macosx works, but only a black image
16:34 <@speakit> oh, wait no.. i have a image
16:34 < addp009> yes, jebba, i'm on windows using WMP, only black
16:35 < addp009> nvm
16:35 < addp009> go it
16:35 <@jebba> jd33021, I'm using vlc to mirror the way you suggested.  My local player is mplayer under linux
16:35 < jd33021> speakit: yea, the black image is a result of our stream reflectors having no preferential treatment from mises, i think..
16:35 <+lexi__> what's the video feed url?
16:35 < senex> jebba: the video link gives me an EXE file, served as application/octet-stream.  My Mozilla on FreeBSD doesn't know what to do with that.
16:36 < {dm}> Does anyone have the frequencys that are being used in the astrodome?
16:36 <@speakit> senex, open it in your video player
16:36 < dantekgeek> jebba: that feed times out for me while buffering after playing about 5 seconds of video
16:36 < jd33021> jebba: i got a similar error with mplayer under linux
16:36 <@jebba> dantekgeek, I think it's cuz i'm not getting much of an upstream feed
16:36 < dantekgeek> ah
16:36 <@jebba> This is the command I ran:
16:36 < Subground> Don't know how useful this is, but here's a guide to peercasting video streams: http://www.scvi.net/stream/peervideo.htm
16:36 <@jebba> vlc  -v http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 --sout '#std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8080'
16:37 <+lexi__> vlc http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans; [00000274] access_mms access error: error: HTTP/1.0 453 Not Enough Bandwidth
16:37 < senex> speakit: Falling back on trying to parse playlist /tmp/mooov3ab.exe...  ============ Sorry, this file format is not recognized/supported =============
16:37 < Simu-Shawn> Hello.
16:37 <@speakit> lexi__, right, that server just had tgo much traffic, it was a win box from a friend of eimann
16:37 < Inaki> woo!
16:37 < Inaki> okay I got the rsync working
16:37 < Inaki> updating now
16:37 < jd33021> in my case, the original feeds don't seem to work with my linux video clients either
16:38 <+lexi__> speakit: fine.. any other seeds?
16:38 < senex> Is there an mpg or avi file source somewhere?  I'd mirror it with 100Mb/s to the backbone.
16:38 < dantekgeek> http://video.freevideoblog.com/neworleans/index.htm
16:38 < dantekgeek> thats working
16:38 < maswan> a suggestion is to have a private feed to mirrors and let the mirrors handle all the public.
16:38 < senex> My OC-12 here wouldn't have a problem with that.
16:38 <@speakit> so, vlc seems to work if we have a good source...
16:38 < theagent> WMA, ASF all of these SUCK!   Open it up to something like mpeg4
16:38 <@PhiRatE> maswan: I understand that was the intention, however communications is difficult.
16:38 < jd33021> yes, definitely
16:38 < theagent> something all platforms and multiple players can use
16:39 < maswan> PhiRatE: ACK.
16:39 <@PhiRatE> theagent: be our transcoding guest :)
16:39 < tsal> if ever there was a time mbone would be useful...
16:39 <@PhiRatE> we're limited to the format of the stream we're getting
16:39 <@PhiRatE> tsaal: oooooh yeah
16:39 <+lexi__> speakit, from where is  http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans feeded?
16:39 <@Eimann> Can Windows Media Services encode WMV -> MPEG4?
16:39 < Inaki> I'm wondering if anyone can run any realtime conversion on the stream?
16:39 <@speakit> jebba, try http://video.freevideoblog.com/no3.asx as source
16:39 < dantekgeek> Does anyone know what kind of camera has been used to take the pictures from the street? (the rioters, the fires, etc)
16:40 <@jebba> speakit, ok.
16:40 < jd33021> speakit: i tried that as a source for my vlc already, didn't work at all
16:40 < addp009> where can i find a mms feed to mirror?
16:40 <@speakit> sigh
16:40 < jd33021> the mises ones work fine though
16:40 < jd33021> well, other than the bandwidth problem
16:40 < tsal> mbone is so out of date, though.. hm.
16:40 <+lexi__> [00000279] access_mms access error: error: HTTP/1.0 503 Service Unavailable
16:41 <@speakit> we need the contact to NOLA so they can change the url and only make the mirrors public
16:41 < theagent> we could have had this finished and running hours ago if I could just get someone to install DSS on the host camera computer... this is SAD!
16:41 <@jebba> speakit, ok. i'm now mirroring that URL.. Does it work any better?
16:41 < Al_Berto_> thats also referring to http://64.124.159.242/no
16:41 < senex> vlc http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans  never displays anything for me (other than a window with a menu).
16:42 < maswan> jebba: my mplayer does not appriciate blag40k
16:42 <@jebba> maswan, i can't get it going under mplayer either. But folks are reporting it's working with WMP.  But I think that's a bit due to the source being, well, what it is....
16:43 < dantekgeek> I'm on windows medial player on mac, and its HARDLY working
16:43 < maswan> jebba: ok. one of the "original" ones worked for me in mplayer though.
16:43 < emagdnim> http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8080/ is working for me
16:43 < jd33021> does mises have some sort of connection timelimit enforced?
16:43 < jgrafton> jebba: which url?  I definitely can get the freevideoblog one working in mplayer
16:43 < Subground> Its no longer working here.
16:43 < maswan> Oh, well.
16:43 < jd33021> seems like i always stop receiving the stream from them after a few minutes
16:43 < theagent> PhiRatE, kind of hard to transcode a proprietary format
16:44 <@jebba> jgrafton, for whatever reason, when we mirror with vlc it stops working in mplayer. But I can view the original source in mplayer.
16:44 < jgrafton> ... strange
16:45 < mtmoore> not sure I'm following, but http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans works in mplayer for me
16:45 <@MrPants> anybody mirroring off the videoblog stream?
16:45 < jgrafton> I'm just having issues mirroring with vlc at all, but that's probably cause I've never attempted such a thing
16:45 < jwiv> I'll try from a windows box real quick if it would be useful.  Just need the mirror url to go to
16:45 < Subground> the original source being http://old.mises.org:88/NO2? or http://video.freevideoblog.com/no3.asx
16:45 < RatOmeter> not sure if it's needed, but I got the first set of pics mirrored at http://139.78.95.188/katrina/
16:45 <@jebba> i'm gonna take off for a few minutes and read up on vlc
16:45 <@MrPants> neither is the original
16:45 < senex> MrPants: the http://video.freevideoblog.com/no3.asx displays a deep-purple screen for me...
16:45 < apeman> I'm going to mirror the pics. I have lots of bandwidth, co-lo'd at my work. (An ISP in Vancouver, Canada). Does the rsync come with the html indexes?
16:45 <@MrPants> if you want the direct videoblog stream, it's http://64.124.159.242/no
16:45 < Subground> Ahh. thanks.
16:46 <@Eimann> Can Windows Media Services encode WMV -> MPEG4? - If it can, we need a transcoding box with WMS + DSS & IP Access-List
16:46 <@Eimann> Or some kind of firewall to allow and deny connections.
16:46 < theagent> there is NO transcoding for proprietary WMx
16:46 <@Eimann> so that we can ensure the link is only used by mirrorservers
16:46 <@Eimann> ok, thx theagent
16:46 <@Eimann> realmedia server can transcode, but it's a hell to setup it
16:47 < jd33021> vlc can do the transcoding according to its documentation
16:47 <@speakit> MrPants: thats directly from NOLA?
16:47 < theagent> somebody get me a VNC connection to the desktop hosting the camera... I'll fix this in a heartbeat
16:47  * PhiRatE grins
16:47 < tsal> oh man
16:47 < tsal> i can't find any config options for multicasting in linux 2.6.x
16:47 <@Eimann> theagent: Can't reach directnic stuff actually :-//
16:48 <@MrPants> speakit: no
16:48 < theagent> this just blows....
16:48 <@MrPants> http://64.124.159.242/no is a direct link to the freevideoblog.com stream
16:48 <@MrPants> it's quite solid, i've been watching it for a while now without any problems
16:48 < jwiv> That url is working like a champ in windows
16:49 < DocJelly_> is that stream the cam that was aimed at the building fire earlier?
16:49 < jd33021> ok, my vlc reflector is now using that
16:49 < jgrafton> my vlc is telling me that I have no "standard" output module.
16:49 < jd33021> http://foo.webmeta.com:8080
16:49 < jd33021> seems much more reliable
16:49 < tsal> if we can set this up on the mbone, and have the mirrors pull from an mbone address, lots of problems go away.
16:49 < jgrafton> somehow, I think I'm probably just being stupid
16:49 < Al_Berto_> hooray for multicast ... :/
16:50 <@speakit> jd33021, works well
16:50 < blutarski> are those the guys at directnic?
16:50 <@MrPants> DocJelly_: yes
16:50 < Qwijib0_Work> I've also been impressed with the videoblog server
16:50 < RatOmeter> second set of pictures mirrored at http://139.78.95.188/katrina2/  (mirroring form emailed)
16:50 < theagent> this stream works fine for the few that are using it... surely doesn't fix the overall problem
16:50 < Qwijib0_Work> mises always cut out after ~2 min
16:50 -!- X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Video Lan Client or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | READ ME: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt | Use http://www.spherens.com/mirror.php for mirror application
16:51 < theagent> they on a freeconference.com call?
16:51 <@MrPants> i've never heard of freevideoblog, but it appears to be the same infrastructure as streetfire.net
16:51 <@Eimann> i've a person who is using linux + multicast.
16:51 < tsal> thank the linux gods for gentoo and emerge mrouted
16:51 <@Eimann> i'll invite him here
16:51 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o berniv6] by Eimann
16:51 < Al_Berto_> i could do ipv6 multicast streaming..
16:51 < tsal> eimann, good plan
16:51 <@Eimann> there he is, berniv6 our multicast guru ;)
16:51 < Qwijib0_Work> So we shouldn't use darwin streaming if we want to mirror anymore?
16:52 < tsal> berni
16:52 <@X15> Darwin Streaming dosn't do MMS
16:52 <@PhiRatE> Q: we ar eunsure, we're working on it right now
16:52 < Qwijib0_Work> k
16:52 <@PhiRatE> ah. ok, we are sure :)
16:52 <@berniv6> Al_Berto_: from where?
16:52 <@NACAlex> www.nola-intel.org is dead
16:52 <@berniv6> hi guys :-)
16:52 < Plaid> is there audio for the cam feed? A shoutcast somewhere maybe?
16:52 <@Eimann> NACAlex: www.nola-intel.com
16:52 < Al_Berto_> berniv6: europe, germany
16:52 <@X15> NAC lives!
16:52 < tsal> hi, berniv6
16:52 <@Eimann> Al_Berto_: whoop, cool :)
16:52 <@berniv6> Al_Berto_: are you in m6bone?
16:52 < Qwijib0_Work> So, what should I install to be able to stream... using FreeBSD here (via console, no x.org)
16:52 < Al_Berto_> berniv6: kind of. emch via sixxs
16:52 < HuweyII> X15: our web mirror is up if you need it, http://medusa.transedge.com/
16:53 < Al_Berto_> ecmh*
16:53 < tsal> am i dropping packets like crazy or something? I'm not seeing anything Al_Berto_ says
16:53 <@berniv6> Al_Berto_: oh, that won't help ... you can't really send with that
16:53 < tsal> or is the channel desynched?
16:53 < Al_Berto_> berniv6: oh .. crap
16:53 <@X15> Video Lan Client
16:53 <@PhiRatE> tsal: it is moderated, I believe this means you can't see things non-ops/voices say? not sure on this network
16:54 <@berniv6> ecmh is not a fully implemented IPv6 mcast router ... you need to connect to a PIM enabled one (demuc02 or ittrn01) and use mrd6 on your side if you need to route
16:54 < tsal> ah, mind if I get a +v ?
16:54 <@X15> I'm gonna go ahead and open it up for now, till we get organized again
16:54 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [-m] by X15
16:54 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [-z] by X15
16:54 <@MrPants> anybody actually get DSS relaying the wmv9 stream properly?
16:54 < HuweyII> X15: our web mirror is up if you need it, http://medusa.transedge.com/
16:54 < jgrafton> I'm on a university with internet2
16:54 <@Yog-home> OMG
16:54 < Al_Berto_> berniv6: yes, you're right of course
16:54 < jgrafton> ... I feel like I should be using this somehow.  oh well.
16:54 <@berniv6> Al_Berto_: I was just curious ... because I work for the only active commercial ISP in m6bone and thought I knew all m6bone people :-)
16:54 <@X15> DSS will not mirror MMS
16:54 < tsal> ouch, -m makes for the spam!
16:54 < theagent> MrPants,  DSS cannot do WMx
16:54 <@Yog-home> the scientologists are providing aid in NOLA
16:55 <@MrPants> X15: that's what i figured.
16:55 <@Yog-home> scary
16:55 < senex> jgrafton: I'm a network engineer working for Internet2...
16:55 < jd33021> just to reiterate: we have stream reflection working with vlc - you can test it by connecting to my stream at http://foo.webmeta.com:8080 with windows media player
16:55 <@MrPants> Yog-home: any time they can find people in need to exploit
16:55 <@X15> Let them spam for now, when we get things in order again we'll put it back
16:55 < tsal> okay, let's make a new channel for mbone discussions, shall we? #interdictor-mbone ?
16:55 <@Yog-home> MrPants: yeh but they dont' have any $
16:55 < Al_Berto_> berniv6: hehe, it's a small world in ipv6-land ;)
16:55 <@Yog-home> MrPants: i guess they could work :)
16:55 < theagent> NO! more channels
16:55 <@Yog-home> hahaha
16:55 <@X15> Were setting up VLC on the NAC boxes, i suggest everyone that wants to mirror get rid of Darwin and use VLC or WMS
16:56 <@Yog-home> how many interdictor channels are there now :)
16:56 < jgrafton> senex: heh.  it seems like it'd be fun to mirror this for other university students, but I'm afraid my university may not like that
16:56 < kwantam> the MIT mirror I put up should be routed via MBONE when possible
16:56 <@Yog-home> senex: what's internet2 ?  IPV6 native network ?
16:56 < kwantam> but it's only pictures, not video.
16:56 < senex> jgrafton: Mirror what?  I can give up 100Mb/s, but all I mirrored for now are pictures.
16:56 < maswan> I'd be interested in working out why mplayer barfs on the vlc mirror.
16:57 < Al_Berto_> Yog-home: no, just internet with high quality links only ;)
16:57 <@Yog-home> oh...
16:57 < theagent> my VLC barfs on the VLC mirror
16:57 < jgrafton> senex: the webcam
16:57 <@Yog-home> "high quality"
16:57 <@Yog-home> what's that mean
16:57 < senex> Yog-home: the research and education network in the US.  (Yes, it can run IPv6 natively as well.)
16:57 <@speakit> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page  wiki is back
16:57 <@Yog-home> OC192 ? :)
16:57 < Jurian> http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode should be able to transcode WMV to MPEG4
16:57 < Al_Berto_> Yog-home: restrictive peering policies etc.
16:57 < senex> Yog-home: the core circuits are OC-192.
16:57 <@Yog-home> oh.. like the original NSAnet
16:57 < tsal> who has a 192??
16:57 <@Eimann> Yog-home: Bandwidth like hell, it's a reasearch network in .us, connected to the CERN researchnetwork in europe
16:57 < tsal> jeebus.
16:57 <@Yog-home> NSFnet
16:58 <@Yog-home> i mean
16:58 < bipto> http://videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch03.html
16:58 < jgrafton> wow, I lose at life.  I bet compiling vlc with streaming support may help.
16:58 < tsal> NSFnet / NSAnet. don't want to get THOSE two mixed up.
16:58 < jd33021> according to http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch04.html#id295553 , it also supports transcoding internally..
16:58 <@Yog-home> tsal: hehe..yeh :)
16:58 <@Yog-home> NSAnet doesn't exist..officially
16:58 <@Yog-home> ;-)
16:58 < theroamer> I can mirror pics on an oc3 if someone can help me out with rsync
16:58 <@NACAlex> http://nola-intel.org:8001/scan is not resolving
16:59 < F-geek> vlc does work well with the stream
16:59 < tayjolls> speakit: wiki is back? still not working here.
16:59 <@NACAlex> wiki is back
16:59 < tsal> okay, so, I'm REALLY rusty on mbone/multicasting. is it worth the effort to try and get something set up to alleviate the bandwidth strains?
16:59 < theagent> what is the URL of the stream for VLC?
16:59 <@PhiRatE> do we have a commandline for runnign a vlc reflector at this point?
16:59 <@NACAlex> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page
16:59 < Al_Berto_> NACAlex: nola-intel.org has address 64.247.11.252
16:59 <@Yog-home> senex: what kind of routers u guys use for the OC192s ?
16:59 <+fr4nk> ok
16:59 < senex> Now, can anyone give me a feed of anything other than pictures that doesn't need streaming?  It'll fly from here...
16:59 <+fr4nk> back
16:59 < jd33021> Phirate: yes
16:59 < senex> Yog-home: T640
16:59 <@Yog-home> senex: jew-nippers ?
16:59 <+fr4nk> looks like i have atleast 1 back up seeder
16:59 <@Yog-home> T640..hrm
16:59 < senex> Yog-home, yes.
16:59 <@PhiRatE> jd: ...what is it? :D
16:59 <@Yog-home> ah
16:59 < jd33021> sec
16:59  * icculus had to step out; are we dropping DSS?
16:59 < jd33021> (it's way back in my terminal's history)
16:59 <@PhiRatE> icc: yes
17:00 <@Yog-home> senex: I heard Juniper pwns in the core
17:00 <@Yog-home> I've never played with one though
17:00 < tsal> icculus?!
17:00 <@Yog-home> only Netscreens
17:00 <@berniv6> tsal: depends on your viewers ... multicast is quite common in the educational networks, but next to zero on commercial networks
17:00 < tsal> wow, fancy seeing you here.
17:00 < jd33021>  vlc -v http://64.124.159.242/no --sout '#std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=foo.webmeta.com:8080'
17:00 < senex> Yog: We ditched GSRs to get the T640s.  Also evaluated a bunch of other stuff.
17:00 < theagent> Mbone goes back a decade +
17:00 < tsal> berniv6, my idea was to set up a multicast network among the mirrors
17:00 < bipto> fr4nk: ya got me. want me to stay up?
17:00 < tsal> and just reflect to a regular IP for the front end.
17:01 < jd33021> i'm going to try and get a mpeg4 transcoded stream set up..
17:01 < icculus> tsal: do I know you?
17:01 < RatOmeter> fr4ank: can you suggest a better (more torrents than 3 served) BT client?
17:01 <@Yog-home> senex: Juniper are bitches with their support contracts though.. u can't get butkiss w/o a valid contract..even docs half the time.. pisses me off
17:01 <@NACAlex> heh
17:01 <@berniv6> tsal: might be possible, but I guess there aren't many mirrors mcast-enabled
17:01 <@NACAlex> ditch GSR's for t640's
17:01 < tsal> icculus loki stuff
17:01 <@NACAlex> you infer they are even in the same class
17:01 < DocJelly_> fr3nk: Im seeding 01-06
17:01 <@PhiRatE> icc: that does not appear to work for me. The server starts up, but mplayer when accessing it screams of ProcessInputError's
17:02 < Al_Berto_> i'm sseding 01-13 ;)
17:02 < senex> NACAlex: GSR+ is definitely in the same class.  Just not as good.
17:02 <+fr4nk> Al_Berto_ thanks :_
17:02 <+fr4nk> :)
17:02 < L337dexter> do we still need a new wiki?
17:02 <@NACAlex> GSR and t640 are not in the same class, you are mistaken.
17:02 <@NACAlex> CRS1, perhaps, but not GSR
17:02 <@Eimann> jd33021: I get this error, any idea? http://phpfi.com/76861
17:03 < senex> NACAlex: the original GSR was just older generation gear.  Worked so-so on our OC-48s years ago.  The GSR+ is OK.
17:03  * grunchley still has an FTP account setup on his server for use by the Interdictor project folks.  Have a subdomain setup for you too if needed.
17:03 <@Eimann> L337dexter: Yep.
17:03 <@Eimann> L337dexter: A wiki would be a good idea
17:03 <@NACAlex> who runs http://nola-intel.org:8001/scan
17:03 <@NACAlex> the WIKI is working!
17:03 <@NACAlex> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Radio_Info
17:04 < tsal> i think the rsync just died.
17:04 <@NACAlex> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page
17:04 < tsal> there it goes.
17:04 <@Eimann> NACAlex: Wiki for tec only stuff. but we can use the nola wiki
17:04 < jd33021> Eimann: not sure ..
17:04 <@PhiRatE> ok, totem did manage to play that url
17:04 < mayo> it's still dead over here
17:04 <@speakit> who has access to edit Main_Page? we need to change add Picture Mirrors
17:04 <@PhiRatE> only just, but it did it
17:04 <@Eimann> L337dexter: stop. i think it's better we're going to use the nola wiki
17:04 < theagent> so who are the guys on the phone with?
17:05 < abuser> Are there more mirrors/ whatnot needed?
17:05 <+fr4nk> RatOmeter g3 torrent  is my personal favorite
17:05 <@Yog-home> senex: i heard OC256 cards are in the works :)
17:05 <@Yog-home> heh.. 20Gb/s :)
17:05 < L337dexter> i honestly can't get to taht wiki
17:05 <@NACAlex> oc256?
17:05 <@NACAlex> someone is really confused
17:05 <@MrPants> oc16384.
17:06 <@Yog-home> i saw some mention on a mailing list a while ago
17:06 <@NACAlex> ok
17:06 < senex> Yog: there's no such thing.
17:06 <@NACAlex> who is running the streams on nolo-intel
17:06 < Nac-SirParadox> vlc requires libmad
17:06 < Nac-SirParadox> libmad requires avcodec
17:06 <@speakit> wiki.nola-intel.org has address 216.14.30.227
17:06 < senex> Yog, OC-768 is in the works.
17:06 <@PhiRatE> abuser: not at this time, we don't appear to be able to get the mirrors that we have onto the front page anyway :)
17:06 < senex> Yog, the OC hierarchy grows by factors of 4.
17:06 <@Yog-home> damn
17:07 <@NACAlex> 216.14.30.227 is old
17:07 <@Eimann> stream relay at: http://83.243.0.9:8080/
17:07 <@Yog-home> oh.. I didn't know it was always X4
17:07 < abuser> phirate: what do yo you mean on the front page?
17:07 <@NACAlex> clear your cache
17:07 <@Yog-home> i havn't worked w/ sonet much
17:07 <@PhiRatE> absuer: the top of the livejournal
17:07 <@Eimann> It's located in europe - so please _only_ european users should use it.
17:07 <@X15> Eimann: Is that one of the NAC boxes?
17:07 <@X15> Ahh
17:07 <@NACAlex> no
17:07 < eMoose> Distributed Katrina Images Cache project: http://katrina.moose.to/
17:07 <@Yog-home> 40Gb/s .. pretty nuts
17:07 <@Eimann> X15: nope, it's one of my boxes located in germany
17:07 <@NACAlex> sonet is so 1998
17:08 <@MrPants> heh
17:08 < addp009> someone setup a sopcast feed.. it really helps a lot
17:08 < moonwick> eMoose: is your cache page related to phirate's?
17:08 < Nac-SirParadox> here
17:08 < Cloak> doesn't seem to be
17:08 <@X15> Heh, well, get the US ones up!
17:08 < eMoose> moonwick: nope, I just set it up.
17:08 <+lexi__> the only source that currently seems to work is http://64.124.159.242/no (WMV3)
17:08 <@jnagro> howdy
17:08 < Plaid> PPPoMPLSoATMoSONET is the wave of the future
17:08 <@Eimann> addp009: you're the sopcast guy who sent me a mail?
17:08 <@jnagro> whats the scoop?
17:08 < addp009> yes
17:08 < moonwick> well, let's see if we can coordinate our mirroring efforts
17:09 < abuser> I've got more servers and bw to throw at it
17:09 <@Eimann> addp009: ah, ok, will this software run with linux?
17:09 < eMoose> moonwick: how are you doing yours? I can call you if you ant.
17:09 < addp009> i'm don't work for sopcast tho
17:09 < eMoose> want
17:09 < abuser> plus the *cough* technical competancy to set it up
17:09 < addp009> no unforunatly
17:09 < dantekgeek> is the site down?
17:09 <@X15> So how many mirrors do we have up now, folks?
17:09 <@NACAlex> i don't think throwing hardware it the issue now is what we need
17:09 < jd33021> does anyone know if there is a WMV3 _decoder_ available for vlc?
17:09 < moonwick> I'm not doing anything personally, I just know that phirate has something set up
17:09 < moonwick> http://exorsus.net/interdictor_picture_mirrors.php
17:09 <@NACAlex> the issue is techincal problems regarding DNS and software setup
17:09 <+lexi__> jd33021, only on WIN
17:09 < moonwick> so you should see if you can work together with him
17:09 < moonwick> maybe merge your efforts
17:10 <@PhiRatE> Ok, I'm going offline, I've been up all night and it's not 9am :) Someone may need to take over the FAQ, just grab the source
17:10 <@X15> NACAlex: I think it's about time we get that ASX back up
17:10 < jd33021> so transcoding with vlc on linux isn't really possible then..
17:10 < moonwick> to make this stuff easier to coordinate.  :)
17:10 < Torg> You can decode wmv on VLC for the mac as well.
17:10 < HuweyII> X15: picture mirror at http://medusa.transedge.com/
17:10 <+lexi__> jd33021, looks like
17:10 <@Yog-home> heh.. T640 takes 6500 watts :)
17:10 <@PhiRatE> The code for the mirror randomiser is at http://exorsus.net/interdictor_picture_mirrors.php.txt
17:10 <@X15> HuweyII: put it on the wiki
17:10 < tsal> phirate, get some sleep.
17:10 <@PhiRatE> if its needed :)
17:10 <@NACAlex> who is handling DNS for nola-intel?
17:10 <@X15> PhiRatE: Use .phps
17:10 < senex> X15: picture mirror at http://shlang.com/
17:10 < L337dexter> ok...don't spaz...the nola wiki is not working
17:10 <@PhiRatE> X15: .txt means people can grab it and reuse it without stripping out the colour
17:10 < Starblazer> yes it is
17:11 < abuser> I have large DNS servers I can throw at it
17:11 < tsal> the nola wiki works fine for me
17:11 <@X15> I don't take pictures, guys
17:11 < vuori> WMV3 is the same as WMV9, there's no other decoder for it than the official M$ ones as far as I know
17:11  * PhiRatE goes to sleep
17:11 < Starblazer> http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info
17:11 <@X15> PhiRatE: No need to strip the color, but it sure looks prettyer!
17:11  * PhiRatE is away - luck all - messages will be saved.
17:11 <@berniv6> dns servers can be offered here as well, but I guess the bigger problem is the setup
17:11 <@Eimann> NACAlex: We should do some work on organizing. Let me summarize:  We now have a page with mirror offers. We have hosts from nac.net. We're able to relay the stream with VLC.
17:11 < abuser> who is coordinating this right now?
17:11 <@speakit> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/PictureMirrors
17:11 < Mrdini> hmm, why is it VLC now? thought people were working on a DSS solution?
17:11 <@PhiRatE> and a .phps file, just for X15 :)
17:11 < OvrLrdQ> Mrdini: dont think DSS worked out
17:11 < tsal> they gave up on DSS because of compatibility issues, I believe.
17:11 <@X15> Wait, NACAlex: Arnt you with nac.net?
17:12 < jd33021> Mrdini: vlc is quick & easy and works now
17:12 < Starblazer> I have a dns server that I can setup a slave zone
17:12 <@NACAlex> yes,
17:12 < DocJelly_> isnt VLC platform-independent?
17:12 < theagent> Mrdini, we couldn't get DSS installed on the host machine
17:12 < Mrdini> tsai, ugh, bites
17:12 <@speakit> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/PictureMirrors    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
17:12 < asmith> DSS won't do WMV
17:12 <@jnagro> what can i do at the moment?
17:12 <+fr4nk> torrents
17:12 <@X15> NACAlex: Yet you don't know the guy who has nola-intel on your server?
17:12 <+fr4nk> should get added
17:12 < theagent> DSS won't do WMV.. totally closed
17:12 < Mrdini> yeah, DSS doesn't as WMV's a closed codec :P
17:12 < theagent> WMV that is
17:12 <@NACAlex> yes
17:12 <@NACAlex> we know him
17:12 <@NACAlex> doofoo
17:12 < Torg> Can FFDSHOW decode wmv?
17:12 <@X15> Ahhh, ok, does he work for you?
17:12 <@NACAlex> no
17:13 < theagent> VLC streaming isn't the answer to this problem... but I give up already
17:13 <@NACAlex> he's gone MIA from me in the past hour
17:13 < senex> I can
17:13 < vuori> If you're feeling adventurous, http://clement.stenac.org/projects/videolan/dmo.html has a plugin for vlc that can use the Windows codec DLLs on other platforms (as mplayer does)
17:13 <@X15> Are you responsible for his boxes or is he? 'cause there down
17:13 < mxhess> has anyone asked if the original webcam source can output something both in a different format as well as different bitrate?
17:14 < tsal> x15, i'm getting connection fine to nola-intel
17:14 < theagent> we can't even get a response about what the hell that machine is never mind the ability to produce mutliple formats
17:14 <+fr4nk> also, is the south-boston mirror doesn?
17:14 <+fr4nk> *down?
17:14 <@jnagro> east-boston
17:14 <@jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net
17:14 <+fr4nk> excuse me
17:14 <@X15> www.nola-intel.org is down for me
17:14 < tsal> i'm pulling rsync from it now, fr4nk
17:14 <@jnagro> ;-)
17:14 <+fr4nk> cause its not listed on the mirror page
17:14 <@jnagro> X15: can i mirror nola-intel.org?
17:14 < theroamer> can someone give me a little tech support to set up my mirror?
17:14 <@jnagro> theroamer: what sort of mirror?
17:14 < jgrafton> kinda stupid question
17:14 < abuser> I can if you already have the data
17:14 < jgrafton> but can mplayer output to a unix socket by chance
17:14 < tsal> X15: you're right. www isn't responding
17:14 <@X15> jnagro: Talk to NACAlex
17:14 < tsal> but wiki is
17:15 < jgrafton> or something that vlc might be able to read?
17:15 < Al_Berto_> bbl
17:15 <@jnagro> NACAlex: you guys need nola-intel.org mirror?
17:15 <@X15> tsal: there on differnt boxes as far as i know
17:15 < Starblazer> okay, which one do we use?
17:15 < icculus> jgrafton: you can also mkfifo
17:15 < Starblazer> the .com wiki is fine
17:15 -!- Inaki is now known as Inaki[Work]
17:15 < theagent> I can't tell if I have voice in here
17:16 < Starblazer> neg agent
17:16 < jwiv> Agent, it's temporarily unmoded
17:16 <+fr4nk> you dont
17:16 < theagent> oh
17:16 <+fr4nk> also, should i zip and torrent http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2
17:17 < amortalkiller> mirror feeding? help?
17:17 < Cloak> or just get it off the rsync mirror
17:17 <@jnagro> fr4nk: u can rsync that dir too
17:17 < abuser> if you are mirrirong, you need at least 10 mb committed bw
17:17 <@NACAlex> doofoo
17:17 <@NACAlex> pls contact me
17:17 < abuser> the last few mirrors Ive tried seem to be on dsl lines
17:17 <@speakit> ok, and i guess we need a Squid setup and DNS RR for the Wiki Page
17:17 < Cloak> abuser: for pics or for video?
17:17 < abuser> pics
17:17 < amortalkiller> hows someplace between 10 and 1000GB?
17:17 < theroamer> if I do rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina should it download all the pics to the dir I ran it from?
17:17 < abuser> video is probably going to be more than that
17:17 < shogun> use the torrents?
17:18 < Spacey_> Squid is terrible under load.
17:18 < eMoose> Dynamic updating distributed katrina photos mirror project: http://katrina.moose.to/
17:18 < Cloak> I've yet to see any sort of real traffic, maybe 1-2Mbit and I've been posting it around a bit
17:18 < tsal> roamer, no
17:18 < tsal> you have to give it a destination
17:18 < eMoose> speakit: it's up, use the http://katrina.moose.to/
17:18 < tsal> like
17:18 < abuser> I ran the distributed picture stuff back on 9-11
17:18 < tsal> rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina .
17:18 <+fr4nk> yea use the torrents spread the word
17:18 < Cloak> eMoose: yeah, there is one that PhiRatE already has setup with a few mirrors now
17:18 < eMoose> Cloak: he's not using dynamic updates, he's using rsync.
17:19 < eMoose> mine will update automagically when the source updates.
17:19 <@jnagro> eMoose: squid?
17:19 < eMoose> and the caches will talk to each other for content before hitting the original site.
17:19 < theagent> so who is now working on the DNS RR for the video stream mirrors?
17:19 < eMoose> jnagro: squid+apache/mod_proxy
17:19 < moonwick> eMoose: what do I need to do to add my mirror to your thing?
17:19 < abuser> do you have a list of the IPs already?
17:19 <@jnagro> eMoose: word
17:19 < tsal> I'll be seeding the torrents indefinitely using torrentflux, once I get home.
17:19 <+fr4nk> tsal thanks
17:20 < HuweyII> We listed our link on the wiki X15.
17:20 < eMoose> moonwick: can you get squid/apache running? or do you want config files?
17:20 < abuser> I missed the link to the wiki
17:20 < tsal> someone post the torrent links on the wiki
17:20 < eMoose> I can install if you aren't a unix geek.
17:20 < Spacey_> I've seen people try to run squid under high-traffic conditions and the results were not pretty.  It can't handle more than like 100 concurrent connections.  You might as well just run apache and handle thousands of concurrent connections on the same server.
17:20 < tsal> http://wiki.nola-intel.org
17:20 < Nac-SirParadox> checking for ffmpeg/avcodec.h... no
17:20 < Nac-SirParadox> configure: error: Missing header file ffmpeg/avcodec.h.
17:20 <@speakit> nola-intel.org is back also...
17:20 <@speakit> http://nola.blagblagblag.org/www.nola-intel.org/pictures3/
17:20 < abuser> I agree with the squid
17:20 < moonwick> well, I wasn't planning to set up another apache instance
17:20 < Torg> pardox, isn't that the ffdshow filters?
17:21 < abuser> you need a load balancer
17:21 <@speakit> more and more images of pictures3
17:21 < moonwick> and I've already got a set of the files mirrored over rsync
17:21 < eMoose> moonwick: come to #katrina.moose.to
17:21  * moonwick needs to do real work right now... mebe later :)
17:21 < eMoose> heh. ok. :-)
17:22 < Mrdini> where can I connect to the video streams?
17:22 < Spacey_> I can do DNS based global load balancing so that mirrors are reached under a single URL, but I'm not so sure that is really desirable in this situation because then you don't get to pick your own mirror, you just get what it gives you.
17:22 < abuser> what resources are low right now?
17:22 < bipto> fr4nk: how many torrents do you have going? URL of 'em?
17:22 < amortalkiller> how can i help then?
17:22 < maswan> Spacey_: really, that isn't going to be much of a problem, if they are fast enough.
17:23 < abuser> spacy- most people just chose the first morror. lbdns is a great way to fix that
17:23 < abuser> maswan: yes, need to feed out the crappy mirrors
17:23 < maswan> Spacey_: sure, you want to enable people to get a list of mirrors, but loadbalancing the main host is a great idea.
17:23 < jd33021> Mrdini: I have my VLC reflector at http://foo.webmeta.com:8080 .. currently only one other client connected
17:23 < Spacey_> maswan: Assuming every mirror uses the identical directory structure and is configured to handle the unified URL in their vhost configuration...
17:23 < maswan> also, you can kind of do this with http-redirects
17:23 < Mrdini> jd33, ta!
17:23 < abuser> spacy: require it from them
17:23 < Starblazer> wouldn't dns-round-robin help out a little?
17:23 < Nac-SirParadox> dns iz your friend
17:23 < maswan> yes, needs to have identical paths
17:23 < Torg> jdd33021:  That link doesn't set mimetypes.
17:24 < maswan> and someone needs to repoint the main published url
17:24 < abuser> in order to have a mirror you must -- 1) resolve to mirrorXXX.whatever.com  2) have X bw  3) commit X resources
17:24 < Starblazer> its' on cnn right now
17:24 < Spacey_> Well, if someone wants to coordinate the mirrors and check that their content/paths are identical, I can make a unified URL that is globally load balanced.
17:24 < dantekgeek> interdictor is on cnn
17:24 < jd33021> Torg: any idea how to force that in vlc? If you open it from windows media player directly, it works ok..
17:24 < jgrafton> jd33021: how did you get a vlc reflector working?
17:24 < abuser> spacy: just start  fresh list
17:24 < Torg> jd33021: It's a webserver setting.
17:25 < theagent> I just lost the video mirror at http://64.124.159.242/no
17:25 < maswan> Torg: vlc does it's own "trivial" webserver
17:25 < jd33021> Torg: in this case vlc is the webserver.
17:25 < jd33021> must be in the manual somewhere
17:25 < Spacey_> Yeah but I'm saying I don't mind setting it up, but I don't have the time to run around coordinating and testing all the mirrors to add whatever ones are properly configured.
17:25 < abuser> spacy: people will come back when they find out their mirror isnt working or isnt getting as  much load
17:25 < silas> DSS didn't work guys?
17:26 <+fr4nk> how do you use rsync am i missing something?
17:26 < mxhess> nope, stream format issue
17:26 < theagent> we couldn't get DSS loaded on camera host
17:26 < abuser> spacy: set up your mirror. create new channel for mirror operators only. new channel has someone who is wathching and can add "correct" mirrors to your dns/head node
17:26 < Torg> jd33021, why are you streaming at 1000k/sec?
17:26 < Torg> That's more than the source feed.
17:26 < abuser> spacy: new mirrors from here forward would be added to that
17:26 < jd33021> I'm not explicitly setting a bitrate
17:27 < Mrdini> hmm, can't connect to jd33021's URL with VLC.... any other mirrors that ARE set up correctly?
17:27 < nonforma> i have an eggdrop bot setup logging all the rooms, working on making the logs available and setting up link catcher
17:27 < belteshazzar> now with CNN slashdotting the system, IRC was made for events like this
17:27 < Torg> It's prolly wasting a ton of bandwidth on you.
17:27 < Spacey_> abuser: Yeah, that works.  Anyone want to take on the coordination task?  heh
17:27 < abuser> I will help
17:27 < maswan> so, what is the official word on path then?
17:28 < tsal> holy cow that's a lot of images in that rsync.
17:28 < Torg> Have they at least closed the source feed to the general public yet?
17:28 < abuser> Id say top level domains only so that you can have nola.whatever.com
17:28 < theagent> probably not
17:28 < Torg> or are the mirrors still going to have to fight with that?
17:28 < abuser> all feeds / pictures are listed off that
17:28 < theagent> Torg, they need to drop that to mirrors only
17:28 < Torg> Big time.
17:29 < maswan> abuser: why bother with that, really?
17:29 < maswan> abuser: the dns name isn't important, the part after it is
17:29 < jgrafton> what did CNN do?
17:29 < Spacey_> The DNS name is important if the hoster is using name based vhosts
17:29 < abuser> maswan: two reasons: it gets rid of people who want to mirror it at mysite.whatever/~username/stuff here and chances are anyone who is competant enough to create a nola.whatever hostname has the right resources you're looking for
17:29 < Spacey_> If they are using IP based vhosts then it does not matter.
17:31 < abuser> hmm
17:31 < maswan> abuser: well, requiring a /nola/stuff thingie is probably good enough. but fiddling with the dns zone is going to put off some big sites and encourage the guys with vanity domains (as opposed to say a university domain)
17:31 < amortalkiller> i've got spare zones / dedicated rack
17:31 < macjunkie> do you guys still need mirrors?
17:31 < amortalkiller> looking for mirror dirs
17:31 < abuser> university domains tend to get really pissed when they find out someone is using 200 mb/s on their old shared web server
17:31 < tsal> I'd say yes.
17:32 < macjunkie> i can host pics and files and stuff
17:32 < macjunkie> just gimme details and stuff
17:32 < tsal> see the topic
17:32 < maswan> abuser: that depends on the university, here I have official premission to use up to 2Gbit/s for computer club stuff (like free software mirrors, or this)
17:32 <@X15> Soooo, who here has a working cam stream?
17:32 < tsal> and:
17:32 < tsal> http://wiki.nola-intel.org
17:32 < jkellner> I offered to rebroadcast the stream via email.. got no response
17:32 < jgrafton> jkellner: haha
17:32 < macjunkie> ack don't have anything to install vlc or windows media on
17:32 < jkellner> er
17:32 < jgrafton> vlc seems to kinda not work properly
17:33 < Spacey_> OK so, what directory structure do we want to require for the mirror vhosts?  And who will be the first for me to add?  :)
17:33 < jgrafton> or at least I can't use mplayer in conjunction with it
17:33 < jkellner> that came out wrong, I offered via email, to rebroadcast
17:33 <@X15> jgrafton: No other choice
17:33 < jd33021> mplayer on what os?
17:33 < jgrafton> linux
17:33 < jd33021> there is no wmv decoder for linux
17:33 <@X15> Some have gotten it working
17:33 < jkellner> totem will play it
17:33 < jd33021> hmm
17:33 < abuser> so we need windows media str3eaming services?
17:33 < Torg> There is a hack that lets you load windows DLL's to get the codec.
17:33 < djbsquared> X15: op?
17:33 <@X15> Besides, do it have to open it to rebroadcast it? i think not
17:33 < Cloak> nola.domain.tld/nola/mirror$1/dir$1/d89s90df8sdf/ should be the official syntax ;)
17:34 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o djbsquared] by X15
17:34 < vuori> I think I have a vlc capable of transcoding wmv9 now
17:34 < Mrdini> is this WMV3 or WMV9 *gags* btw?
17:34 <@djbsquared> thanks
17:34 <@X15> np
17:34 < jd33021> X15: his point is my VLC reflector, while it does work, doesn't work as nicely as the other stream mirrors
17:34 < asmith> I watching the video on linux
17:34 < maswan> vuori: if you have, I'd love to check it out
17:34 < theroamer> ok, finally got rsync to work and it looks like my mirror is working.. I filled out the form. anything else I need to do?
17:34 <+lexi__> Mrdini, same stuff, different name
17:34 < vuori> wmv3 is the same as wmv9
17:34 < jkellner> http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
17:34 <@X15> jd33021: We have no other options
17:34 < jd33021> i.e. you have to open my stream from windows media player
17:34 < Jurian> VLC says WMV3
17:34 < asmith> xine with the windows DLLs
17:34 < asmith> VLC will work with them also. Not ideal, but it works
17:34 < vuori> maswan, trying to test it now
17:35 < theagent> so lame.... freaking hacks to get this to work on multiple platforms
17:35 < vuori> I can probably transcode a stream for mirrors
17:35 < jd33021> i can't find any options in VLC's docs for either forcing a mime-type or forcing a bitrate.. weird..
17:35 < maswan> hmm.. http://the.host.tld/mirror/nola/{katarina,katarina2} etc?
17:35 < theagent> Microsoft wins again.... just say NO
17:35 < vuori> (when I get this working)
17:35 <@djbsquared> X15: did any video stuff end up working?
17:35 <+lexi__> i'll trx to transcode it on a win box and make a mpeg stream available
17:35 < jgrafton> mplayer says the freevideoblog one is wmv9
17:35 < theroamer> I got pic mirrors working at http://realeyesdesign.com/katrina2/ and http://realeyesdesign.com/katrina/
17:36 <+fr4nk> rsyncing the second the seocnd set of pictures will torrent asap
17:36 < jd33021> and the freevideoblog one works in mplayer?
17:36 < jgrafton> I wish mplayer had some way to save video out to a file or something.
17:36 < jgrafton> freevideoblog works in mplayer just fine
17:36 < abuser> there are programs you can use to downstream to a file
17:36 < jgrafton> mplayer can save a stream to a file, but that's still an asf, which doesn't help much.
17:36 < blanu> jgrafton: It does. Use mencoder -o filename -ovc codecname.
17:36 < jgrafton> oh.  hm.
17:36 < abuser> they're popular inthe "save my porn movies" world
17:36 <+fr4nk> the tracker is open if anyone else starts a torrent with http://atwork.tehcrew.com:6969/announce as the announcer
17:36 < jgrafton> could one theoretically decode with mplayer and then send that out with vlc?
17:36 <@Eimann> Hm, the streams relayed with VLC are not working with mplayer, Realplayer 10 and VLC.
17:36 < blanu> I've been archiving with mencoder stream -o katrina.avi -ovc x264 to make H.264 files.
17:36 < jgrafton> it's hacky, but it might work
17:37 < abuser> frank: what is it a tracker for?
17:37 < Torg> jd33021:  Although it says 1000k for your stream, it doesn't seem to be using it all.
17:37 < Nac-SirParadox> Eimann: Vlc doesn't compile for me... what should I be doing for you
17:37 < blanu> I'd like to host a daily downloadable archive of the webcam, but I can't find a reliable source.
17:37 < maswan> Eimann: yes, this is a known problem. apparently the vlc server doesn't set mimetype.
17:37 <+fr4nk> they asked me to set up a bittorent tracker for the pictures
17:37 < Torg> Stats on WMP says 261k used just like the source.
17:37 <+fr4nk> to lower the loas
17:37 <@djbsquared> Eimann: did any mirrors ever go up?
17:37 <+fr4nk> *load on the picture mirror
17:37 <@Eimann> maswan: ok, thanks 4 info.
17:37 <@Yog-home> senex: damn..those T series routers must be uber spendy.. Juniper's only deployed 1000 of 'em total
17:38 <@Eimann> djbsquared: http://83.243.0.9:8080/ is running for the european users
17:38 <@djbsquared> i see
17:38 < senex> My mirror, http://shlang.com/, was getting some use (about 12Mb/s at one point), but now is idle.
17:38 < blanu> If anyone can hook me up with a video feed that will stay up for 24 hours, I'll archive video and host it.
17:38 <@Eimann> djbsquared: it would be easier, if directnic runs DSS ;)
17:38 < tsal> hm.. what clients should be able to play the VLC feeds?
17:38 <@djbsquared> ha
17:38 < blanu> We have Internet2 bandwidth here.
17:38 < macjunkie> is there still any demand for a pictures mirror? i can't run vlc or wmv
17:38 < Torg> WMP can for sure tsal.
17:38 < uidzero> I have a server on ads3 If anyone needs something.
17:38 < maswan> tsal: windows media player apparently have that
17:38 < jd33021> tsal: so far only wmp on windows/os x
17:38 < senex> Yog, about $1M to equip one with some cards.  We have 12 of those.
17:38 < Mrdini> Eimann, thanks! *thumbs up*
17:38 < Plaid> I'm a network engineer and *nix/win systems guy. If theres anything I can do to help.
17:38 <@X15> DSS can't do MMS, so we have to use VLC or WMS, it's abit of a pain
17:38 < spectros> k...what kind of mirror needs
17:39 < tsal> for some reason
17:39 <@Yog-home> senex: yeh I'm sure a OC192 PIC card is $$$$ too
17:39 < theagent> it wouldn't be a pain if we could get DSS on the host machine
17:39 < tsal> i cant open the streams in wmp
17:39 < senex> blanu: I'm a network engineer at Internet2: http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/
17:39 < Nac-SirParadox> We're still working on version 1
17:39 < asmith> heh
17:39 <@jebba> did anyone figure out the avisynth.dll   issue with vlc mirrors?
17:39 < uidzero> I have server coloed on ds3.
17:40 < tsal> okay, now its working..
17:40 < senex> Yog, the cards are most of the cost.  The chassis costs about as much as one card.
17:40 < jd33021> tsal: go to Open URL: http://foo.webmeta.com:8080
17:40 <@jebba> i even have it transcoding and it's still foo
17:40 <@Yog-home> senex: i've always wanted to work for an ISP so I could play with some big iron
17:40 < tsal> heh.
17:40 < blanu> senex: Awesome. I'm at ACTLab TV, which is at the University of Texas at Austin.
17:40 < spectros> hey..if I can help with mirroring something I will, just PM me with what to do
17:40 <@Eimann> jebba: vlc doesn't send the correct mime-type
17:40 < tsal> normal every day traffic, other than the LAV driving down the wrong side of the road..
17:40 <@Eimann> Nac-SirParadox: hm. i'll try vls again on the nacnet servers
17:40 <@Yog-home> senex: I thought the 6500s we had at my last job @ $300k ish were spendy :)
17:40 < Nac-SirParadox> k
17:40 <@Yog-home> senex: nothing compared to core stuff
17:40 <@NACAlex> yog
17:41 <@NACAlex> this is not #cisco
17:41 < blanu> We do Internet TV streams and we're trying to get Katrina/NOLA footage to show, but we haven't managed to get anyone to send us anything yet.
17:41 <@NACAlex> we're trying to work here
17:41 <@NACAlex> don't need to talk about hardware
17:41 < senex> Now, my load never goes above 2Mb/s.  Somebody, give me some transcoded mpg and avi files I could mirror!
17:41 <@Yog-home> NACAlex: ??? this channel was created for techy talk
17:41 < jd33021> we really need people to be looking through vlc docs and google to see if we can find a solution to these problems
17:41 < maswan> jebba: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch03.html says that you should be able to specify "mime=<mime type>"
17:41 < uidzero> Anything I can do to help?
17:41 < MatthewA1> ok, I have two working video mirrors of the 194.97.144.25 feed: mms://no-stream.fwl.oregonstate.edu/no and mms://nash-arcims.fwl.oregonstate.edu/no
17:42 <@jnagro> bwteen 3 and 4 pm my picture mirror pushed 13gigs
17:42 < MatthewA1> trying to NLB them, but not going so well
17:42 < ScytheBlade1> jd33021, what problems in specific? I'm willing to go searching for a while
17:42 < jd33021> maswan: good catch, i'll try that now
17:42 <@jnagro> i've done 47gb today so far
17:42 < eMoose> Dynamic updating distributed katrina photos mirror project: http://katrina.moose.to/  mini-HOWTO available as well.
17:42 < maswan> ah, the oregonstate feed works for me. great.
17:42 <@Eimann> maswan: thx for the link, will try that
17:42 < jd33021> can anyone confirm what the correct mime-type should be?
17:42 < maswan> MatthewA1: what are you using? can you give a recipe?
17:42 <@Yog-home> who is the schlong anyway ?
17:42 < MatthewA1> WMS
17:42 < tsal> jd33021: just got dropped
17:42 < maswan> MatthewA1: ah, ok. no use to me then. :)
17:43 <@Eimann> jd33021: video/x-ms-asf
17:43 < MatthewA1> maswan: what are you working on?
17:43 < jd33021> tsal: i killed the feed while i try the mime-type option
17:43 < uidzero> http://katrina.moose.to/ I'm working on this now.
17:43 < tsal> ah
17:43 < maswan> MatthewA1: linux
17:43 < MatthewA1> maswan: darwin or vlc?
17:43 <@Eimann> 83.243.0.9:8080 is going down for mim-type change now
17:43 < maswan> MatthewA1: vlc
17:43 < tsal> hey, it works in firefox now, jd33021
17:43 < maswan> lets see if that mime= thingie is going to help
17:43 < eMoose> uidzero: come to #katrina.moose.to
17:43 < uidzero> FreeBSD here.
17:44 < MatthewA1> maswan: sorry, cant be much help there....darwin, yes
17:44 < tsal> before, it had no clue what the stream was :)
17:44 < Torg> Nice find on the mime type, looks like it worked!
17:44 < tsal> someone post that in the wiki
17:44 < tsal> the vlc command line, that is
17:44 < jd33021> new vlc command line is:
17:44 < theagent> no reference to the source IP on the wiki
17:44 <+fr4nk> damnit ...
17:44 < addp009> ok guys
17:44 < abuser> woo FreeBSD
17:44 < addp009> i got a sopcast up
17:45 < jd33021>  vlc http://64.124.159.242/no --sout #std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=foo.webmeta.com:8080,mime="video/x-ms-asf"
17:45 <@Yog-home> jnagro: the rsync is going a lot faster now
17:45 < theagent> WOW a sopcast... the privileged few
17:45 <+fr4nk> i'm sitting here trying to remember where how to use zipspan
17:46 < jd33021> sorry, that should actually be: vlc http://64.124.159.242/no --sout '#std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=foo.webmeta.com:8080,mime="video/x-ms-asf"'
17:46 <@jnagro> Yog-home: maybe less people on it
17:46 < tsal> jeebus
17:47 < tsal> the rsync's up to 6,000 images
17:47 < ScytheBlade1> 0_0
17:47 < tsal> and that's just katrina/
17:47 < tsal> i haven't even gotten to katrina2/
17:47 <@jnagro> katrina3 will be up soon
17:47 <@MrPants> is anybody mirroring these photos? http://www.tacular.com/katrina/kat20050901%20part%202/ i didn't see them in any of the sets that are up on the web mirrors / rsync
17:47 < Roy> how do they still have internet?
17:47 < Roy> is it a wireless internet?
17:47 <@Yog-home> jnagro: do you have all the pix under one dir ?
17:47 <@MrPants> but i don't know that the name i have is the same as what it is elsewhere
17:47 <+fr4nk> er zipsplit
17:47 < Torg> Roy, they still have a working fiber connection.
17:47 <@Eimann> jd33021: it's still sending application/octet-stream
17:48 <@jnagro> Yog-home: no, just those two at the moment, would a single dir work well?
17:48 < Cloak> MrPants: I am and they are up
17:48 < Roy> that didnt get damaged?
17:48 < Torg> Right.
17:48 < Torg> They had more, but they are down to just the one now.
17:48 <@Eimann> MrPants: they're somewhere on mirrors.rrbone.net i think
17:48 <@Yog-home> jnagro: hrm.. not sure what's out ther enow
17:48 < Roy> o
17:48 < jd33021> you're right, it is..
17:48 < jd33021> killing it again
17:48 <@MrPants> ok
17:49 < Torg> Roy, this isn't a small webhost... they were a big facility =)
17:49 < abuser> "were"  -- theyre offline now?
17:49 <@Yog-home> jnagro: u have katrina, katrina2 right ?
17:49 <@Eimann> jd33021: i think :#mime= should work
17:49 < Roy> is there any way to get more lines fixed?
17:49 < Torg> Heh, my bad... they are still up.
17:49 < MstkSeance> http://www.mstkseance.com/katrina mirroring a lot, working on uploading more
17:49 < Torg> I heard that they were hosting 800,000 websites there.
17:49 < Torg> Dunno about hte accuracy of that statement though.
17:49 < Roy> o
17:49 <@Eimann> jd33021: hm, isn't working
17:50 < abuser> 90% were probably just placeholders / static though
17:50 < Torg> Yeah, prolly.
17:50 <@berniv6> can anyone have a look whether mms://svr02.teleport-iabg.de:8088 (IPv6 enabled) is running okay (besides the mime-thing)?
17:50 < Torg> They were hosting somethingawful.com up until yesterday though... that's no small site.
17:50 <@jnagro> Yog-home: katrina, katrina2
17:50 <@NACAlex> that MMS is working for me
17:50 < MatthewA1> berniv6: i get it....slow though
17:50 < Roy> is tehre security around the building?
17:51 < abuser> minimal
17:51 <@berniv6> hrm, well it is located in Germany, but speed should be okay
17:51 < MatthewA1> now its ok
17:51 < abuser> most people around the building have left from what Ive seen
17:51 < Torg> They have the building locked down, and are doing patrols of it, roy.
17:51 < jgrafton> hm.  trying to use my own vlc is still giving errors on avisynth...
17:51 < jd33021> mime type is still application/octet-stream
17:51 < abuser> I wouldnt go near there though - they got machine gunbs
17:51 < Roy> what other companies are in the same building?
17:52 < theagent> Roy, you can ask all this kind of stuff in #interdictor-chat, this is for technical discussions regarding the infrastructure and support
17:52 < abuser> which is a shame, we only have shotguns in our datacenter
17:52 < Roy> oh my bad
17:52 < jkellner> I believe the something awful forums are hosted in the same building they're in.
17:52 < Torg> In all fairness, roy's first question was technical =)
17:52 < royb> this is confusing.
17:52 < royb> hi roy!
17:53 < theagent> I'm fine with the discussion but once it starts it will never stop
17:53 < Roy> hello
17:53 < royb> heh.
17:53 < Roy> lol im just at work wasting the rest of my friday off
17:53 < MatthewA1> so is there a different video source we should all be using?
17:53 < Nac-SirParadox> Eimann: Windows box we promised is avail now
17:53 < theagent> how are we doing with updating the video link reference on the BLOG and Wiki?
17:54 < tsal> I don't know the details, or i'd be updating it myself, theagent
17:54 <@Eimann> Nac-SirParadox: Cool, i'll install an RemoteDesktop client on my linuxbox :)
17:54 < jgrafton> the mime option has no effect unless you're using access=http, I think...
17:54 < Nac-SirParadox> heh
17:54 < Nac-SirParadox> joking or serious?
17:54 < theagent> well, it's not worth updating if the DNS issues haven't been dealt with
17:54 < abuser> how many DNS servers right now?
17:54 < maswan> jgrafton: yes, but according to documentation "Item options are the same as for the http module." for mssh
17:54 < maswan> mmsh
17:55 <@Eimann> Nac-SirParadox: Serious, there's no native RemoteDesktop support in KDE or so yet ;-))
17:55 < tsal> what's the dns issue?
17:55 < Nac-SirParadox> doesn't vnc do that?
17:55 < Nac-SirParadox> what you doing with a linux desktop anyway
17:55 < tsal> I can set up an xfr
17:55 < jkellner> rdesktop is superior to vnc :)
17:55 < maswan> not that it seems to be using it for http either. :/
17:55 < Torg> agreed, jkellner
17:55 < theagent> we need a single URL for the video feed mirrors....   and deal with balancing at the DNS
17:56 < Nac-SirParadox> Eimann: But we can use WMS right?  Until vlc / DSS works right?
17:56 <@Yog-home> Eimann: u mean client ?  u can use rdesktop .. kde also has it's own remote desktop dealy
17:56 <@Eimann> Nac-SirParadox: right
17:56 < tsal> heh.
17:56 < tsal> microsoft claims vnc is spyware.
17:56 < jkellner> it is
17:56 < Torg> It sorta is.
17:56 < OldSchool> what provider is up?
17:56 <@Eimann> Yog-home: yeah, i'm using rdesktop already ;)
17:56 <@Yog-home> Eimann: unless u mean server.. u can serve up a desktop w/ vncserver
17:56  * tsal nods.
17:56 < theagent> microsloth is spyware
17:56 < jkellner> the remote end can see what you're doing and thus mess with you
17:56 < tsal> if the user doesnt know it's there.
17:56 < runner2> If vnc is spyware, then Windows is spyware ;)
17:56 < Torg> It hooks into video/mouse/keyboard drivers.
17:57 < Nac-SirParadox> I will see if I can make wms alive
17:57 < Torg> And you can setup VNC so the person doesn't even know your connected and watching.
17:57 <@Eimann> Nac-SirParadox: ok
17:57 < tsal> theagent, okay - would a round-robin work?
17:57 <+fr4nk> ok people http://atwork.tehcrew.com/picture2_01.zip.torrent <-> http://atwork.tehcrew.com/picture2_04.zip.torrent
17:57 < tsal> I can set something up on arikel.net's DNS
17:57 <+fr4nk> thats the second picture set
17:57 < Starblade|MKIII> Anyone know if there's an auto-refreshing image page of the cam?
17:57 < Plaid> round robin would be better than nothing.
17:57 < jgrafton> hm.... it was complaining earlier.  meh.
17:57 <@Yog-home> jnagro: it appears there's now a 3rd set of pictures
17:57 < jkellner> well we set up this rebroadcast of the stream, have at it
17:57 < jkellner> mms://zip.nevernet.com/no
17:57 <@jnagro> Yog-home: yup
17:57 < theagent> I'm not on the control side of the DNS... there were some discussions earlier from someone with load balancing capability
17:57 < jkellner> I'm going home :)
17:57 < tsal> fr4nk: post that on the wiki, will ya?
17:57 <@Yog-home> jnagro: http://www.nola-intel.org/pictures3
17:58 <@Eimann> Nac-SirParadox: I think, we can experiment on the Windowsbox with transcoding stuff to get the wmv stream into mpeg4. then we can stream it with DSS.
17:58 < eMoose> Dynamic updating distributed katrina photos mirror project: http://katrina.moose.to/  mini-HOWTO available as well.
17:58 <@jnagro> yeah i am mirroing that now
17:58 <@Yog-home> ah :)
17:58 <+fr4nk> yea i can do that
17:58 <@jnagro> http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina3
17:59 <+fr4nk> cant edit main page of the wiki
17:59 <+fr4nk> jnagro that rsyncable?
17:59 <@Yog-home> i'm still rsyncing katrina2 :)
17:59 <@jnagro> fr4nk: not yet
17:59 < jgrafton> [00000309] main private warning: option mime is unknown
17:59 <@speakit> jnagro, completed?
17:59 < theroamer> pics mirror at http://www.realeyesdesign.com/katrina and http://www.realeyesdesign.com/katrina2
17:59 <@jnagro> speakit: not yet
17:59 <+fr4nk> ok
17:59 < theroamer> if anyone wants to add those to the list
18:00 <@Eimann> i'm also rsyncing katrina2 but can setup an rsyncd, if it is completed
18:00 <@jnagro> katrina2 is complete
18:00 <@jnagro> katrina3 is not
18:00 < icculus> Can someone add http://nola-intel.icculus.org/photos/ to the wiki for photo mirroring?
18:00 <+lexi__> ok, i am able to provide a MPEG stream, give me 10 minutes
18:00 < runner2> how about you just set up 1 page, spread over different webservers (if the load is too high for 1) and then forward people randomly to a feed ?
18:00 <@Eimann> lexi__: do u have access to nettlau?
18:01 <+lexi__> Eimann: no
18:01 <@Eimann> hm. ok
18:01 < Daenil> on katrina3, 3/4 of the pic are broken
18:01 <@jnagro> Daenil: its not complete yet
18:01 <@X15> runner2: going up now
18:02 < Daenil> rgr
18:02 <@NACAlex> all who mirror the pics
18:02 <@NACAlex> pictures3 is now there
18:02 < Plaid> who has the DNS control for nola-intel domain?
18:02 <@Yog-home> i love firefox..but man, it can be piggy with RAM
18:02 < runner2> x15 : ok... how many hits/second do you expect ?
18:02  * speakit wget is around 20x.jpg at the moment
18:02 < amortalkiller> http://mirror.lakefrontit.com/katrina2/
18:02 <@X15> alot
18:02 < tsal> okay
18:02 < Daenil> sometimes FF takes 90+%processor
18:02 <@X15> It's gonna start going out all over...
18:02 < senex> NACAlex: Where?
18:02 <@NACAlex> bandwidthis off the hook
18:02 < runner2> x15 : lol... how many servers are you using just for the web ?
18:02 <@NACAlex> filling a 100 meg/sec port
18:02 < tsal> Who has access to edit the wiki main page?
18:03 < tsal> we need a page for Torrents
18:03 <@Yog-home> it likes to hold on to memory too
18:03 <@NACAlex> x15, i think
18:03 <@Eimann> @ERROR: Unknown module 'katrina3' ;)
18:03 <@NACAlex> http://www.nola-intel.org/pictures3/
18:03 < tsal> X15:  Can we make a page for Torrents?
18:03 <@speakit> katrina1 and katrina2 complete are also on nola.blagblagblag.org, also with rsync
18:03 <@X15> I don't have access to the wiki main page :(
18:03 <@Eimann> speakit: thanks
18:03 <@X15> 6 hosts in the ASX right now
18:03 < senex> NACAlex: should we mirror using HTTP?  Or wait for rsync access?
18:03 < maswan> can we have one rsync location with katarina[23] as subdirectories?
18:03 < tsal> X15, any idea who does?
18:04 <@jnagro> maswan: thats a decent idea
18:04 < runner2> X15 : just for redirection to the feeds ? Or for the pictures too ?
18:04 < maswan> and all the future ones, so I can leave an rsync cron job and then get all the new stuff tomorrow when I'm not here
18:04 <+fr4nk> seeds on second set down for a sec
18:04 <@jnagro> senex: rsync access on my box is ideal
18:04 <@X15> runner2: the feeds
18:04 < runner2> wow
18:04 < tsal> someone with lots of bandwidth who's already synced, can you set up that mirror request from maswan?
18:04  * Eimann is waiting for rsync access to katrina3
18:04 <@X15> Doofoo is all i know on the wiki
18:04 < senex> jnagro: So, where do I mirror from?
18:05 < tsal> and doofoo is asleep.
18:05 < amortalkiller> http://mirror.lakefrontit.com/katrina
18:05 < tsal> fr4nk: For now, post the Torrent feeds on the InfoDump page
18:05 <@speakit> maswan: feel free: rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/
18:05 < maswan> speakit: thanks
18:05 <@jnagro> rsync east-boston.utopus.net::everything
18:05 <@jnagro> someone try it
18:06 < maswan> speakit: only 300k?
18:06 <@jnagro> katrina3 is still comming down
18:06 <@NACAlex> ok
18:06 <@NACAlex> it's up
18:06 < maswan> ah, never mind
18:06 < ScytheBlade1> hmm, my rsync just *died*
18:06 < Cloak> rsync: failed to connect to east-boston.utopus.net: Connection refused (111)
18:06 < Cloak> rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(94)
18:06 < maswan> speakit: sorry, didn't have a trailing .
18:06 < senex> jnagro: rsync: failed to connect to east-boston.utopus.net: Connection refused
18:06 < amortalkiller> same here
18:06 < ScytheBlade1> same error
18:06 <@berniv6> same
18:06 <+fr4nk> tsal ok
18:06 <@jnagro> sorry, cycled it, last time it will happen
18:06 < ScytheBlade1> looks like it's down :)
18:06 < ScytheBlade1> np
18:07 <@jnagro> from now on, the most complete version is 'everything'
18:07 < Cloak> still broken
18:07 <@jnagro> that will contain all the mirrors
18:07 < tsal> heh, jnagro, did you just restart rsyncd ?
18:07 <@jnagro> its working
18:07 < Cloak> everything will create the dirs from that point down, right?
18:07 < senex> jnagro, it's still refusing connections.
18:07 <@jnagro> tsal: yeah, sorry
18:07 < ScytheBlade1> There
18:07 < ScytheBlade1> It's back up
18:07 < Cloak> receiving file list ... done
18:07 < Cloak> skipping non-regular file "katrina"
18:07 < Cloak> skipping non-regular file "katrina2"
18:07 < Cloak> skipping non-regular file "katrina3"
18:07 <@jnagro> everything has everyting in it
18:07 < senex> jnagro: it's up
18:07 <@jnagro> Cloak: thanks, lemme check
18:07 < tsal> jnagro
18:07 < tsal> don't use symlinks
18:07 < tsal> or tell rsyncd to follow them
18:08 < maswan> Cloak: remember -a (or -r and some others)
18:08 < Cloak> rsync --recursive -v east-boston.utopus.net::everything ./  is how I'm running it
18:08 < Cloak> I've actually never used rsync, that's what I pieced together
18:08 < tsal> i used -rav and that just downloaded the symlinks
18:09 < tsal> rsync -rav east-boston.utopus.net::everything ./ is what I tried.
18:09 < maswan> r and a is redundant, a implies r
18:09  * Eimann is syncing katrina3 now.
18:09 <@jnagro> tsal: i gotta tell rsync to follow syms
18:09  * tsal nods.
18:10 < senex> jnagro: rsync -va doesn't do anything for me, other than creating a symlink for katrina3
18:10 < OvrLrdQ> rsync -vaHx --progress --numeric-ids east-boston.utopus.net::everything ./
18:10 < OvrLrdQ> try that
18:10 <@jnagro> senex: everything is flaky while i figure out the symlinks
18:11 < sommerfeld> you may want -L to copy link targets instead of making a link
18:11 <@jnagro> sommerfeld: on the client or the server?
18:11 < maswan> sommerfeld: that's on the client
18:11 < sommerfeld> on the client
18:11 < maswan> sommerfeld:  symlink has no referent: "/katrina3" (in everything)
18:11 < maswan> sommerfeld: in this case
18:11 <@NACAlex> ok
18:12 <@NACAlex> are they arch's of the mirrors the same as the source
18:12 <@NACAlex> like /pictures, /pictures2, etc?
18:12 < abuser> rsync -anv
18:12 <@jnagro> NACAlex: where are you refering too?
18:12 <+fr4nk> ok torrents added to the wiki
18:12 < jd33021> well guys - I'm stumped on forcing the mime-type in VLC. It's a documented option but it doesn't seem to actually work. Can anyone find an example of someone else using it?
18:12 < sommerfeld> if there's a symlink at the source which points at a file/directory, -L should cause the target of the link to be copies
18:12 < sommerfeld> copied
18:12 < Nac-SirParadox> who can walk me through
18:12 < Nac-SirParadox> WMS
18:12 < maswan> jd33021: I ended up with the same thing. :/
18:12 < Nac-SirParadox> pulling from a mms:// and re-broadcasting
18:13 < maswan> sommerfeld: yes, but he might be doing use chroot, with targets outside the chroot?
18:13 < tsal> sommerfeld: it ain't workin, no referent using -L
18:13 < Mrdini> jd33021, tried #vlc ?
18:13 < eMoose> static copies of photo archives does no good if the source is updated.
18:13 < eMoose> Dynamic updating distributed katrina photos mirror project: http://katrina.moose.to/  mini-HOWTO available as well.
18:13 < sommerfeld> then the source is busted.
18:13 < Cloak> but yours assumes you're running apache, right eMoose?
18:13 < MatthewA1> sirpaddox: i have it working
18:13 < jgrafton> #vlc on freenode is... empty
18:13 < icculus> Hmm...ctrl-w closes the tab instead of deleting the last typed word.  :)
18:13 < sommerfeld> should not be able to get at data outside the chroot even if you're symlinking
18:14 < Mrdini> sorry, #videolan
18:14 < sommerfeld> you need to get the admin of the source to fix that
18:14 <+fr4nk> on the info dump
18:14 <@jnagro> sommerfeld: which source?
18:14 < sommerfeld> the server you're pulling frmo
18:14 < jd33021> mrdini: that's a good idea
18:15 < eMoose> Cloak: you can just run Squid to do it.
18:15 < eMoose> you don't even need apache.
18:15 < Cloak> are you actually talking about mirroring the files locally or just using squid to link them remotely?
18:15 <@NACAlex> ok
18:15 <@NACAlex> i am driving home
18:15 <@NACAlex> i will be available in about an hour to help you
18:15 <@NACAlex> er, out
18:15 <@NACAlex> but for the moment, the shit is up
18:16 <@NACAlex> but slow
18:16 <@NACAlex> the wiki is banging
18:16 < eMoose> Cloak: using squid, and I have a central machine with squid+apache/mod_proxy that makes all the popular photo sites appear under a single hostname.
18:16 <@NACAlex> the streams are streaming, etc.
18:16 < vuori> ok, if no one came up with it yet I have a working vlc transcoder now
18:16 < maswan> vuori: neat, can you post it and we can try reflecting and using that? or don't you have enough bandwidth?
18:17 < vuori> Where's a working source currently and what bitrate?
18:17 <@X15> http://www.nola-intel.org/nola.asx
18:17 < mayo> i see tampabusiness.com/directnic is getting swamped .. err just died
18:17 < vuori> Let me test that first
18:17 < eMoose> cloak: #katrina.moose.to
18:17 < jd33021> vuori: http://64.124.159.242/no
18:17 < OvrLrdQ> http://www.thedarkcitadel.com/mirror/nola/links.html will update automagically with any urls overheard in the main and -digest channels
18:17 < maswan> vuori: yeah, the http://64.124.159.242/no works for me
18:18 < MatthewA1> works here too
18:18 < jd33021> so far no response in #videolan
18:18 < tsal> okay
18:18 <@Eimann> rsync mirrors.rrbone.net:: - Online now.
18:18 < tsal> i just made a bunch of updates to the InfoDump page on the wiki to make it more readable.
18:19 < tsal> eimann, full mirror? alll 3?
18:19 <@Eimann> tsal: jepp
18:19 < dantekgeek> gah
18:19 < dantekgeek> I can't get any of the video feeds to work
18:19 < vuori> Not happy at nola-intel.org, let's try the ohter one
18:20 < tsal> wow
18:20 <@X15> did we ever get the distributed image mirror online?
18:20 < tsal> eimann, your bandwidth is handling the rsync better :)
18:20 < Starblade|MKIII> If someone could set up a page that could screen capture the feed every minute or so and save it to a jpeg, that would really help those of us unable to view the live feed.
18:20 < crawl> anyone have the advection.net stream link?
18:20 < tsal> x15, yes: http://katrina.moose.to
18:20 <@X15> http://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf
18:21 < dantekgeek> It gives me an error with both wmp and vlc
18:21 <@Eimann> tsal: ok :)
18:21 <@Eimann> nice to hear
18:21 < Cloak> looks like they've setup another pic host of their own there
18:21 < vuori> ok, it's working, what's the bitrate for the stream from 64.124.159.242?
18:21 < Cloak> http://www.tampabusiness.com/directnic/index2.html
18:21 < vuori> I'm probably using overkill now
18:21 < eMoose> X15: it's up and working
18:22 < eMoose> X15: http://katrina.moose.to/
18:22 < eMoose> we just need to bring more caches online now.
18:22 < abuser> caches of what
18:22 <@jnagro> eMoose: streams or photos?
18:22 < jd33021> vuori: I think someone said it's 261k
18:22 < eMoose> photos.
18:22 <@jnagro> we have enough photo mirrors
18:22 < jd33021> but not sure
18:22 < eMoose> static photo mirrors. :(
18:22 <@jnagro> eMoose: east-boston.utopus.net isnt even near capacity
18:22 < tsal> we still need access to edit the root page of the wiki
18:23 < dantekgeek> anyone have a feed sucsessfully working on wmp or vlc on OS X?
18:23 <@X15> Just posted it to the blog
18:23 < eMoose> jnagro: no harm in adding lots of mirrors for it.
18:23 < theagent> mine runs fine on wmp for OSX
18:23 < dantekgeek> what feed?
18:23 < Mrdini> theagent,, linky?
18:24 < theagent> http://64.124.159.242/no
18:25 < Mrdini> yay! ta :)
18:25 < theagent> dantekgeek, what are you doing slumming around here... get back to #joiito
18:25 < vuori> ok, transcode to 270kbps MPEG4 seems to be ok
18:25 < Starblade|MKIII> Are there any feeds running anything other then an asf file?
18:25 < eMoose> abuser: join #katrina.moose.to
18:25 < dantekgeek> theagent: I'm slumming and transcribing
18:25 < theagent> NO and ASF sucks
18:25 < jd33021> vuori: what's doing the transcoding?
18:25 < vuori> I have bandwidth, but it's rather far away. Does anyone have a machine capable of rebroadcast in the US?
18:25 < Starblade|MKIII> I can't view any of the feeds.
18:25 < vuori> jd33021, vlc
18:25 < ScytheBlade1> Starblade|MKIII, what's the error?
18:26 < theagent> vuori what is doing your transcoding?  ffmpeg?
18:26 <@jebba> vuori, details please!
18:26 < vuori> vlc with the dmo plugin and ffmpeg, yes
18:26 <@jebba> vuori, what's the command line you're running?
18:26 < Starblade|MKIII> I'm not on a windows machine, only have access to an old version of rplayer that doesn't seem to like asf
18:26 < ScytheBlade1> ah
18:26 < maswan> vuori: if I can get it working, I'd be happy to run a mirroring vlc from your feed.
18:26 <+fr4nk> jnagro can you let me know when all of the 3rd picture set so i can torrent it
18:26 < theagent> Starblade|MKIII, what platform?
18:27 < maswan> hmm.. the closest I've gotten to "a pic every 25 seconds" is "25 pics per second" out of the video. :)
18:27 < Starblade|MKIII> Solaris 9
18:27 < Starblade|MKIII> :-P
18:27 <@jnagro> fr4nk: sure thing
18:27 <+fr4nk> and someone who can update the main page may want to add the torrents
18:28 <@Eimann> Starblade|MKIII: masochist ;)
18:28 < theagent> I think there is a VLC port for solaris
18:28 < Starblade|MKIII> Too bad there isn't anything that will just run in a browser.
18:28 < icculus> jnagro: the "everything" module on your rsync only has a "BROKEN" directory. Did we go back to seperate modules?
18:28 < Starblade|MKIII> Eimann: Not running this by choice. :-P
18:28 <@jnagro> icculus: for the moment yes
18:28 < theagent> if we could get a good mpeg4 feed it wouldn't be a problem for you
18:28 < icculus> jnagro: thanks
18:28 < vuori> vlc -vvv rtsp://source/whatever --sout 'rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://your.ip:8900/}' will do an RTSP rebroadcast
18:29 < theagent> there we rtsp
18:29 < theagent> there we go, rtsp
18:29 < tsal> Starblade|MKIII: what platform on Sol 9?
18:29 <@jnagro> i will be back in an hour
18:29 <@jnagro> pager@utopus.net if you need me
18:29 <@Eimann> Starblade|MKIII: ok ;)
18:29 <+fr4nk> Filter.eu.org and Softcheese.net avaiable for hosting. 30GB+ space, unlimited transfer, 1GBPS pipe. Dynamic sites avaiable. Email sweeper@filter.eu.org, or aleks@jpiworldwide.com  <-- anyone talk to this guy?
18:30 < theagent> run a Xnest session on Solaris to a linux box somewhere
18:30 < Starblade|MKIII> Gnome 2.0 on a Sun Blade V480
18:31 <@jebba> vuori, but what rtsp:// source are you getting it from?
18:31 < maswan> fr4nk: hunting people down for hosting seems a bit over the top
18:31 < vuori> jebba, I'm using one of the windows media sources
18:31 < Starblade|MKIII> tsal
18:31 <+fr4nk> he posted on the wiki
18:31 < theagent> vuori is transcoding from a WMA source
18:31 <@jebba> vuori, URL please? I only have http:// ones
18:31 <+fr4nk> they were looking for > 500mbit connections
18:31 <+fr4nk> earler
18:31 < tsal> yessir?
18:31 < tsal> oh, yeah
18:31 < vuori> I'm waiting for a policy statement from the owners of this network regarding bandwidth, but if someone can set up a reflector (from a UDP source) now, I can send a feed there immediately
18:31 < tsal> sorry, if you were on intel, i might coulda helped :)
18:32 < maswan> vuori: Ok, if you give me your source, I'll setup a reflector (if your line works anyway)
18:32 < Starblade|MKIII> tsal: Unfortunately not.
18:32 < theagent> who still has a DSS server installed
18:32 < vuori> maswan, I'll just need your ip so I can send you a stream
18:32 <@jebba> theagent, I have dss installed
18:32 < theagent> setup DSS to accept the mpeg4 rtsp stream from vuori
18:32 < vuori> The vlc incantation is vlc -vvv udp: --sout 'rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://your.ip:8900/}' to listen on port 1234 and reflect that
18:32 < maswan> vuori: farbror.acc.umu.se has address 130.239.18.151
18:33 < maswan> vuori: ok, running now. I hope. :)
18:33 <@X15> Wait, do we have a realtime transcode going?
18:33 < theagent> vuori has one working
18:33 < theagent> VLC with ffmpeg and another plugin
18:34 <@Eimann> waoh, cool :)
18:34 <@Eimann> i'll try to add it to the DSS servers
18:34 < theagent> none of my boxes are fast enough to do that well
18:34 <@X15> Heh, we think alike
18:34 < maswan> not that I seem to have a player locally that deals with rtsp, but I'll look a bit further
18:34 < theagent> quicktime support rtsp
18:34 <@Eimann> should we use one of the nac.net boxes for transcoding?
18:34 < theagent> vlc support rtsp
18:34 < maswan> theagent: I'm sitting on Ubuntu Linux
18:35 < vuori> ok, there should be a stream rolling to 130.239.18.151:1234
18:35 <@X15> Ein: Other chan
18:35 < tsal> mmmm. ubuntu.
18:35 < maswan> vuori: ok, so shoould rtsp://130.239.18.151:8900/ work then? or?
18:35 < tsal> i prefer gentoo, but like ubuntu.
18:36 < vuori> maswan, if you started the vlc incatantation above, yes
18:36 < maswan> can anyone verify this?
18:36 < vuori> And there's no fun stuff like firewalls there to block my input (-:
18:36 < vuori> Let me try it
18:36 < vuori> Connection refused
18:36 < maswan> yeah, so something broke
18:36 < tsal> later
18:36 < tsal> heading home
18:36 < vuori> You replaced your.ip in the command line there? (-:
18:37 < maswan> ehm.
18:37 < tsal> fr4nk: I'll start the torrents when i get on the broadband at home.
18:37 < maswan> lets see..
18:37  * maswan hunts typos etc
18:37 < maswan> [00000254] main stream output error: stream chained failed for `std{mux="",access="",url="rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://130.239.18.151:8900/}"}'
18:38 <+fr4nk> ok
18:38 < Cloak> jnagro: did you get that 'everything' rsync working?
18:38 < vuori> hm, what does your command look like?
18:38 < icculus> Cloak: he left for awhile, but no, not yet
18:38 < eMoose> 2 mirrors up: we need more! http://katrina.moose.to/
18:38 < Cloak> ok
18:38 < maswan> vlc -vvv udp: --sout 'rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://130.239.18.151:8900/}'
18:38 < vuori> Strange, I wonder what it's unhappy about
18:39 < maswan> [00000255] stream_out_standard private error: no access _and_ no muxer (fatal error)
18:39  * icculus rebuilds mplayer AGAIN with rtsp support. Stupid Gentoo.
18:39 < ScytheBlade1> icculus, I'm emerging it with USE="*". It makes things work well ;)
18:39 < vuori> Try putting #rtp
18:39 < jd33021> vuori: can you repeat the commandline you're using to do the transcoding?
18:39 < vuori> The --sout syntax is rather magical
18:39 < maswan> Segmentation fault
18:40 < maswan> whee!
18:40 < icculus> ScytheBlade1: huh, didn't know you could do that
18:40 < theagent> ouch seg fault
18:40 < ScytheBlade1> icculus, you can. I build mplayer and vlc with it, and then it supports....pratically everything.
18:40 < vuori> jd33021, if you want to be an RTSP source, ./bin/vlc -vvv http://64.124.159.242/no --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,acodec=mpga,vb=270,ab=80}:rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://foobar:8900/}'
18:41 < vuori> jd33021, and if you're not using windows, you'll need the plugin from http://clement.stenac.org/projects/videolan/dmo.html and the mplayer codec pack (or similar) in /usr/lib/win32 or /usr/local/lib/win32
18:42 < jd33021> vuori: yup, thanks - got the libdmo plugin already.. testing it now
18:42 <@X15> Any active RTSP currently?
18:42 <@X15> vuoris dosn't work
18:43 < vuori> Well, it works, but right now I'm unicasting at maswan since I don't have a permission to put out RTSP from the masters of teh local internet (-:
18:43 <@X15> maswan, you have a redirect for it?
18:43 < maswan> X15: that was the segmentation fault I just got. :/
18:43 < vuori> I think his vlc was having problems eating the stream
18:43 < maswan> trying to build a newer vlc now
18:44 < vuori> If I unicast at my home box, it works ok
18:44 <@X15> Aggh, need to test DSS
18:44 < theagent> unicast it to a DSS box
18:44 < vuori> Give me an address and you'll get it (-:
18:45 < theagent> Someone with a DSS server ready for a mp4 unicast please step up!
18:45 < vuori> Now I'm sending an MPEG Transport Stream and not RTP, but I can do RTP when I figure out the syntax
18:46 <@jebba> vuori, can you do it via http & mpeg ?
18:46 <@X15> theagent we have two
18:46 <@X15> on NAC
18:46 < Jsmith01> guys, who do i need to talk to about posting a mirror for the radio feeds?
18:46 <@jebba> the problem I had with that appeared to be the mime-type foo-ness
18:46 < PerlJunkie> If anyone comes up with a link discussing organized efforts requiring rapid software development or hardware setup for infrastructure recovery, pls cross post the link as a news item to #interdictor
18:46 <@X15> Jsmith: elaborate
18:47 < jgrafton> hrm.  so... I've been playing with vlc and asf (not been paying much attention here) and have made a little progress.  it seems you need to do something like vlc -v source --sout-http-mime video/x-ms-asf --sout '#std{access=http,mux=asf,url=:8080}'
18:47 < vuori> ok, I have permission to set up an RTSP mirror here
18:47 < vuori> I have no idea about vlc's http sout stuff
18:47 < Jsmith01> I've got the nola and fema feeds on a 100mbit connection setup for 1,000 users
18:47 <+lexi__> fine, so transcoding works now? fucked up straight here
18:47 < jgrafton> except that this seems to change the mime type when the access is http.  not when it is mmsh
18:47 <@X15> Jsmith: just post it to the wiki
18:47 < maswan> vuori: woot
18:47 < theagent> X15, who's configuring those DSS servers?
18:48 < jgrafton> so... something is clearly broken with vlc stuff.
18:48 < glaive> not sure if this is the right place but here goes: I only have cable but I would like to now if there is a torrent running to distrubute and if I could help in that manner?
18:48 < vuori> And here we go, rtsp://www.notcom.org:8900/
18:48 < vuori> (please mirror and don't pass that on too widely, since this is coming from Finland)
18:48 <+fr4nk> glaive
18:48 < Torg_> Doesn't work here vuori.
18:48 <+fr4nk> read the wiki
18:49 < vuori> What does it say?
18:49 <+fr4nk> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=InfoDump
18:49 < vuori> I can watch it from home
18:49 < theagent> I'm good from here... with that vuori
18:49 < theagent> connecting now
18:49 <+fr4nk> theres a torrent of all the pictures
18:49 < Torg_> "Invalid resource path strng in requested URL
18:49 < glaive> thnx fr4nk
18:49 <+fr4nk> if you want your welcome to help with them
18:49 < Edgan> vuori: doesn't work
18:49 < vuori> What player?
18:49 < Torg_> I'm using realplayer on MacOSX tiger.
18:49 <@X15> QT times out
18:49 < theagent> I'm using quicktime and its just spinning
18:50 < maswan> my vlc just scrolls TaskInterrupt
18:50 < jd33021> same here
18:50 < vuori> Well, this is lame
18:50 < jd33021> hang on..
18:51 < theagent> this is strange
18:51 < jd33021> there may still be firewall issues
18:51 <@X15> can anyone replicate vuoris work?
18:51 < ledder_> my client connected, started totem player and claimed i didn't have a codec to play that stream
18:51 < jd33021> i'm seeing port unreachables in tcpdump .. UDP 1237.. which correspond with the "TaskInterrupt" messages in the vlc player
18:51 < theagent> vuori, is the one with the magic.... needs to convey exact configuration for duplication
18:51 <+fr4nk> would cgi-irc be worthwhile for the network/
18:51 < vuori> I see quicktime player is giving 404
18:52 < vuori> Seems like open source lossage :P
18:52 < lcdd> Sending request: SETUP rtsp://85.188.1.75:8900//trackid=0 RTSP/1.0
18:52 < lcdd> Received SETUP response: RTSP/1.0 400 Bad Request
18:52 < Ray_SharedDaily> Hey all
18:52 < vuori> vlc is happy to play it, others aren't, apparently
18:53 < jd33021> well, vlc is not happy for me
18:53 < maswan> vuori: well, some vlcs. :)
18:53 < Ray_SharedDaily> anybody on here working on the mirrors etc>?
18:53 < vuori> ./bin/vlc -vvv rtsp://www.notcom.org:8900/ --sout 'rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://your.ip:8900/}' _should_ work (replace your.ip)
18:53 < Torg_> VLC on mac fails as well.
18:53 < vuori> I'm running vlc 0.8.2 on OS X and it's happy
18:54 < Torg_> mplayerosx fails here too.
18:54 < theagent> hmmm... I also have 0.8.2 on Tiger OSX and it's not happy with that stream
18:54 < jd33021> vuori - your client isn't outside the firewall though, is it?
18:54 < theagent> yeah... I'm getting a 404 in VLC
18:54 < vuori> There's no firewall, client is at home, server is at the machine room
18:55 < jd33021> hm
18:55 < maswan> hm
18:55 < Torg_> are you running NAT on the server side?
18:55 < maswan> could you try another of vlc's streaming formats, just in case?
18:55 < maswan> like http?
18:55 < ScytheBlade1> /whee
18:55 < vuori> No NAT
18:55 < vuori> Based on the log messages, someone's getting there
18:55 < ScytheBlade1> vuori, instead of prefixing your '/bin/vlc' line with a '.', just do '//bin/vlc'
18:56 < vuori> bah, I'll have to shut it down and fiddle with it a bit
18:56 < maswan> oh, right. I wonder if it might be that my client is behind nat. oops. I'll go check on the real computer.
18:56 < theagent> I can telnet to 8900 on that IP and get the http server to respond... so it's not a firewall issue
18:57 -!- icculus_ is now known as icculus
18:57 < jd33021> but why was my vlc client continuously retransmitting UDP traffic to vuori's server?
18:57 < jd33021> (i know nothing about rtsp - so forgive me if that's a dumb question)
18:58 <@Eimann> http://83.243.0.9:8080/ - it's now running with the correct mime-type
18:58 < theagent> Eimann, now reporting an error
18:59 < jd33021> WMP on OS X: "An error has occurred"
18:59 < MatthewA1> eimann: buffering forever
19:00 <@Eimann> MatthewA1: It takes a while to get a keyframe, mplayer on linux is working
19:00 <@X15> LMAO, Apples website has a link to Katrina relief that puts you in a LOOP!
19:01 < vuori> New URL is rtsp://www.notcom.org:8900/NO
19:01 < vuori> Quicktime player isn't happy, since it actually tries to use HTTP even though the URL is rtsp://
19:02 < jd33021> looking better
19:02 < jd33021> but still times out
19:02 < theagent> yeah... looks like it loads the buffer then times out
19:02 < jgrafton> hey, wow
19:02 <@speakit> http://nola.blagblagblag.org/  << updated and complete withe pictures1-3  rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/
19:02 < jgrafton> vlc does work with mplayer if you tell it to use http/asf
19:02 < maswan> vuori: yay! works for me!
19:03 < jgrafton> it just takes a while for the keyframe to come in
19:03 < Jsmith01> Can I get somebody to test out http://www.gundevils.com:8000/fema please
19:03 < Torg_> "A general error has occured" on osx with realplayer , vuori.
19:03 < vuori> jd33021, do you have a firewall?
19:03 < theagent> VLC on OSX
19:03 < theagent> livedotcom: PLAY failed No RTSP session is currently in progress
19:03 < theagent> livedotcom: TCP rollover failed, aborting
19:03 < vuori> Torg_, yes, I noticed, I suspect realplayer is not happy about MPEG4 video
19:04 < vuori> theagent, which version?
19:04 < Starblade|MKIII> jsmith01, my browser's downloading something from that link
19:04 <@X15> http://www.notcom.org:8900/NO Yeilds 404
19:04 < theagent> 0.8.2
19:04 < theagent> X15, http won't work, RTSP
19:04 < vuori> If you have firewalls, you may need to open ports to get the UDP stream
19:04 < Torg_> vlc 0.8.2 dies here too, same shit.
19:04 < vuori> X15, vlc's RTSP server probably doesn't like http requests
19:05 < theagent> I'm in the clear, nothing blocking me.
19:05 <@X15> It's pretty much the same thing as a RTSP
19:05 < vuori> I think everyone's life would be easier if someone managed to get DSS working or something (-:
19:05 <@X15> We need a feed for it
19:05 <@X15> and so far your the only one to conver it...
19:05 < maswan> X15: can it eat vuori's rtsp feed?
19:05 < theagent> trust me, I'm blue in the face from trying to get DSS on that camera host
19:05 < Torg_> heh, or at least got it installed on the camera host.
19:05 < vuori> I can send a direct RTP unicast
19:06 < vuori> It may be that vlc is trying to request a TCP stream and not UDP, and the stream output side doesn't support it
19:06 < vuori> I'm seeing requests for TCP streams in the output, with connections immediately getting closed
19:07 < maswan> hmm.. now vlc is unhappy about that again
19:08 <@jebba> vlc $URL  --sout '#std{access=http{mime=video/x-ms-asf},mux=asfh,url=blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081}'
19:08 < vuori> X15, if you have an RTP listener there, pass me the IP and port and I'll see if I can get something your way
19:08 <@jebba> ^^^^^^^^ appears to work.  Test with   http://blag40k.balgblagblag.org:8081
19:08 <@jebba> works with mplayer too
19:08 < jd33021> vuori: we have a PIX here, but it has fixup support for rtsp
19:08 <@X15> vuori: check pm
19:08 < vuori> ok
19:09 < vuori> Well, jebba's ASF streaming might be a more reliable solution. All raise hands for them open standards, since there's so many tastes to choose from (-;
19:09 < Torg_> I can't resolve that dns jebba.
19:09  * curiosity is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On]
19:09 <@jebba> Torg_, typo.  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081
19:10 < theagent> yeah, open standards would have solved this a LONG LONG time ago
19:10 < Torg_> "An error has occured" with wmp on OSX tiger.
19:10 < theagent> same here
19:10 < roo9> torg_: put a / on the URL
19:10 < Torg_> same thing roo9
19:10 < theagent> has one
19:11 < lcdd> vuori: i'm getting a picture from your stream with vlc on linux
19:11 <@X15> vu: you sending?
19:11 < ScytheBlade1> http://blag40k....... etc is giving mplayer crap...ie, "ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)
19:11 < ScytheBlade1> ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)
19:11 < ScytheBlade1> ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)
19:11 < ScytheBlade1> "
19:11 < ScytheBlade1> oops, sorry, one two many lines"\
19:11 <@jebba> ScytheBlade1, I got a bunch of those errors at first, then it started streaming in mplayer for me
19:11 < Jurian> haha, that actually BSOD'd my ghetto laptop
19:11 < Torg_> MplayerOSX starts buffering, but dies, jebba.
19:11 < maswan> ScytheBlade1: it starts streaming after a while, probably because it hasn't gotten a keyframe
19:12 < PerlJunkie> Can anyone tell me how to eliminate the signon/signoff noice in Chatzilla IRC client?
19:12 < PerlJunkie> s/noice/noise/
19:12 < ScytheBlade1> ah k, there we are
19:12 < ScytheBlade1> sorry for that then
19:12 <@jebba> that is just a direct mirror, no transcoding
19:13 < maswan> jebba: well, amazingly it appears to work for me. :)
19:13 < maswan> jebba: how did you do it?
19:13 < Shoragan> X15, i could try vlc too, we are using it to stream dvb-s, so i have experience with it
19:13 < jd33021> he found the right options line :)
19:13 < jgrafton> maswan: the trick is to use http instead of mssh
19:14 < jgrafton> er, mmsh.
19:14 <@jebba> maswan, I have no idea. My script is a zillion lines long with lots of tests commented out. But this is the direct line I'm using:
19:14 <@jebba> vlc $URL  --sout '#std{access=http{mime=video/x-ms-asf},mux=asfh,url=blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081}'
19:14 <@X15> Shoragan: if you would
19:14 < vuori> X15, should be incoming now
19:15 < jgrafton> I similarly have had success with vlc -v $URL --sout '#std{access=http,mux=asf,url=:8080}'
19:15 < Jurian> anyone considered asking some of the VLC devs to help? :)
19:15 < jgrafton> I was looking at the source for a bit
19:15 < Subground> What intersection is that in the cam feed (and that might be helpful in the faq)
19:15 < Subground> ?
19:15 < jd33021> Jurian: I hopped over to #videolan a while ago
19:15 -!- icculus_ is now known as icculus
19:15 < Jurian> jd33021: ah, any luck?
19:16 < jd33021> not really, but there was only one guy who was being helpful
19:16 < Torg_> jebba:  I can't connect with WMP9 on xp either.
19:16 < maswan> jebba: well, that seems horribly unhappy with your stream as input
19:16 < Jurian> shame :/
19:16 <@X15> not getting anything vuori
19:16 <@jebba> Torg_, try this one:  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8080   (perhaps with trailing /)
19:16 < vuori> ok, if other people are getting HTTP/ASF streaming to work (hopefully with transcoding so non-intel users can use it), perhaps we should note the battle with RTSP as lost (-:
19:16 <@jebba> (just a different port 8080 instead of 8081)
19:17 < Torg_> Nope, although it does give a new error.
19:17 < maswan> vuori: perhaps a HTTP/mp4 would be good for transcoding?
19:17 < vuori> X15, RTP is definitely going out
19:17 <@X15> eeep, server just went bonkers
19:17 <@jebba> vuori, I've been kicking transcoding around for a few /hours/ now and can't get it to work.
19:17 < Torg_> "server is not responding."
19:17 < vuori> jebba, what platform?
19:17 < maswan> vuori: rtsp might just be a bit too new and fancy?
19:18 < uidzero> We have more mirrors for http://katrina.moose.to.
19:18 < vuori> maswan, or it has too many bells and whistles or something (-:
19:18 < lcdd> vuori: well, rtsp is working for me right now
19:18 <@jebba> vuori, i'm serving & viewing on linux
19:18 < eMoose> uidzero: but we need more. :-)
19:18 < vuori> jebba, you have the libdmo plugin installed?
19:18 < jd33021> lcdd: clarify?
19:18 <@jebba> vuori, you mean w32codec ?
19:19 < OldSchool> out of curiosity what provider is it that is still up that directnic is using?
19:19 < theagent> whoever has the RTSP stream working please list OS/player
19:19 < ScytheBlade1> link to RTSP, I'll try everything I have
19:19 < vuori> X15, if you'd like an SDP to feed to your DSS
19:19 < maswan> jebba: libdmo is to use w32codec from vlc, by default it can't use that.
19:19 <@X15> ack, ok, kill your stream vuori
19:19 < vuori> jebba, http://clement.stenac.org/projects/videolan/dmo.html <- this one
19:19 < lcdd> jd33021: rtsp is fine with vlc as a client on linux
19:19 < vuori> It's dead
19:19 < ScytheBlade1> theagent, link to RTSP?
19:19 < swordstaind> feed 4  http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner is down
19:20 < uidzero> eMoose: Yes, yes, I know. :P
19:20 < jd33021> lcdd: what rtsp feed are you connecting to, vuori's?
19:20 <@jebba> vuori, I have the stock vlc from dries (FC4), no libdmo
19:20 < lcdd> jd33021: yes
19:20 < aschmitz> This may not be the right location for this, but I've got a torrent of all the pics I could find (cryptome, interdictor, and something else) on Azureus at dht://7DAEF6679B84275435C2E15800489E90B98E4961. I'm trying to upload to the pirate bay, but it's not working for me
19:20 < vuori> jebba, you'll want to download that plugin and probably put it into /usr/lib/vlc/lib/codec
19:20 < maswan> vlc here worked recently, but stopped now:
19:20 < maswan> [00000283] livedotcom demuxer error: PLAY failed No RTSP session is currently in progress
19:20 < aschmitz> I've got to go to dinner, but I'll be back
19:21 < aschmitz> (unfortunately, the pipe isn't very big, so some high-powered seeds would be nice)
19:21 < vuori> lcdd is a few hops away network-wise
19:22 < vuori> The rest of you are probably farther. There should be plenty of bandwidth, but the setup is sort of woolly so something might be losing too much to destinations farther away
19:22 < maswan> ehm
19:22 < maswan> this is interesting
19:22 < maswan> "vlc rtsp://www.notcom.org:8900/NO" fails, but "vlc -v rtsp://www.notcom.org:8900/NO" works
19:22 < Mrdini1> hmm, non-NOLA-related..... if I have issues with contacting several Hotmail addresses, what's the best way to contact hotmail tech? (i.e. NOT get a canned reply)
19:22 < bkdelong> Any update on a feed for Scanner 4?
19:23 < vuori> jebba, if you have mplayer installed, then you probably have the Windows DLLs already installed. Check if you have a bunch of files in /usr/lib/win32 or /usr/local/lib/win32
19:23 < vuori> Mrdini1, that's something a lot of mail server admins would like to know (-;
19:23 < vuori> maswan, it's the heisenbug!
19:23 < Torg_> Mrdini1, I'd give my left nut for that info =P
19:23 < Mrdini1> vuori, heh, wunderbar :P
19:24 <+lexi__> THIS SERVER IS FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY! shouldn't leave the channel.: mmsh://217.172.170.147:8080/
19:24 <+lexi__> MPEG4 over MMSH
19:24 < maswan> vuori: now, I wonder if I can take that and serve it up as a different access form.
19:24 <+lexi__> please feedback
19:24 <+lexi__> works with xine, vlc so far
19:24 < ScytheBlade1> lexi__, seems to be working in WMP
19:24  * Mrdini1 nukes hotmail
19:24 < ScytheBlade1> It needs a codec, but it'll stream
19:24 < MatthewA1> anyone in here who's on the oregonstate mirror, i'm going to reboot it
19:25 < Torg_> Lexi_:  Doesn't work on WMP, or MplayerOSX on tiger.
19:25 <+lexi__> great
19:25 < vuori> maswan, should work, just use jebba's incantation or similar and use the RTSP feed as source
19:25 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o michaelloftis] by ChanServ
19:25 <+lexi__> ok, pretty bad quality though
19:25 <@berniv6> lexi__: works, but the video quality is _really_ bad
19:25 <+nouv> michaelloftis:  hey
19:26 < maswan> vuori: wee
19:26 < maswan> http://farbror.acc.umu.se:8080/NO
19:26 < maswan> does this work for all you people?
19:26 < vuori> Is that MMSH?
19:26 < hfx_ben> '' <HeroicLife> this is the webmaster of www.mises.org - are the admins on?''
19:26 < Torg_> Lexi_: Doesn't work on WMP9 on XP either.
19:26 < hfx_ben> he's in #interdictor
19:26 < vuori> Or ASX or whatever
19:26 < OldSchool> not working for me, it require a certain ver of wmp?
19:26 < maswan> vuori: http/asf(?)
19:26 < jd33021> maswan: yes
19:27 < maswan> perhaps I'm setting the wrong mimetype or the wrong container or something. Hmm.
19:27 <+lexi__> hmm, the .edu asf feed went down
19:27 < maswan> OldSchool: regarding my URL?
19:27 < MatthewA1> lexi: the oregonstate.edu?
19:27 < vuori> Barbie says: Video streaming is hard. Let's go shopping.
19:27 < OldSchool> maswan: yeah
19:27 <+lexi__> where are lists the other asf feeds?
19:27 <+lexi__> MatthewA1, yeah
19:27 < maswan> OldSchool: Ok, taking it down to fiddle some.
19:27 < MatthewA1> lexi: rebooting it. should be back up now
19:27 <@X15> Use: mms://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf
19:27 < Torg_> vuori, barbie is right. =)
19:27 <+lexi__> MatthewA1, ok
19:29 < theagent> I swear this is so stupid.  Solve the problem in 10 minutes by installing DSS on the stupid camera host.
19:29 < Mrdini1> theagent, ask Donny?
19:29 < Torg_> He's tried for hours I think =P
19:29 < theagent> nobody is listening ... I tried earlier
19:30 < maswan> OldSchool: better now?
19:30 <@X15> It's sorta a moot point now, with the advection host...
19:30 < Starblade|MKIII> Donny is active in #interdictor now
19:31 < theagent> have we isolated the camera feed source to just advection and removed the myriad number of other users off the camera host itself?
19:31 <@X15> Pretty much
19:31 <@X15> The camera host is now propritary info
19:31 < OldSchool> Invalid name: http://farbror.acc.umu.se:8080/NO. The file name specified is incorrect. (Error=C00D002B)
19:31 < OldSchool> hmmm
19:31 < maswan> OldSchool: Ok. So not that either.
19:32 < maswan> OldSchool: try now?
19:32 < maswan> OldSchool: it should be a standard mp4 steam in an asf[h] container over http
19:32 < maswan> stream
19:33 < lcdd> vuori: funny, the udp stream just keeps coming even after i close the client
19:34 < maswan> I can't seem to get a connection to advection, but http://farbror.acc.umu.se:8080/NO works for me now. I'll check it in a few other clients and computers
19:34 < lcdd> i don't seem to have any way of stopping it
19:34 < vuori> lcdd, the client doesn't tell the server to shut up I suppose. Hopefully the server will stop sending you stuff after a while (-:
19:34 < vuori> When it doesn't hear from you anymore
19:34 <@jebba> maswan, http://farbror.acc.umu.se:8080/NO works for me
19:34 < maswan> and for me
19:35 < lcdd> vuori: i guess the devs were happy just to get it working :)
19:35 < jono__> fyi:
19:35 < jono__>  The Digital-ER list is dedicated to dicussing technical solutions to emergency and crisis management.
19:35 < jono__> http://lists.microshaft.org/mailman/listinfo/digital-er
19:35 < vuori> lcdd, probably
19:35 < maswan> for as long as vuori has that rtsp source up, I'll have that http version of that up too
19:35 <@jebba> vuori, any ideas on vlc setting mimetypes?
19:35 < OldSchool> still not workin for me heh, altho I am using wmp 6 =x
19:35 < vuori> jebba, sorry, had to deal with nickserv
19:35 < ScytheBlade1> jono__, a while ago, someone came in here and asked that if we found a link like that, we should post it in the main channel with that label
19:36 < vuori> To whoever was asking about mirroring the audio streams, I could set up whatevercast here but I'm too tired to do it tonight
19:36 < maswan> vuori: so, will that stay up?
19:37 < maswan> vuori: if so, I'll publish my http recast of it. :)
19:37 < vuori> maswan, I'll leave it up
19:37 < maswan> vuori: great
19:37 < jono__> ScytheBlade1: can you post it, I'm not good with IRC
19:37  * Yog-home burps rudely. 
19:37 < vuori> Though if the RTP streams going to people never die, that's a bit of a problem
19:37 < maswan> vuori: ack
19:37 < ScytheBlade1> jono__, uh, sure
19:38 < maswan> vuori: do you want to try and restart it?
19:38 <@Yog-home> RTP ?  voip stuff ?
19:38 < vuori> Looks like this is still happily sending away to lcdd
19:38 < vuori> Hunk o' junk
19:38 < maswan> vuori: well, you could try restarting it on your side and we'll see if my vlc will pick it up when it is restarted?
19:38 < jd33021> heh
19:39 < jd33021> i'm still struggling to get transcoding working in the first place..
19:39 < MatthewA1> bah! oregonstate.edu mirror is still down. trying to get it to transcode with DSS..took the whole thing down
19:39 < ScytheBlade1> jono__, done
19:39 < jd33021> vuori: vlc should automatically find the libdmo/win32 codecs stuff, right?
19:39 < vuori> jd33021, it looks in /usr/lib/win32 and /usr/local/lib/win32
19:40 < jd33021> i have the win32 codec pac in /usr/lib/win32
19:40 <@Yog-home> heh..those fire pictures were cool
19:40 < vuori> jd33021, should find it there
19:40 < jd33021> libdmo is in /usr/lib/vlc/codecs, with all the other codecs
19:40 < jd33021> i still get: [00000279] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot find decoder
19:40 < vuori> I think lcdd has managed to confuse vlc somehow
19:41  * speakit << sleeping.. and off
19:41 <@Yog-home> interdictor seems to take a lot of redundant pictures though :)
19:41 < vuori> jd33021, where did you put libdmo_plugin?
19:41 < vuori> maswah, restarted and running again
19:41 < vuori> Well, running soon
19:41 < jd33021> i've tried both /usr/lib/win32 and /usr/lib/vlc/codecs (which is the debian distro's vlc codec dir)
19:42 < maswan> vuori: tell me when it's up
19:42 < maswan> jd33021: did you note the bit about you have to match vlc vernsions and plugin versions exactly?
19:42 < vuori> jd33021, try just /usr/lib/vlc
19:42 < maswan> jd33021: I think that is what bit me. :/
19:42 < jd33021> ah shoot
19:42 < jd33021> plugin is 0.8.2, vlc is 0.8.1
19:42 < vuori> Yes, the version is important too (-:
19:43 < maswan> jd33021: same problem as me then
19:43 < theagent> lol
19:43 <@Yog-home> so..has anyone actually gotten a mirror up yet ? :)
19:43 < theagent> sorry, this shouldn't be this hard
19:43 < maswan> Yog-home: of what?
19:43 <@Yog-home> vid feed
19:44 <@Yog-home> i thought that's what everyone was working on
19:44 < ScytheBlade1> Hmm, this seems to be a pretty common thing here - if anyone could get me started, I'd gladly write up stuff in the wiki about howto setup the transcoding mirror
19:44 < jd33021> yes, in a round-about sort of way
19:44 < maswan> Yog-home: we have a couple of stream mirrors. my is currenly disfunctional while vuori rehacks some of the backend. :)
19:44 < vuori> maswan, it's back up
19:44 < vuori> ScytheBlade1, if we knew the best setup (-:
19:44 < maswan> lets see if a client can pick up on it without.. nope
19:44 < ScytheBlade1> vuori, well, what do you have so far? ;)
19:44 < theagent> we have straight WMV streams already mirrored.  These guys are working on mpeg4 rtsp streams
19:44 < vuori> (or even a sort-of working setup, I think ASF is the best bet now?)
19:44 < maswan> needed a vlc restart on farbror
19:45 <+lexi__> ScytheBlade1, your server is down again
19:45 < ScytheBlade1> ASF, imo, would be the best bet... I'm watching them on linux and windows
19:45 < maswan> yes
19:45 < ScytheBlade1> lexi__, my server? ;)
19:45 < maswan> ASF mpeg4 stream via http available at http://farbror.acc.umu.se:8080/NO
19:45 < ScytheBlade1> lexi__, hit tab once too many times? ;)
19:46 < maswan> vuori: lets just leave it like that and hope it just works? :)
19:46 < theagent> farbror fails for me with WMP on OSX
19:46 <@jebba> here's a mirror, which can be published, but only some people report sucess with it (notably with linux/mplayer):  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081/
19:47 < jd33021> jebba: can you post the command line again, since you've made some mime-type progress?
19:47 < vuori> I think someone has a working mirror incantation to rebroadcast the original WMV9 video with ASF, and jebba and jd are working on the incantation to transcode to MPEG4 and broadcast as ASF
19:47 < maswan> theagent: with any resonable error message? and please try a couple of time.
19:47 <@jebba> jd33021,             vlc $URL  --sout '#std{access=http{mime=video/x-ms-asf},mux=asfh,url=blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081}'
19:47 < jd33021> i'm going to give up on transcoding and go home :)
19:47 < theagent> transcoding just sucks and always has....
19:47 < maswan> theagent: since the stream doesn't always start with a keyframe when you start playing, I notied my player occasionally just freezing
19:48 <+lexi__> ScytheBlade1: .. sorry :-)
19:48 < vuori> ScytheBlade1, vlc -vvv source.here --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,acodec=mpga,vb=270,ab=80}:rtp{port=8910,sdp=rtsp://your.ip.here:8900/}' appears to work somewhat to transcode and broadcast RTSP/RTP, but it has a number of issues (-:
19:48 < MatthewA1> mms://no-stream.fwl.oregonstate.edu/no is back up. i'll work on transcoding later
19:48 < ScytheBlade1> lexi__, np ;)
19:48 < maswan> hmm.. vlc does not seem to lke my steam either
19:48 < ScytheBlade1> vuori, is the source IP rather private now? ;)
19:48 < spstarr> ok, so where's the wiki so i can put some instructions for Linux people
19:49 < vuori> Yes, at least vlc seems to tend to losing big time when the stream gets hairy (lots of packet loss, keyframe doesn't come up soon enough)
19:49 < vuori> ScytheBlade1, http://64.124.159.242/no is the source I'm encoding from
19:49 < ScytheBlade1> k
19:49 < maswan> vuori: mplayer seems to be a bit more robust
19:49 < ScytheBlade1> I'll poke around a bit ;)
19:49  * spstarr pokes math
19:50 < maswan> don't really know what I can do besides this to help stuff. my attempts att mmsh failed to give me something _I_ could play
19:50 < ScytheBlade1> vuori, heh, looks like my vlc doesn't have rstp yet.....give me a bit
19:50 < ScytheBlade1> (I don't have any bandwidth to donate, but I'd like to help how I can)
19:51 < jd33021> jebba: setting access=http really breaks WMP on OS X for me, for some reason..
19:51 < jd33021> i set it back to mmsh, but then of course, the mime-tyep is wrong again
19:51 <@jebba> jd33021, ya.  The other way I had it worked for some on osx/win but not on linux
19:51 < jd33021> right
19:52 < maswan> jd33021: so, we have one stream each? :)
19:52 <@jebba> jd33021, IIRC, this worked for most win/mac
19:52 < maswan> I have the http one. :)
19:52 <@jebba> vlc  $URL --sout '#std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081'
19:52 < jd33021> oh well, win some lose some
19:52 < maswan> jebba: are you going to publish your?
19:52 <@jebba> uh, i think that needs a final }  in it
19:52 < spstarr> nice, Darwin streaming server is extremely easy to configure on Linux
19:52 < spstarr> who needs help
19:52 <+lexi__> so ok.. if someone want's to use it, here's a very low-quality, unstable MPEG4 source (open to public): mmsh://217.172.170.147:8080/
19:52 < spstarr> we need more video streams
19:52 < ScytheBlade1> that blag40k seems to just hang on "connecting" forever on WMP
19:52 < maswan> jebba: feel free to publish mine too, I need to run off right now
19:52 < ysothoth> dss is no longer recommended?
19:52 <@jebba> maswan, it can be published.
19:52 <@jebba> but i'm not sure /where/ to publish
19:53 < jd33021> maybe just create a simple txt file with a list of our streams
19:53 < jd33021> and put it in the topic, and someone can pick it up later?
19:53 < ScytheBlade1> hmm
19:53 <@jebba> spstarr, well, if you can take one of the existing streams and convert it to an mpeg http stream, I think people would be quite happy.
19:53 < theagent> we can't get a usable source feed for DSS relection
19:53 < ysothoth> spstarr: I built dss from freebsd ports :)
19:53 < theagent> reflection*
19:53 < ysothoth> Isee
19:53 < spstarr> hmm, the box is a Pentium III
19:53 < Roamer1> I have pic mirrors up, how do I get them posted on exorsus?
19:53 < spstarr> but i dont have much bandwidth
19:53 < spstarr> 45KB/s
19:54 < Roamer1> they're on an oc3
19:54 < maswan> spstarr: if you could even get a working command line for that...
19:54 < jd33021> anyways folks - i have to go - my stream (useful to WMP clients only apparently) is at http://foo.webmeta.com:8080
19:54 < spstarr> you can convert with vlc (one way)
19:54 < jd33021> good luck all
19:55 < apeman> I also have a pic mirror up, whats the procedure?  (its on 3  oc3's)
19:55 <+lexi__> does someone want to try to setup a DSS feeded by mmsh://217.172.170.147:8080/?
19:55 < theagent> jd33021, thanks for the effort
19:55 < eMoose> dynamic or static pic mirrors?
19:56 < Roamer1> I sent in the form for getting my mirrors posted, but it's been like 4 hours and they're still not up
19:56 < Roamer1> static
19:56 < eMoose> come to #katrina.moose.to and set up a dynamic mirror :-)
19:56 < apeman> static, but rsync'ng every 30 mins
19:56 < eMoose> http://katrina.moose.to
19:56 < Roamer1> I can't do the install moose, don't have the permissions
19:56 < Roamer1> I've just been manually rsyncing
19:56 < eMoose> I have all the thumbnails off tampabusiness cached now, I'm working on the photos.
19:57 < eMoose> Roamer: ack! that sucks.
19:57 < Roamer1> I can get the perms, but my buddy who's the admin is in amsterdamn, haven't been able to get ahold of him
19:57 < Torg_> I can confirm that the foo.webmeta.com:8080 stream works on WMP under OSX tiger.
19:57  * riel finds the new MMS URL for WWLTV
19:57 < riel> mms://re2wmcontent02.bcst.re2.yahoo.com/bcenc203021?StreamID=17883089
19:58 < riel> works with mplayer
19:58 < ysothoth> lexi__: I just installed dss a few hours ago... maybe I can try
19:58 < theagent> a yahoo video mirror?
19:58 < Roamer1> emoose, where did the howto go?
19:58 < riel> theagent: yeah, it looks like that's how WWL is getting out their video
19:58 <@Eimann> lexi__: i'll try
19:58  * spstarr smiles at riel 
19:58 < eMoose> it's there.
19:59 < Roamer1> I'm getting a not found
19:59 < Roamer1> on the howto
19:59 < theagent> oh.. I thought that was our webcam feed not WWL
19:59 < theagent> dummy me
19:59 < Roamer1> ahh.. the link on katrina.moose.to is messed up
19:59 < vuori> I've done battle with DSS but it was years ago
19:59 < eMoose> oops, fixed.
19:59 < vuori> And too tired to deal with it now
19:59 < eMoose> i should never be allowed to edit HTML.
20:00 < Roamer1> lol
20:01 < eMoose> oooh, my brother is uploading 500M of images to me that aren't on most of the web sites.
20:01 <@Yog-home> SG-1 is on :)
20:01 <@Yog-home> bah..rerun ?
20:01 < theagent> SG1 rox
20:01 < vuori> I think that with codecpaks and the official WMPs most people can manage to watch the original WMV9 streams, so forgetting the transcode hassle and just getting working rebroadcasts of the original stream going would the best bet
20:01 < vuori> (with MMS/MMSH/HTTP or whatever works)
20:03 < maswan> vuori: yeah. the reason we tried finding other things, was that of the mms/http failures for either mplayer on linux or wmp on osx
20:03 < lcdd> preferably something that works over NAT and firewalls
20:03 < Torg_> Yes, SG1 does rock.  Yes it is a re-run. (Marathon of fan favorite epis)
20:03 < vuori> ah, the joy of lossage
20:04 <@Yog-home> yep
20:05 < vuori> ok, DSS might work better through firewalls than straight VLC. That would bring us to the joy of codecs, Apple's MPEG4 codec may not be particularly happy about whatever ffmpeg puts out
20:05 <@Yog-home> why does sci-fi make all these cheesy movies like 'Frankenfish' ?
20:05  * Yog-home shakes his head. 
20:06 <@Yog-home> oh.. SG1 and SG-Atlantis and BSG had their season finales didn't they ?
20:06 < theagent> vuori, I've not had a problem with ffmpeg output of mpeg4 with DSS
20:06 < theagent> Yog-home, no
20:06 < theagent> nouv, they just started up
20:06 < vuori> It works with quicktime player?
20:07 <@Yog-home> hrm.. why no SG-A or BSG tonight ...
20:07 < theagent> Labor Day weekend
20:07 < vuori> Well, that's a nice surprise (-:
20:07 <@Yog-home> oh crap.. I totally forgot
20:07 < Roamer1> moose, can I make the mirror dynamic if I can't modify apache? it's already running on the server as it hosts several sites
20:07 < tecHdARKO> hello - OEM Radio Officer and RF Tech from New Jersey
20:07 <@Yog-home> wtf.. Tivo has 'no upcoming episodes' for BSG
20:08 <@Yog-home> oh never mind
20:08 <@Yog-home> it does show 'em
20:08 < vuori> Well, Windows Media Server is included with the Windows 2003 Server editions, that'd probaly work. Has a nice gui too (-:
20:08 <@Yog-home> i just have two season passes
20:08 <@Yog-home> wierdness
20:09 < theagent> add Firefly to your season passes?
20:09 <@Yog-home> oh.. i think that one was the BSG mini-series
20:09 <@Yog-home> firefly..hrm
20:09 <@Yog-home> I havn't watched that
20:09 <@Yog-home> I think I caught one episode
20:09 < theagent> really? it good... really good
20:09 <@Yog-home> hrm..it seemed OK I guess
20:10 < maswan> vuori: well, first you'd need to find someone with a bizzare enough mind to put a windows machine on the public internet.. ;)
20:10 <@Yog-home> not as good as BSG or SG1/SGA
20:10 <@Yog-home> yeh.. BSG isn't until monday..
20:10  * Yog-home sighs 
20:10 <@Yog-home> I was looking forward to the next episode tonight
20:10 <@Yog-home> bastards :)
20:10 < hfx_ben> Anyone here can tell me about nola-intel pictures? I have 2, both the same ... but 1 of the mirrors shows different
20:10 <+fr4nk> zipping picture set 3
20:11 <@Yog-home> oh..it's a rerun too
20:11 <+fr4nk> i liked it alot
20:11 <@Yog-home> gah.
20:11 < hfx_ben> http://nola.blagblagblag.org/east-boston.utopus.net/katrina2/ is a mirror ... but I have no link to the original
20:11 <+fr4nk> i loved the space western concept
20:11 <+fr4nk> hfx_ben there are 3 sets
20:11 <+fr4nk> 1 2 and 3
20:12 <@Yog-home> stupid SG1 marathon prempted new episodes
20:12 <+lexi__> ysothoth, yeah, try it
20:12 <@Yog-home> <- The real Yog-Sothoth :)
20:13 < ratman2> http://65.111.30.91:8000 is up relaying stream2 and can take 1000 users
20:13 < hfx_ben> fr4nk please come to #interdictor-wiki with me
20:13 < ratman2> LSP Baton Rouge
20:14 -!- shogun_ is now known as shogun
20:14 < Roamer1> I have fast pic mirrors at http://www.realeyesdesign.com/katrina and http://www.realeyesdesign.com/katrina2 if someone can add them to the list
20:14 <@Yog-home> crap.how the hell did it become september already...
20:15 <@Yog-home> was sick last three weeks.. it's like I lost august :(
20:15 < vuori> Must go sleep now. I can probably try fighting the DSS monster tomorrow morning if there's still need
20:16 < maswan> ok, so where can I list my transcoded stream mirror?
20:18 <@jebba> maswan, you were able to transcode it?
20:18 < maswan> jebba: no, resending vuori's transcoded stream
20:18 <@jebba> via rtsp?
20:19 < maswan> I send it via http
20:19 < maswan> http://farbror.acc.umu.se:8080/NO
20:19 <@jebba> what's the URL again? (uh, and how did you do it?)
20:19 < maswan> I need to break it to get the command line, but basically it is a reflector of the rtsp stream using http and asfh
20:20 < maswan> unfortunately some media players dislike the fact that they get directly into the stream and not starting with a proper keyframe
20:20 <@jebba> ok. my stream appears down at the moment (just dropped)
20:20 <@jebba> yep, just noticed that (re: keyframe)
20:21 < maswan> sometimes restarting helps, some players are really twitcy though
20:22 < maswan> and now it seems to break? why?
20:23 <@jebba> maswan, no idea. Yours is broken? mine is too now :(
20:23 < maswan> restarting vlc, lets see
20:23 < johne> i dont have a 100mb+ connection but i have a 1mbs upload  i can run the audio stream if someone can help me setup
20:23 < maswan> seems like vuori's stream disappeared(?)
20:24 < DocJelly> fr4nk: Im seeding 01-13 now. are there any more/new torrents ?
20:25 < vuori> maswan, not because of my doing. I suspect the source stopped sending
20:25 < maswan> vuori: ack
20:25 <@jebba> vuori, ya, that's what I thought, but the I can connect to the stream I was using directly, but mirroring it is currently foo.  sheesh
20:26 < maswan> Oh, well. My conclusion is that for streaming stuff, vlc is a confusing and buggy mess. So are clients. :/
20:26 < maswan> (in different and "exciting" ways)
20:27 <@X15> So is DSS... Does aything just WORK anymore?
20:27 <+fr4nk> torrent of set 3 are up
20:27 < maswan> there it is again!
20:27 <+fr4nk> and on wiki
20:27 < DocJelly> fr4nk: link?
20:27 < DocJelly> ok
20:27 < maswan> heh. now I'm running in an ogg stream.
20:28 <+lexi__> if somebody has a windows box with an recent vlc on t, i can provide setting for WMV->MMSH/MPEG4 transcoding
20:28 < maswan> seems to be less fragile for startup issues than asf
20:28 < Roamer1> is there an rsync of set 3?
20:28 < maswan> but probably not very well-supported from the windows world
20:28 < eMoose> What's the URL for set3? I'll add them to http://katrina.moose.to/
20:28 < vuori> Since vlc doesn't even exit when it loses the source, it's not really easy to even automagically fix things
20:28 < maswan> vuori: yeah. and it doesn't retry either.
20:29 <+lexi__> vuori: i set it up to run in a loop, so it reconnects when loosing source
20:29 < maswan> lexi__: how?
20:29 <@jebba> ok. my mirror is back up
20:30 < ysothoth> while true; do vlc [...]; done
20:30 <@jebba> ledder_, how?
20:30 <+lexi__> maswan: --loop
20:30 < ysothoth> or use daemontools
20:30 <@jebba> ya, but when it loses source, it doesn't end.
20:30 < vuori> lexi__, my vlc doesn't exit when the source goes away
20:30 < Jellybob> Is there any news on scanner 4? It's been down for a while
20:30 < Roamer1> moose can I make my mirrors dynamic if I can't modify apache? It's already running
20:30 <+lexi__> vuori: nor does mine but it tries to reconnect to the source
20:30 < vuori> Mine doesn't seem to do even that (-:
20:31 <@jebba> lexi__, by using   `vlc --loop`   ?
20:31 <+lexi__> maswan, or in the GUI, use the playlist editor
20:31 <+lexi__> jebba, yeah
20:31 < vuori> ok, --loop might be nice
20:32 < DocJelly> Arse. Fr4nk, cant find set 3 torrents on wiki.
20:32 -!- ysothoth is now known as ekkikrist
20:33 < vuori> Restarted my transcoder with -L
20:33 < ScytheBlade1> Not to interrupt, but I've just made a little PHP script that'll list all current sources (that have been added) - http://dev.brantleyonline.com/slist/
20:33 < vuori> It might be interesting to dump the stream to a file for posterity
20:33 < ScytheBlade1> Likewise see http://dev.brantleyonline.com/slist/?admin, to add/remove URLs
20:33 < vuori> Anyway, really off to sleep now
20:33 < ScytheBlade1> Note that only ones listed as "public" will show
20:34 < maswan> ok, running with --loop
20:35 < icculus> I can't believe it's 2005 and setting up streaming video still sucks so badly.
20:36 < Torg_> Heh, thank real, microsoft, and apple for that.
20:36 < MrPants> word.
20:36 <@X15> The big boys have server appliances that work fine, bastards
20:36 < MrPants> it's pretty much impossible if you don't have a completely homogenous infrastructure
20:37 < MrPants> and it's also impossible to do it for free with a wmv9 source...
20:37 < maswan> MrPants: not impossible, just very hard
20:37 < Torg_> You think that's not on purpose? =P
20:37 < MrPants> oh, i know it's on purpose. ;)
20:38 < MrPants> i've worked with microsoft products for long enough to understand how they operate
20:38 < MrPants> don't get me started on the way they do authentication... *grumble*
20:38 < icculus> I'm not going to be beaten. I'm going to figure this out if I have to run vlc through a debugger all night
20:38 < maswan> well, I need sleep though
20:38 < Torg_> Unfortunatly, so have I.
20:38 < Daenil> So if anyone in here is at the building in New Orleans... why did you choose to stay behind?
20:39 < Torg_> I don't think anyone from the building is in this channel.
20:39 < Daenil> rgr
20:39 < Torg_> Donny has been posting in #interdictor though.
20:39 < Daenil> is Donny one of those there?
20:39 < icculus> yes
20:39 < Daenil> tks
20:39 < Torg_> Yes. And a VP of the company.
20:39 < MrPants> donny is pretty much the irc "liason" for the people there
20:40 < MrPants> daenil- read through the blog
20:40 < MrPants> there's plenty of stuff there on their reasons for staying.
20:40 < theagent> homogenous on distribution is a must in streaming.   The client support is what needs to be heterogeneous
20:40 < MrPants> indeed.
20:42 < Daenil> ok, so i read and trying to understand...
20:42 < Daenil> some sort of "mission"?
20:42 < NACAlex> hrm
20:42 < NACAlex> interesting blog post
20:42 < Torg_> This channel isn't for chatting, take that to #interdictor-chat
20:42 < Daenil> rgr
20:46 < Daenil> are you all using some *nix for hosting the stream?
20:50 < hfx_ben> Q:  jt_ was collecting URLs ... someone tell me where that got stashed?
20:50 < ScytheBlade1> heh
20:50 < MrPants> i've got one to add to that list, if it's still in the works.
20:50 <+fr4nk> hfx_ben its on the main page i belive
20:51 < hfx_ben> k fr4 tu
20:51 < spstarr> his ICQ doesnt work from gaim
20:52 < spstarr> or do you need AIM
20:52 < ScytheBlade1> hmm, fr4nk, which "main page" do you mean?
20:53 <+fr4nk> http://urls.nola-intel.com/ ?
20:53 < theagent> homogenous on distribution is a must in streaming.   The client support is what needs to be heterogeneous
20:53 < theagent> oops
20:54 < Freebase> anyone in here that's in NOLA?
20:55 < spstarr> How to send IM to interdictor?
20:55 < MrPants> please take any non-tech related conversations to #interdictor-chat
20:56 <@Yog-home> god..i hope this new storm doesn't wind up hitting the gulf coast
20:57 <@jebba> my mirror magically working again:  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081
20:57 <+fr4nk> class factory doenst like it
20:58 < ratman2> what new storm?
20:58 < MrPants> all of the galleries: http://www.tacular.com/katrina/
20:58 <@jebba> <MrPants> please take any non-tech related conversations to #interdictor-chat
20:58 < icculus> spstarr: Not that I speak for interdictor, but please don't IM him unless it's important, he's getting thousands of IMs
21:00  * Yog-home pantses MrPants
21:02 <+fr4nk> ok i am out for the night, if there are any problems with the tracker or bittorrent please pm me
21:02 <+fr4nk> i'll respond when i get back
21:02 < Freebase> ya'll still looking for a home?
21:02 < Freebase> outside of NOLA, I mean?
21:04 < zacker> hello
21:08 <@Yog-home> one of the directnic guys can sleep in my 2nd bedroom w/ my servers if they pay half muh rent
21:08 <@Yog-home> of course, half my rent is probably more than they pay for their whole rent in NOLA
21:09 <@Yog-home> ;)
21:09 < davidc_> Yog-home: thats called sub-letting, not donating :P
21:09 <@Yog-home> donate schmonate
21:09 < hfx_ben> cya fr4nk
21:09 <@Yog-home> actually, my 2nd bedroom has my servers in it
21:10 <@Yog-home> so when did this chan...with no one talking in it...become a 'no chat' channel ?
21:10 <@Yog-home> when I first joined yesterday, there was like 20 techy guys in here just BSing about various tech stuff
21:11 < coral> after 150 people irc channels usually change tone for the more on-topic
21:11 < coral> is the OC3 up underwaater?
21:11 <@Yog-home> ok..what's the topic ?
21:11  * Yog-home shakes his head. 
21:12 <@Yog-home> it's wierd that the OC3s stayed up until well after the hurricane
21:12 < MrPants> not really
21:13 <@Yog-home> oh no.. we have a athoratai guy in here
21:13 <@Yog-home> prob some 13 YO :)
21:13 <@Yog-home> but he has OpZ
21:13 < MrPants> if they were from telco providers- there's a good chance that they're running on generators too
21:13  * Yog-home chuckles 
21:13 < icculus> athoratai?
21:13 <@jebba> it's nice to be able to scan this channel for -tech info and not have a bunch of other stuff here. please.
21:13 <@Yog-home> as in 'respect muh authoratai!'
21:13 < icculus> oh
21:13 < coral> noted, apologies.
21:14 <@Yog-home> MrPants: i think all direcnics stuff goes through that bellsouth building
21:14 < MrPants> some of it, at least. they were still up when bellsouth was down
21:14 <@Yog-home> jebba: so what qualifies for 'tech info' ?
21:15 <@Yog-home> I think the only path they have is through telecove still
21:15 < dantekgeek> anyone have a stable link to the cam?
21:16 <@jebba> dantekgeek, I have a mirror that works with mplayer/linux  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081
21:17 < dantekgeek> doesn
21:17 < dantekgeek> 't seem to want to work
21:17 < topside> hmmm maybe settnig up a mirror so close to new orleans isnt tehe best idea..
21:17 <@Yog-home> i've been wondering what's different about the telecove peer such that it stayed connected where their other peers dropped
21:17 <@jebba> dantekgeek, you on mplayer/linux?
21:17 <@Yog-home> mabye a diff physical path
21:17 < dantekgeek> I'm on vlc and wmp on OS X
21:17 <@X15> More diesel
21:17 <@jebba> dantekgeek, I have a mirror that works with mplayer/linux  http://blag40k.blagblagblag.org:8081
21:17 <@Yog-home> yeh perhaps the others ran out of power
21:18 <@jebba> not sure about OSX
21:18 <@X15> That's my bet
21:18 <@Yog-home> but that presumes the other peers are in the affected area
21:18 < topside> I'm here in Lafayette, LA....we have 1 OC12 up and kicking...not sure if setting up a mirror is best idea tho...
21:18 <@jebba> most players freak cuz they don't get keyframes to start with. If it doesn't bail immediately, let it run and it will eventually get a keyframe
21:19 <@Yog-home> hrm.. I guess tech support for video players is 'permitted'
21:19  * Yog-home grins
21:19 < dantekgeek> i'mma try mplayer
21:20 < Cris`> just set up a picture mirror
21:20 < topside> I can set up a picture mirror for sure
21:21 <@jebba> topside, you can grab a bunch via rsync here:  rsync://nola.blagblagblag.org/nola/
21:21 < topside> alright - lemme set up a virtualhost on apache for it and ill rsynch it down
21:21 < topside> *rsync
21:21 < eMoose> photo mirror: http://katrina.moose.to - it updates when the source updates automatically.
21:22 <@jebba> eMoose, squid?
21:22 < hfx_ben> *rpt* NB: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=InfoDump is wiki ... paste as you see fit. Also see #interdictor-wiki (logged).
21:22 < topside> eMoose, what are you using to fetch updates? periodic rsync?
21:22 < eMoose> jebba: of course.
21:22 < dantekgeek> the feed isnt working in mplayer either
21:22 < Cris`> http://www.cadencetools.org/katrina2/index.html
21:22 < eMoose> topside: squid as a reverse proxy. there's a howto on the site.
21:22 < Cris`> http://www.cadencetools.org/katrina/index.html
21:22 < topside> kk thanks
21:22 < topside> ill get my mirror set up shortly
21:22 < Cris`> feel free to knock yourself out on that mirror.
21:22 < topside> im at work here in the NOC for the next 12 hours
21:23 < Cris`> I filled out the form as well
21:23 < eMoose> topside: if you're familiar with squid, this should be a no brainer for ya.
21:23 < eMoose> and if you want, mail me with an IP and I'll add you to the RR for katrina.moose.to
21:24 < topside> kk 1 sec - just lemme set up the apache chit
21:24 < topside> then i can populate it with data
21:24 < eMoose> the nice think about squid is you don't have to populate it, it populates itself. :)
21:33 < bigdummee> notice tech_faq is incorrect for silencing clients, says \/on ^SIGNUP should be \/on ^SIGNOFF
21:35 < topside> alright...where should i point squid? whats the master mirror
21:36 < eMoose> topside: come to #katrina.moose.to
21:43 < dantekgeek> someone link me to a working cam feed?
21:45 <@X15> http://www.nola-intel.org/nola.asx
22:13  * hfx_ben thinks we should backup the wiki
22:14 < hfx_ben> X15 is that link on Wiki MainPage?
22:14 < MrPants> what's the backend on the wiki? mysql?
22:14 < hfx_ben> bigdummee ... is that info on IRC page of wiki
22:14 < hfx_ben> Pants MySQL ...
22:14 < hfx_ben> ... unless we migrated today!
22:14 < MrPants> no way.
22:15 < hfx_ben> It's MediaWiki ... pretty sure it's MySQL
22:15 < MrPants> ideally, we could just set up replication
22:15 < hfx_ben> ideally
22:15 < MrPants> and have other servers that mirror the data off the db
22:15 < hfx_ben> had to rebuild it just hours ago ... kinna busy ;-P
22:15 < MrPants> i bet.
22:16 < MrPants> i've done a lot of stuff with mysql replication
22:16 < MrPants> if you can enable binary logging on the server, the rest is pretty simple
22:16 < Mork> how much bandwidth is nola taking now?
22:16 < Mork> (wiki site etc)
22:19 <@X15> No idea, i don't think any of the NAC guys are awake, and the Wiki is in a totaly differnt colo
22:21 < NACAlex> i am here
22:21 < Technix> hi.. I have bandwidth and am wlling to setup mirroring
22:22 < NACAlex> mirroring for what
22:22 < Technix> webcams, feeds, etc
22:22 < Technix> torrents even
22:22 < NACAlex> well
22:22 < NACAlex> here is what I now
22:22 < NACAlex> know
22:23 < NACAlex> a) the pics are mirrored alot, and the mirrors are listed on the wiki
22:23 < Technix> I'm investigating the wiki as we speak
22:23 < NACAlex> b) the wiki, http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
22:23 < NACAlex> is fed well and is happy
22:23 < NACAlex> it's on a beefy optereron or something, raid'ed up
22:23 < NACAlex> c) the scanner feeds are doing OK
22:24 < NACAlex> d) as for the video, no idea whats going on there.
22:24 < NACAlex> as for overall bandwidth
22:24 < NACAlex> it's not really much, very little, actually.
22:24 < Mork> i think they are just feeding the video to a few mirrors who are acting as wide distribution points
22:24 < Technix> I see.. ok.
22:24 < Mork> but i dont think they have lights and its night, so there isnt much to see at the moment
22:24 < NACAlex> yeah, we may be one of those, but sure.
22:24 < Technix> I've already made my own (small) community aware of things, via our news site
22:25 < Technix> http://haikunews.org
22:25 < Mork> heres a cam feed: http://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf
22:25 < Mork> looks like they have it indoors now
22:25 < Technix> but I would like to also mirror the images, and anything else, via torrents... I'll work on it meantime
22:25 < Technix> brb
22:25 < NACAlex> ok, i am going to bed.
22:25 < NACAlex> realise
22:25 < NACAlex> if you mirror a photo site, and it gets out there
22:26 < NACAlex> expect it to fill 100 megs without even thinking about it
22:26 < Technix> np.
22:26 < Technix> also.. I have this tool which I just realized might be handy for anyone using just a browser...
22:26 < Mork> i think the full set is well over 200mb
22:26 < Technix> http://haikunews.org/wget.php
22:26 < NACAlex> no
22:26 < Mork> so bandwidth usage will rocket
22:26 < Technix> gui frontend to wget
22:26 < NACAlex> i mean
22:26 < NACAlex> 100 mbits/sec
22:26 < Mork> yea
22:26 < ScytheBlade1> for the photos, there's an rsync archive
22:26 < NACAlex> i think it has calmed down a bit in the last couple hours
22:26 < abuser> thats fine
22:26 < Mork> well i believe technix is in the netherlands, so a european mirror would probably be beneficial
22:27 < NACAlex> but it was insane this afternoon.
22:27 < NACAlex> i know we have one or two euro's already, but more is better.
22:27 < NACAlex> just make sure it's stuck on the wiki
22:27 < Technix> yes, Mork.. but my server is in California
22:27 < Mork> hehe
22:27 < Mork> ;p
22:27 < abuser> tech: where at?
22:27 < Technix> he.net
22:27 < NACAlex> well
22:27 < Technix> Hurricane Electric (how ironic is that)
22:27 < NACAlex> you're transfer to he should be fast
22:27 < MrPants> heh
22:27 < NACAlex> we peer with them
22:27 < abuser> we've got two going up in the FMT center now
22:28 < Mork> i know ev1 is doing mirroring too
22:28 < NACAlex> yeah, i know mike leber pretty well.
22:28 < Mork> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net
22:28 < Mork> i should add that to the wiki
22:28 < NACAlex> cute graph
22:29 < abuser> a little spiky
22:29 < NACAlex> crashing or something
22:29 < NACAlex> the picture server (www.nola-intel.org) is at about 35 to 40 mb/s right now, pretty calm.
22:30 < abuser> 40 mb/s is nothing
22:30 < NACAlex> the wiki is trivial, like 3 megs or something.
22:31 <@doofoo> thanks alex. ;)
22:31 < NACAlex> hey budd
22:31 < NACAlex> hope you didn't mind my mods to www.
22:31 < NACAlex> whilst you slept
22:31 <@doofoo> we got pretty much everything related to nola-intel
22:31 <@doofoo> not at all..
22:31 <@doofoo> you worked w/ geniusj right?
22:32 <@doofoo> elsif1
22:32 < NACAlex> eimann
22:32 < NACAlex> elsif
22:32 < NACAlex> yeah
22:32 <@doofoo> yeah elsif = geniusj
22:32 < NACAlex> ah
22:32 < NACAlex> is he elsif on efnet?
22:32 <@doofoo> no.. no more irc for us
22:32 <@doofoo> irc = ddos
22:32 <@doofoo> ddos = bad
22:32 < NACAlex> no kidding :)
22:32 <@doofoo> lol
22:32 < Mork> efnet is being ddosd?
22:32 < NACAlex> we've seen 1mm pps ddos on irc's in the last year
22:32 <@doofoo> efnet is always being dos'd
22:32 < abuser> when isnt it being ddosed?
22:32 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o NACAlex] by X15
22:33 <@doofoo> at least 1 server is always under attack
22:33 < Mork> yea but efnet is huge, dont think its possible to completely shut it down
22:33 <@NACAlex> no, it's not.
22:33 < Mork> theres at least 60 links
22:33 <@djbsquared> hey guys
22:33 <@doofoo> lol
22:33 <@doofoo> alex are you on efnet?
22:33 <@NACAlex> yes
22:33 <@doofoo> whatserver?
22:34 <@NACAlex> usually in #nanog
22:34 < {dm}> Ahh, efnet!
22:34 <@NACAlex> irc.nac.net 6667 of course!
22:34 < Tetraboy> Hi alex.
22:34 <@doofoo> ;)
22:34 < {dm}> Home for many many many years...
22:34 <@doofoo> ahh ok
22:34 <@doofoo> i love reading your comments on nanog
22:34 < tclai> transcribers?
22:34 <@djbsquared> NACAlex: curious, did we ever get more video?
22:34 < tclai> the traffic is getting fast and furious on 3
22:35 <@NACAlex> i dunno whatever happened with the video
22:35 <@doofoo> alex check msgs.
22:35 <@NACAlex> i heard mumblings abotu codecs and incompatibilities, etc.
22:35 < uidzero> http://katrina.moose.to/
22:36 <@NACAlex> tetra, hello.
22:36 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+oo eMoose Nac-SirParadox] by X15
22:36 < abuser> moose.to has a load balanced mirror setup mirroring the main pages
22:36 <@X15> We tryed to use DSS at first, not knowing that it's not compatible with MMS...
22:37 <@X15> Eventually some company (avantec[sp?]) setup a huge mirror, that's primary right now
22:37 <@doofoo> alex - sent you a request privmsg. Getting ready to go back to sleep though.. only got 3 1/ 2hours. i am beat
22:37 <@djbsquared> hey X15
22:37 <@X15> Yo
22:37 <@djbsquared> so what happened tonight? trying to catch back up
22:38 <@NACAlex> can you see
22:38 <@NACAlex> http://www.nac.net/mrtg2/statsrequest.asp?PortID=26070&gid=DED8463963569AAAED433F5B87185CC8#
22:38 <@X15> Alot, most of it spent trying to get *nix based video mirros working, didn't do to well
22:38 <@X15> yup Alex
22:38 <@NACAlex> the video is of somewhat limited usefullness, methinks.
22:38 <@djbsquared> i see
22:39 <@NACAlex> not a very good graph
22:39 <@NACAlex> let me see if I can find a better one
22:39 <@X15> Though we did manage to get up a distributed image mirroring system
22:39 < MrPants> now that it's dark
22:39 < t3t> alex, what's up with all the inbound?
22:39 <@djbsquared> would probably be easier with QT streaming server
22:39 <@doofoo> nac: I agree.. about the video
22:39 <@djbsquared> i know they codec plays nicer
22:39 <@X15> I don't think QT can do MMS eighter
22:39 <@NACAlex> i mean
22:39 <@NACAlex> watching a truck drive down the screen in 4 pixels is not exciting :)
22:39 <@doofoo> video is a novelty
22:39 < MrPants> the only server that can do pretty much everything is real's Helix server
22:39 < MrPants> but it's quite expensive
22:39 <@X15> Only things we could find were Video Lan Client and Windows Media Server
22:39 < MatthewAT> I have WMS mirroring now, was trying to transcode to MP4, but hasn't been going well
22:40 <@doofoo> the wiki is nice, and the pictures are very powerful
22:40 <@NACAlex> we have helix somewhere
22:40 <@doofoo> vid is just blowing through bandwidth
22:40 <@doofoo> which is why i stayed away from it
22:40 <@X15> The video only gets good when a convoy rolls by :)
22:40 < MrPants> especially at 300 kbit
22:40 < MrPants> for essentially nothing right now...
22:40 <@doofoo> even with a convoy rolling by
22:40 <@doofoo> turn cnn on if you want to watch video
22:40 < trizzo> whats the issue with the video stream?
22:40 <@X15> It keeps people interested, interested people donate
22:40 < trizzo> we need a decent resolution stream because the camera is up so high
22:41 <@NACAlex> trizzo
22:41 <@NACAlex> answer me this, brother
22:41 <@NACAlex> to watch what, exactly?
22:41 <@doofoo> If people need to be interested to donate, then they have some problems.
22:41 < IRCMonkey> can the fps be adjusted, then a lower bitrate?
22:41 <@doofoo> Or just kill the video feeds
22:41 < trizzo> nacalex: hell if i know, ive been installing a digital thermostat this evening!
22:41 <@doofoo> waste of bandwidth imho
22:41 <@doofoo> lot of content in the audio scanner streams
22:41 <@NACAlex> i think the scanner streams are way more powerful than the video.
22:42 <@X15> You guys gotta rember, when they set it up it was for a few people and they had tons of BW
22:42 <@doofoo> the wiki, and pictures
22:42 <@NACAlex> jinx.
22:42 <@djbsquared> doofoo: if people cant get it, then so be it... it started out they put it up because they had it
22:42 <@X15> Now they don't want to mess with it but they only have one OC3...
22:42 <@doofoo> i have almost 1000 users on one stream I have up
22:42 <@NACAlex> on which server?
22:42 <@doofoo> my persona box.. ;)
22:42 <@doofoo> lol
22:42 <@doofoo> ods.org
22:42 <@doofoo> nola-intel.org
22:42 < MrPants> ...watching some guy looking at a laptop
22:42 <@doofoo> it's in your dc too
22:42 <@NACAlex> bad ass.
22:42 <@NACAlex> well
22:42 <@NACAlex> when your bandwidth bill comes in for that, let me know :)
22:42 <@doofoo> ahha will do
22:42 < abuser> haha
22:43 <@doofoo> $50,000
22:43 <@NACAlex> i will gladly give you a 2% discount
22:43 <@doofoo> i've had to use over 1000gb so far
22:43 <@NACAlex> BAHAHA
22:43 <@doofoo> lol
22:43 <@doofoo> I'll see you in court.. If you decide to sue me
22:43 <@doofoo> lol
22:43 <@NACAlex> don't worry, we'll take care of it
22:43 <@doofoo> :)
22:43 <@doofoo> thanks again.. You guys have been great.
22:43 <@X15> doofoo, were / are you a customer? LOL
22:44 <@doofoo> I mean, it wasn't just giving us boxes.. You got involved, down in the nity grity
22:44 <@doofoo> yeah, I am a customer
22:44 <@doofoo> have been for a while.
22:44 <@doofoo> Over a year
22:44 <@NACAlex> since 5/30/2004, heh
22:44 <@doofoo> primary nameserver for ods.org and update daemon is there
22:44 <@X15> Cool, when the HL2 mod i admin goes live i'll defintly look you guys up
22:44 < hfx_ben> doofoo is the shiet
22:44 <@NACAlex> how many clients attached to the update.ods box?
22:45 <@doofoo> alex - on what? the stream?
22:45 < Tetraboy> X15, what HL2 mod?
22:45 <@NACAlex> yeah
22:45 <@doofoo> 3 streams
22:45 <@doofoo> 1000 max each
22:45 <@doofoo> current -
22:45 <@doofoo> 50000MB/s Sources:6 Clients:844 Admins:1
22:45 <@doofoo> [02/Sep/2005:22:44:56] [2:Calendar Thread] [02/Sep/2005:22:44:56] Bandwidth:0.016667MB/s Sources:1 Clients:113 Admins:1
22:45 <@doofoo> [02/Sep/2005:22:44:56] [2:Calendar Thread] [02/Sep/2005:22:44:56] Bandwidth:0.116667MB/s Sources:1 Clients:56 Admins:1
22:45 <@doofoo> [02/Sep/2005:22:44:58] [2:Calendar Thread] [02/Sep/2005:22:44:58] Bandwidth:0.133333MB/s Sources:6 Clients:843 Admins:1
22:45 <@NACAlex> wow
22:45 <@doofoo> about 1000 total between them
22:45 <@NACAlex> for 9844 clients
22:45 <@NACAlex> 844, i mean
22:45 <@NACAlex> only moving 3 mbit/s
22:45 <@doofoo> yup
22:46 <@X15> Badge of Blood, we got featured on Steam along with 4 other mods and used up 700GB of BW with just images and text :(
22:46 <@doofoo> is that all my box is doing right now?
22:46 <@NACAlex> 3 kb/s per user
22:46 <@doofoo> damn.. surprising
22:46 < Mork> most of the audio streams are 20kbit tops
22:46 < Mork> per client
22:46 <@X15> Erm, 70*
22:46 <@X15> not 700
22:46 <@doofoo> because I have all my normal other stuff on there too
22:46 < Tetraboy> Wow, nice.
22:46 <@NACAlex> does it do a form of VAD?
22:46 <@NACAlex> meaning, if it is silent, no bits go by?
22:46 <@X15> When we actually release files i'm gonna jump off a cliff...
22:46 <@doofoo> yea
22:46 <@NACAlex> oh
22:46 <@NACAlex> ok, that makes sense then
22:46 <@doofoo> it does. from my understanding of scast
22:47 <@NACAlex> which URL is the audio on that server
22:47 < Tetraboy> Yeah, that's what file hosting sites are for. ;)
22:47 <@doofoo> http://nola-intel.org:8001/scan
22:48 <@doofoo> http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema
22:48 <@doofoo> http://nola-intel.org:8005/astro
22:48 <@NACAlex> i don't know why, but I can't connect to those
22:48 <@X15> I don't know how those sites can host them, i really don't....
22:48 <@doofoo> what are you resolving the ip to?
22:48 <@X15> So much BW gets used up in so little time...
22:48 <@NACAlex> 64.247.11.252
22:48 <@doofoo> what is really eating up bw is pictures
22:48 <@X15> But then, they get reasonable rates on it :(
22:48 <@doofoo> yeah that's th eright ip.. odd
22:48 <@doofoo> NACAlex: what client are you using?
22:48 <@NACAlex> yeah, but the pics are only doing about 30 megs now
22:48 <@NACAlex> IE
22:49 <@doofoo> load up winamp
22:49 < Technix> doofoo : I'm mirroring the first set right now
22:49 <@X15> I want to commit murder when i see 50gb / month for 100....
22:49 <@X15> $100*
22:49 < Technix> in process still.. wget is your friend.
22:49 <@doofoo> it's not my servers friend
22:49 <@NACAlex> yeah
22:49 < Technix> :D
22:49 < trizzo> damn Alex
22:49 <@doofoo> alex - you saw earlier when my box was pushing 100mbit for like an hour didn't you?
22:49 <@NACAlex> i have been wondering how much that server getting killed is people mirroring it
22:49 < trizzo> you didnt get props in the latest directNIC blog update
22:49 < trizzo> wtf!
22:49 <@NACAlex> yeah, that was cool
22:49 <@NACAlex> trizzo, you know me
22:49 <@NACAlex> i am not doing this to get props.
22:50 < trizzo> hehehe
22:50 <@doofoo> well.. not in the blog
22:50 < trizzo> ;-)
22:50 <@doofoo> but when people click that link to the pics
22:50 <@X15> Alex: i think most of the mirros are mirroring mirrors
22:50 < trizzo> national net! the HAUS DE PORNO!
22:50 <@doofoo> they see a nac.net banner ;)
22:50 <@doofoo> lol
22:50 <@doofoo> i made sure of it
22:50 < Technix> I'm mirroring a mirror, actually.
22:50 < pkleinman> anyone from directnic here by any chance?
22:50 <@NACAlex> heh
22:50 <@NACAlex> national-net
22:50 <@NACAlex> every time I see that
22:50 <@NACAlex> i think TSOUL IN THE HIZZIE
22:50 <@doofoo> pkleinman not in here
22:50 < pkleinman> ok
22:50 < trizzo> (poor)HIZZIE
22:50 < trizzo> ;-)
22:50 <@doofoo> alex you saw the links in the photo gallery didn't you?
22:50 < Technix> try in #interdictor perhaps
22:51 <@doofoo> banner rather
22:51 <@NACAlex> haven't talked to him in a while, wonder how he is
22:51 <@NACAlex> yes.
22:51 < CoolerQ> doofoo, are those URLs you posted a minute ago new URLs I should be mirroring from? or are the ports you gave me before still good?
22:51 <@doofoo> did you guys get a counter associated with that jpg?
22:51 <@NACAlex> yes, we're tracking it
22:51 <@doofoo> i would love to see that..
22:51 <@NACAlex> you know, i've been wanting to do a large scale police-radio monitoring effort
22:51 <@doofoo> If you could let me at some point down the road.
22:51 < abuser> ha national net
22:51 < hfx_ben> doofoo: sidebar - is your IRC MSG/PM working?
22:51 <@NACAlex> just had no time.
22:52 <@X15> Alex if you can provide a central server you can get the feeds
22:52 <@doofoo> just got back to you ben
22:52 <@djbsquared> just an FYI if you are not registered on freenode, PM doesnt not work
22:52 <@NACAlex> x15
22:52 <@NACAlex> well that, and
22:52 <@NACAlex> i am in earshot of NYC, and lots of northern NJ
22:52 <@NACAlex> lots of interesting traffic around here
22:52 <@X15> I mean from the entire country
22:52 <@NACAlex> yes
22:52 <@NACAlex> i'd love to supply it
22:53 <@X15> Most of the monitoring groups lack the BW, not the will
22:53 <@doofoo> dc here.. lots of interesting traffic here
22:53 <@NACAlex> doofoo, msg me
22:53 <@NACAlex> x15, who do I talk to? where do I find them?
22:53 <@doofoo> msg'd
22:54 < hfx_ben> I hope folk know they have to nick register for PM.
22:54 <@X15> http://www.radioreference.com/, http://www.scannerbuff.net/, follow the links
22:54 < hfx_ben> *duh me*
22:54 <@X15> Scannerbuff does most of CA, but needs BW badly
22:54 <@X15> RR does everywhere, there provideing some of the NOLA feeds
22:55 <@NACAlex> you know them?
22:55 <@X15> I hung out on scanner buff for a while a while ago, but they should be open to approaches
22:56 <@X15> RR fir example is only able to host 100 people on it's LSA NOLA feed
22:56 <@doofoo> alex - did you want msg on irc or aim?
22:57 <@NACAlex> are you not getting my IRC msgs?
22:57 <@doofoo> no.. lol
22:57 <@NACAlex> WE GOT AN 18 WHEELER FOR MRE'S
22:57 <@NACAlex> hey
22:57 <@NACAlex> aim me
22:57 <@NACAlex> NACAlex is my aim
22:58 < Jsmith01> guys, who removed the NOLA feed from wiki?  We still have the feed working
22:58 <@X15> Alex do /msg chanserv register *password here*
22:58 <@X15> Dunno J, put it back
22:58 < Jsmith01> will do
23:00 <@X15> Hey doofoo, can we get the distributed pictures link on the front page? Might be time to remove the scanner links from there too
23:02 < topside> http://katrina.topside.org/ -- picture mirror up and running
23:02 <@X15> Hmm, you took that over, eh?
23:03 < topside> took what over?
23:03 <@X15> the distributed mirror
23:03 <@X15> It's missing a <br> though
23:04 < Technix> how many MB are all of the images, topside?
23:05 < topside> no clue - its squid proxy
23:05 < topside> i dont download everything
23:05 < Technix> np... I'll continue to download the first set.
23:05 < topside> its a reverse proxy
23:05 < Technix> roughly 6800 images and counting
23:05 < topside> hehe
23:05 < topside> ya I didn't do the rsync - using squid so its more efficient
23:07 <@doofoo> it's about 1.7gb
23:08 <@doofoo> actually
23:08 <@doofoo> about 1.9gb
23:08 <@doofoo> worth of pics
23:09 < uidzero> X15: He didn't take it over, just letting peole know about it. :)
23:09 <@X15> I realize that, just has the same front page
23:09 < uidzero> and for some reason, mine isn't working anymore.
23:10 < uidzero> *nods*
23:10 < Technix> aye.. thanks doofoo
23:11 < Technix> I will be making a torrent of the entire series of image sets, and sharing those torrents later.
23:11 < Technix> well, (excluding the existing torrents now)
23:11 < Technix> you know what I mean.
23:13 < MrPants> i've got 1.7gb
23:13 < MrPants> of pics, that is
23:13 < MrPants> 4 galleries
23:13 < uidzero> 39 here. :)
23:14 < MrPants> although i did redo some of the thumbs
23:14 < Technix> anyone have a live fox news tv feed?
23:18 < pi314> anyone fro, directnic here?
23:19 <@NACAlex> what is 'scanner4' ?
23:20 <@X15> Astrodome
23:20 < {dm}> Scanner 4 is astrodome.  Its one trunk being broadcast.
23:20 <@NACAlex> url?
23:20 < {dm}> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=Radio_Info has links to all.
23:24 < Jsmith01> guys, stupid question...  whats the best way to uproxy the pictures?  (using squid)?
23:41 < uidzero> Jsmith01: Uninstall squid?
23:49 < Jsmith01> ok, I'm using apache now
23:49 < Jsmith01> just getting some errors for some reason
23:49 < Jsmith01> not sure why
23:52 < Jsmith01> can somebody look at: http://katrina.gundevils.com and tell me what is wrong :)
23:53 < Jsmith01> lots of broken links for some reason
23:54 < nibbler__> the http:// is missing on the urls
23:54 < Jsmith01> ok
23:55 < Jsmith01> ok, should be fixed... can somebody tell me if they're all working now?
--- Day changed Sat Sep 03 2005
00:03 < Jsmith01> poke
00:04 <@Yog-home> uidzero: uidtwo is way cooler
00:04 < uidzero> Ok
00:04 <@Yog-home> ;)
00:04 < uidzero> uidzero: :P
00:05 < uidzero> I'm having squid/apache issues.
00:05 < nibbler__> Jsmith01, looks the same to me
00:06 < Jsmith01> nibbler- same in a good way or bad?
00:06 < nibbler__> same as in still broken
00:06 <@Yog-home> u can just rsync 'em from a few places
00:06 <@Yog-home> local copy > *
00:07 < Jsmith01> ok, for me they're working now
00:07 < uidzero> Jsmith01: Is that yours or someone elses?
00:07 < Jsmith01> uidzero- http://katrina.gundevils.com is me
00:07 < uidzero> Ok
00:07 < uidzero> I think I'm part of the problem.
00:07 < Jsmith01> are you still getting broken images on there?  because it's working great for me
00:08 < uidzero> Did you talk to eMoose and did he add you to te round robin?
00:08 < abuser> admittance is the first step toward recovery
00:08 < Jsmith01> not yet
00:08 < Jsmith01> I want to make sure it's working
00:12 < uidzero> Running: squid -sY  >> /usr/local/squid/squid.out 2>&1
00:12 < uidzero> How does it restart it's self?
00:16 < LOJAC> any updates on Buras La
00:22 < bootnet2> fast mirror of the pics ----> katrina.bootnetworks.com
00:24 < Jsmith01> boot- can you take a look at http://katrina.gundevils.com and see if it works for you?
00:24 < bootnet2> works here jsmith
00:25 < Jsmith01> thanks
00:25 < Jsmith01> well guess we're both waiting to be added to the mirror
00:27 < bootnet2> I didnt think it would be needed ... was working with everyone this morning, but a lot of the mirrors are slow
00:27 -!- Inaki[Work] is now known as Inaki
00:28 < Jsmith01> well X15 asked me to do that next :)
00:28 < bootnet2> asked you to do what?
00:29 < Jsmith01> setup the mirror
00:29 < bootnet2> ahhhh...thinking of redoing it in an easier to view format,so you can just click through the pics
00:30 < bootnet2> havent talked to him since noon
00:31 < bootnet2> did he want you to email the mirror link?
00:31 <@X15> e-mail moose
00:32 < bootnet2> what's his address?
00:33 <@X15> It's on your front page
00:33 <@X15> Well, not yours, your apparently not mirroring it
00:33 <@X15> http://katrina.moose.to/
00:36 < silas>    
00:41 < Jsmith01> can i get one more test of http://katrina.gundevils.com had to change some server settings
00:43 < spstarr> Connected
00:44 < Roy> it works for me
00:45 < Roy> they should date the pictures
00:45 < Roy> i dont know which ones are uptodate
00:45 < Roy> and why so many pictures of the same picture
00:45 < Roy> waste of bandwidth
00:45 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
00:46 < Roy> ChrisBradley is that your site?
00:46 < ChrisBradley> Yes
00:46 < Roy> your MISSING PERSONS LIST page doesnt work
00:46 < Roy> or that link
00:47 < Roy> its destination isnt working
00:47 < ChrisBradley> It did earlier - it may have move
00:47 < ChrisBradley> Thank you
00:47 < Roy> you should link to _parent
00:47 < ChrisBradley> I will check on it
00:47 < Roy> so that the person doesnt leave your original webpage
00:47 < Roy> it opens a new browser window
00:48 < ChrisBradley> Do you use the _target command?
00:48 < Roy> yes
00:48 < Roy> well
00:48 < Roy> thats the area to do it
00:49 < ChrisBradley> <P><A HREF="http://kenburtonne.web116.discountasp.net/Katrina/Status.aspx">MISSING PERSONS LIST</a></P>
00:49 < ChrisBradley> Thats the link
00:50 < ChrisBradley> I will just remove that one for the time being until I can find a new one
00:50 < Roy> o
00:50 < Roy> just add target="blank" to the link
00:50 < Roy> code
00:51 < uidzero> Anyone good with squid and apache? I'm having problems I can't figure out.
00:51 < Squink> target="_blank" ;)
00:51 < Roy> target="blank" works too
00:51 < Squink> does it? neat. I've never actually tried. Figured it was some kind of underscore standardization or something
00:52 < Roy> it works
00:52 < Roy> i used it today
00:52 < ChrisBradley> Anyone who has a latest link to other missing persons sites would be cool
00:53 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com is fixed
00:53 < ChrisBradley> Can someone post a quick example <a href=""></a> with _parent?
00:53 < Roy> heh
00:53 < ChrisBradley> Where does the _parent go?
00:54 < Roy> <P><A HREF="http://kenburtonne.web116.discountasp.net/Katrina/Status.aspx" target="blank" >MISSING PERSONS LIST</a></P>
00:54 < ChrisBradley> Thanks
00:54 < ChrisBradley> I will update all the links
00:55 < Roy> yup
00:56 <@mathx>  hows things in here
01:01 < ChrisBradley> Hey thanks roy - the site is much improved with that blank
01:01 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
01:02 < ChrisBradley> Anyone have a site submission tool?
01:03 < ChrisBradley> I submitted it to yahoo but their crawler is slow
01:04 < texasamy> http://www.google.com/addurl/?continue=/addurl
01:04 < ChrisBradley> Thank you amy
01:05 < texasamy> yw
01:14 < CaptHappy> any news on the fuel situation?
01:15 < ChrisBradley> I've got Interdictors New Orleans video rolling on my PC now
01:17 < texasamy> you mean the feed?
01:17 < ChrisBradley> yes
01:18 < ChrisBradley> I still can't talk in #interdictor
01:18 < ChrisBradley> too many users i guess
01:18 < texasamy> so you can't get in?
01:18 < JD-AU> i would like to offer a mirror for pictures.
01:18 < ChrisBradley> I'm there it just won't accept my typing
01:18 < ChrisBradley> Might be moderated or something
01:18 < Qwijib0> that's because it's moderated
01:19 < uidzero> Ok, I got that figured out, thanks Jsmith01.
01:19 < uidzero> JD-AU: http://katrina.moose.to
01:19 < ChrisBradley> I would like a picture to put on my site
01:19 < ChrisBradley> http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans
01:19 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
01:22 < ChrisBradley> Can I use one of those flag pictures from http://katrina.moose.to/east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ on my site?
01:23 < uidzero> Who is going to stop you?
01:23 < ChrisBradley> Ok. Thank you uidzero
01:23 < ChrisBradley> I didn't know if they were (c)
01:23 < Inaki> just because no one is stopping doesn't mean he can't show common curtacy
01:24 < texasamy> I would say just post a link back to where you got them
01:24 < ChrisBradley> Ok
01:24 < texasamy> give credit where it is due
01:24 < Inaki> er ya what texasamy said
01:25 < MrPants> that's the only constraint on any of the pictures, just say where you got them- you can use any of them
01:25 < uidzero> Inaki: *nods*, I'm just saying.
01:25 < Inaki> no one could technically stop you, but that doesn't mean its not rude =P
01:25 < texasamy> y'all should set up a flickr account for all of those
01:25 < uidzero> *nods* :P
01:26 < Inaki> er.. flickr would probably be upset at the bandwidth
01:26 < Inaki> I belive some loadbalancing setups are being looked into
01:27 < robotalk> interdictor's cell phone have 802.11?
01:27 < texasamy> hmmm... maybe... you could always check out the limits though
01:27 < Inaki> the pics are pulling in the gbit AFAIK
01:27 < Inaki> its better to keep it to our own servers and just farm out the load..
01:27 < texasamy> so can anyone tell me how they are doing the live feed?
01:28 < texasamy> what kind of cam?
01:28 < texasamy> any software?
01:28 < Inaki> unsure
01:29 < texasamy> I have had a cam in the past and wanted something more like what they have but never got it working
01:30  * texasamy is a mega-dork posing as a normal person
01:31 < Inaki> lol
01:31 < texasamy> :)
01:31 <@X15> Cam is some generic web cam served by Windows Media Encoder on Win 2K according to the folks at Outpost Crystal
01:32 <@X15> On a 3 yr old HP laptop
01:32 < Plaid> any current network or systems crises?
01:33 <@X15> Here or in NOLA?
01:33 < texasamy> served by WM? hmmm... just learning about this again... seeing their cam has inspired me
01:33 <@X15> Yes tex
01:33 < Plaid> anything I can help with, short of supplying boxes or bandwidth
01:34 < fugoo> yes!
01:34 < fugoo> join #nola-intel-help
01:34 <@X15> Not at the moment Plaid, things are running smothly as can be hopes
01:34 < Plaid> thank you
01:34 < Plaid> fugoo: will do
01:34 < fugoo> we are short on transcription
01:34 < fugoo> and need morethen you. .
01:34 < Jsmith01> guys, just an FYI
01:34 < texasamy> when you say served by WM you mean when someone clicks the link for the cam WM player comes up?
01:34 < jfitch> Hello folks
01:34 < fugoo> and more then right now..
01:34 < fugoo> (late night usa)
01:35 < JD-AU> •texasamy• yes
01:35 <@X15> tex Windows Media Encoder / server
01:35 < Plaid> I'm unable to sit and transcribe for more than a few minutes at a time. I'm a father of three ;)
01:35 < Jsmith01> with UIDZero's help, I managed to find a simple way to cache proxy websites through apache (no squid required)
01:35 < JD-AU> hows that jsmith01?
01:36 < Jsmith01> using mod_rpoxy and mod_cache
01:36 < Jsmith01> bahh mod_proxy
01:36 < texasamy> is there anything being used to operate the cam and its settings?
01:36 < fugoo> Plaid, ask in -help about wiki needs. .
01:37 < Plaid> will do
01:38 < fugoo> thanks!
01:38 < Jsmith01> i don't want to spam the config but if you need to know I'll pm it to you
01:39 < uidzero> Jsmith01: Find out if he/she is going to do it the way you are or with squid/apache.
01:40 < texasamy> Jsmith01: you talking about the cam config?
01:40 < Jsmith01> no texas, website mirroring
01:40 < texasamy> oh..ok
01:40 < Jsmith01> as uid said, my way doesn't use squid, just apache
01:41 < Jsmith01> but it is caching, and seems to be working correctly
01:48 < yllona> hello. who do i contact about housing for direcnic employees?
01:48 < yllona> no e-mail or contact info pn the blog/wiki/website that i could find
01:48 <@X15> yllona: Donny on #interdictor
01:48 < Plaid> yllona: Try #interdictor and #interdictor chat.
01:48 < yllona> they sent me over here
01:48 < yllona> :)
01:49 < Jsmith01> noah@intercosmos.com
01:49 < yllona> thank you. will follow up.
01:49 <@X15> Perpaphs they didn't understand you
01:49 < Jsmith01> thats the email address yllona
01:49 <@X15> You want to host there physical location, yes?
01:49 < yllona> could be. they're scrambling but doing amazin work
01:50 < yllona> provide shelter, food housing, that basic human stuff
01:50 < yllona> tyou need that too, don't you?
01:50 < yllona> or did i misunderstand?
01:50 <@X15> Then yes, email that address and / or message Donny
01:51 <@X15> None of us in here are InterNIC employes
01:51 <@X15> That i know of
01:52 < yllona> okay, will do. the black churches are really well organized, and providing a separate "humanitarian effort"
01:52 < Jsmith01> *shurgs*
01:52 < yllona> if no one will be offended i can most defineitely orgaonize some carsh space
01:52 <@X15> In fact i don't think many of us are from LA at all...
01:52 < Jsmith01> X15- I'm heading to bed...  I'll check back in tomorrow and see if you guys need anything else, and get that mms redirector up
01:52 <@X15> Wre mostly just here to rally around the InterNIC guys
01:53 < yllona> i understand. the black cheuches are providing anatinwide effort. we have the network. we can keep you in the south
01:53 <@X15> K, thanks for what you;ve done Jsmith01, cya tomorrow
01:53 < yllona> *nationwide effort.
01:53 < fugoo> can i interject that this chan may want to get a plan together for getting this information (distilled and summerized data as known direct transcriptions admittedly from off site civilians) into the hands of some communications officers of some federal agency..
01:53 < vortexer>  fugoo where are you getting these updates ( for digest channel )
01:54 < fugoo> from the summeries posted to #interdictor
01:54 <@X15> fugoo, the Government has people that are paid to do what we do
01:54 < vortexer> ok
01:54 < fugoo> no shit, where are they?
01:54 < yllona> okay, out will communicate by e-mail. tahnks
01:54 < vortexer> hah, good question, where are they
01:54 < fugoo> the transcripts clearly show that is not in place yet. .
01:54 < Plaid> army researchers, yeah.
01:54 < Plaid> they should be doing this
01:54 < JD-AU> should is the key word
01:54 < fugoo> we have the data assuming we can keep 2-3+ on the transcription..
01:55 <@X15> fugoo: I don't think you grasp what a limited subset of communications were monitoring here
01:55 < Jsmith01> fugoo- they are taping those radio channels
01:55 < fugoo> yes
01:55 < Jsmith01> they don't transscript radios normally... they just tape them... then if there is a reason they go back and transcribe them
01:55 < fugoo> between al lthe locales here we have a fairly decent 10k view of the public emergency channels. .
01:56 < fugoo> yes but that is a slow process we have it here realtime nearly. .
01:56 < fugoo> and its working ya'll
01:56 < fugoo> we're ahead of cable 100%
01:56 < Jsmith01> fugoo, do you have a list of audio feeds I don't... we're monitoring 3 or 4 feeds right now?
01:56 < Plaid> it'll work better if we can get some relief for some of our tired people
01:56 <@X15> fugoo, whre listening to what, 5 frequencys? they have hundreds
01:56 < Plaid> Jsmith01: 4
01:57 < Jsmith01> we need to get somebody on the NOLA feed again, it has some interesting traffic
01:57 < Plaid> x15: We're able to provide news details well ahead of of the news channels.
01:57 < JD-AU> are the radio channels being played via internet?
01:57 <@X15> Because the news channels have to make sure it's true
01:57 < Jsmith01> JD- yes, http://ww.gundevils.com:8000
01:57 < JD-AU> ty
01:57 < fugoo> i know, i'm saying you'll be surprised how much data IS here, compared to the raw data, we do have 'orgizational planning gold' i'm sure of it. .
01:57 < Jsmith01> make that http://www.gundevils.com:8000
01:57 <@X15> There not Drudge, they can't report everything they here without conformation
01:57 < JD-AU> np
01:57 < fugoo> i know, i'm not saying its gospel..
01:58 <@X15> fugoo: Were haveing to guess on callsigns, they have a list
01:58 < fugoo> just that someone should be looking at this and maybe no one is. .
01:58 < fugoo> sure
01:58 < Plaid> X15: Again, understood, but so far most of what I hear gets confirmed from cable news within 30m
01:58 <@X15> Plaid: They have to get details, they can't just say "Fire reported in area x"
01:59 < vortexer> fugoo, the scanner4 pastes are coming in from what source?
01:59 < Plaid> X15: acknowledged
01:59 <@X15> They have to ask officals if it's true, get press releases
01:59 < fugoo> houston
01:59 < fugoo> police radio
01:59 < vortexer> any channel for that?
01:59 < Plaid> I'm not saying our stuff is better, just earlier.
01:59 < fugoo> all of which distracts the officials X15
01:59 < Jsmith01> X15, Plaid does have a point...  setting up some type of highlight and link back to the transscript 30m before normal news channels get the info, would generate a lot of traffic once word got out
02:00 <@X15> Earlier then the News, not earlier then the EOC
02:00 <@X15> Jsmith it's called the "blogger revolution" and were on the fore front
02:00 < fugoo> again there are ppl who can act on this information here and thy clearly don;t al lhave all of it yet..
02:01 <@X15> Also, rember that most of the details are going out by phone, we don't have that info
02:01  * fugoo fades back having made the point he wanted. .
02:01 < {dm}> What am I missing?
02:01 < Jsmith01> fuggoo- the real target for the info is news junkies, not the EOC or "Agency"
02:01 < Jsmith01> people
02:01 < fugoo> not if you wanna speed this debocle up into a rescue. .
02:02 <@X15> fugoo: What's faster, watching our transcription of listening to the radio?
02:02 <@X15> or*
02:02 < Jsmith01> fugoo- trust me, if you called them and told them what you had, the guys running the EOC or any of the Agency folks, aren't going to be interested
02:03 < fugoo> well can you listen to 5 radios at one time..
02:03 < fugoo> we have it distilled to 2 channels. .
02:03 < fugoo> right now, as long as we triple up no the transcription and vett the summeries. .
02:03 <@X15> And they have 5 people on those 5 radios
02:03 < fugoo> er vett = clarify what can be
02:03 <@X15> That are trained to transcribe
02:04 < fugoo> do they?
02:04 <@X15> Yes, they do
02:04 < fugoo> have you seen the dta they're getting back?
02:04 < fugoo> er data
02:04 < Jsmith01> X15- in all likely hood they don't
02:04 <@X15> Most of the staff at the EOCs are stitting at computers talking on a phone or radio
02:04 < fugoo> ex: request for information about X/Y" answer: please call ##_###_####
02:04 < fugoo> sounds to me like they do not. .
02:05 <@X15> And you suggest calling that answer and telling them what you know? What they probably already know but want more details on?
02:05 < Jsmith01> fugoo- the interesting part would be to figure out some way to grab highlights... and move the transsciption online... so you could say a cancer patient was being flown from X hospital.. then link back to the transcribing
02:06 <@X15> answer = number (been up for 22 hours)
02:06 < Plaid> Jsmith01: Simple PHP site would do that.
02:06 < Plaid> I can name that tune in 20 lines of PHP
02:06 < Jsmith01> but again, your target would be news junkies, and the news agency themselves
02:06 <@X15> If you can make a good enough data tracking utility the gov will buy it
02:07 < Jsmith01> or what X15 said :)
02:07 <@X15> Of course you also need a paper version
02:07 <@X15> that's fully compatible with the computerized one
02:07 < douglas_carmicha> someone talked about streaming music/video to them... don't they want to conserve their bandwidth?
02:07 < Kremit> Plaid: but your script would have to be able to recognize 'events' like that and not just 10-2's and other crosstalk
02:08 < Jsmith01> I don't see a script doing the "recognize" part
02:08 <@X15> He's suggesting human data entry
02:08 < Jsmith01> if we heard something "news" worthy, we'd summarize it, and then the script would link back to the transcript where that conversation was being said... maybe even color it differently
02:09 < douglas_carmicha> (with only 1 OC3 up.)
02:09 <@X15> douglas_carmicha: I'm sure they know exactly how much BW they have to spare
02:09 < Kremit> Jsmith01: ok, thats what I was thinking... but you'd still need humans watching the text to look for that, possibly the transcribers
02:09 <@X15> They took Something Awful offline, saved them alot
02:09 < Kremit> look for highlights*
02:09 < Jsmith01> exactly
02:10 < Jsmith01> but, the output would be gold
02:10 < Jsmith01> you'd be the drudge report for the happenings inside NO
02:10 < icculus> ok, screw this. Video transcoding is just fricking impossible with the tools we've got now.
02:11 <@X15> LOL, still working on that horrid task?
02:11 < icculus> yeah
02:11 < icculus> With enough fighting I can get Quicktime, or Windows Media Player, or mplayer, or vlc to play the stream, but never two at the same time.
02:11 < icculus> It's cursed.
02:12 <@X15> That it is
02:12 <@X15> That's why most sites have at the most two sources, and if you don't like it, tough
02:12 < Jsmith01> icculus, what is the starting file format, and what do you want to change it to?
02:12 <@X15> Jsmith01: He wasnts to do it ON THE FLY
02:13 < Jsmith01> X15- i understand
02:13 < icculus> Jsmith01: windows media 3, probably mpeg something or other.
02:13 <@X15> You pretty much need a appliance for that...
02:13 < Jsmith01> *nods*
02:13 < Jsmith01> i might have a toy
02:13 < icculus> I can get it to convert to mpeg1, but I can't get it to convert from there to anything that two given players will accept.
02:14 < icculus> (accept as a stream, that is)
02:14 < Jsmith01> you've got it to mpeg1?
02:14 < icculus> Yeah, that part's easy.
02:14 < Jsmith01> and want it to play on both quicktime and windows player?
02:14 < Kremit> I've used mencoder to transcode [any] to MPEG4, but not streaming... and the last time I played with transcode I wanted to scream
02:15 < icculus> Jsmith01: well, plus Linux-friendly formats.
02:16 < Jsmith01> ahh... now that is the challenge
02:16 < icculus> At this point, though, I'd settle for a perl script that reads the wmv off the one site and just rebroadcasts it
02:17 < uidzero>  94M    /usr/local/squid/cache/ It;s slowly getting bigger,
02:17 < icculus> uidzero: are those the photos?
02:17 < uidzero> Yeah, I just started mirroring with a squid proxy.
02:18 < icculus> uidzero: the first photo set is 1.3 gigs.  :)
02:18 < uidzero> Yeah, I figure it will take awhile. :)
02:18 < H202> is www.directnic.com now down?
02:19 < Kremit> not from here...
02:19 < uidzero> H202: No, check your DNS.
02:19 < H202> dns resolves, but trace stops at 24.56.107.230
02:20 < H202> dns resolves to 204.251.10.43, is that OK?
02:20 < Jsmith01> anyhow, night guys
02:20 < uidzero> H202: Corrct.
02:21 < uidzero> Jsmith01: Night.
02:23  * PhiRatE returns
02:23 <@PhiRatE> Ok, what's the story with photo mirrors?
02:24 <@X15> We have lots
02:24 <@X15> Useing Squid
02:24 <@PhiRatE> nice :)
02:24 <@PhiRatE> get the video working too?
02:25 < uidzero> I'm mirroring emoose's site via squid.
02:25 <@X15> A company steped in
02:26 <@PhiRatE> handy :)
02:26 <@X15> Was working fine, now it's buffering all of a sudden, but there serving a shat load of people
02:26 <@PhiRatE> Ibet!
02:27 < ChrisBradley> Can I get some opinions on the improvement of this page?
02:27 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
02:27 <@X15> Mikle just mesed up the cam!
02:28  * PhiRatE saw
02:28 <@PhiRatE> funny :)
02:28 <@PhiRatE> re the ncpink page, seems like it works :)
02:28 < ChrisBradley> Thanks PhiRate
02:29 <@X15> chris: lose the backrgound tile
02:29 < ChrisBradley> PhiRate - Do you have any Rapid Site Submission tools?
02:29 <@PhiRatE> What, is a rapid site submission?
02:29 < ChrisBradley> Ok X15
02:29 < ChrisBradley> To get it into search engines fast - Yahoo and Google still haven't added it
02:30 < Wohali> Hi folks -- need someone with video mirroring capability
02:30 <@PhiRatE> Mirror request from mathy in #interdictor if you're not watching, new vid feed
02:30 <@PhiRatE> Oh right, no :)
02:30 <@X15> Shitm we need a WMS mirror ASAP!!!!
02:31 < uidzero> How can I mirror it?
02:31 <@PhiRatE> uidzero: the faq has a vlc command line, I don't know if its current
02:32 < uidzero> Where is the faq?
02:32 <@PhiRatE> http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.tx
02:32 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/ - Graphic removed
02:32 <@PhiRatE> err
02:32 <@PhiRatE> http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
02:33 < douglas_carmicha> Are there assets that can get
02:33 < douglas_carmicha> Interdictor and Crystal OUT if the worst happens?
02:33 <@PhiRatE> douglas: main channel for that kinda question. I believe they're well served.
02:34 < douglas_carmicha> I can't send to it..
02:34 <@selcouth> X15: hey
02:34 <@selcouth> Around?
02:34 <@X15> Yes
02:34 <@selcouth> We have new link
02:34 <@selcouth> You ready?
02:35 <@selcouth> For mirroring?
02:35 <@X15> pm me
02:35 < uidzero> I'm adding vlc to my server now.
02:35 < Wohali> anyone else available for mirroring?
02:35 < jon787> can an op in #interdictor re-op me, I hit Ctrl+D by accident and it closed me IRC window
02:35 <@selcouth> /msg X15 mms://.....
02:35 < Fobax> I've got 40-50mbit
02:35 <@selcouth> haaaa fooled you guys :P
02:35 < jon787> thanks Wohali
02:36 < Jsmith01> sel- video feed or pictures?
02:36 <@selcouth> Video
02:36 <@selcouth> X15: we good?
02:36 < Ruthless2545> Hi all.
02:36 < Wohali> you're welcome
02:36 < jfitch> hello folks
02:36 < insane|> elo everyone...
02:36 < insane|> still data pipes needeD? i can offer .de 100mbits...
02:36 < Ruthless2545> If you guys need a mirror for anything, I've got a DS3 to offer up.
02:37 <@selcouth> We need mms mirrors
02:37 <@selcouth> X15: you know about setting it all up?
02:37 <@X15> insane|: need WMS on Windows
02:37 < JD-AU> if i had the bandwidth, i would in a second
02:37 <@X15> Hang on guys, making a call
02:38 < insane|> X15 sorry... i only got linux boxes...
02:38 < Squink> God damn it. If i was in the new office I'd have windows boxes AND a gigabit connection for you =(
02:38 < Squink> talk about timing
02:38 < uidzero> I have a Win2003 server ere, but, it's only on my cable line. :|
02:39 < Fobax> I can mirror images easily enough. That's what my linux boxes are optimized for. Only got 50mbit free though
02:39 < uidzero> Fobax: http://katrina.moose.to
02:39 <@X15> Llama, "use the toll free emergeny number", what's the number???
02:40 <@X15> Also said to use e-mail, sending nwo
02:40 < insane|> X15 if you got a minute... take a look in my query
02:40 < Juggie> wasnt directnic providing sometype of service to the gov?
02:40 < Juggie> tell them if they want to keep it, you need fuel :P
02:41 < insane|> heh if they are running out of fuel... the diesel engines run with olivia oil, too
02:41 < insane|> ;)
02:41 < insane|> smells like pommes frites... but works
02:41 < Juggie> heh
02:41 <@selcouth> X15: status?
02:41 < insane|> really... dont believe me?
02:42 < Juggie> i believe you
02:42 < insane|> its the same stuff that is beeing selled here in germany als biological diesel
02:42 < Juggie> i just hope fuel can be gotten
02:42 < icculus> I thought they had a shipment showing up in a few hours
02:42 <@X15> Who sent me a message about mirroring?
02:42 < insane|> me
02:43 < insane|> should i open query again?
02:43 < Juggie> the problem isnt directnic, but their provider will be out soon
02:43 <@X15> use /msg please
02:43 < logan|> X15: I need instructions on how to mirror the feed.
02:43 < logan|> ie. what application is used, etc.
02:43 <@X15> Setup Windows Media Server on Windows 2k or 2k3
02:43 < Juggie> i bet they are really shooting themselves in the foot for missing the initial deisel delivery
02:43 < logan|> I'm running gentoo linux.
02:44 < logan|> Is there any way to mirror on a *nix/bsd box?
02:44 < RatOHome> .
02:44 < insane|> is there any pendant to wmv on *
02:44 < insane|> nix
02:44 < insane|> unix/linux
02:44 <@PhiRatE> we believe vlc can do it, but it's a bit dodgy.
02:44 < Tyger> Is the cam back up yet?
02:44 < insane|> not for watching...
02:44 < insane|> for providing streaming service
02:44 < insane|> sorry for my fucked up english...
02:45 < Tyger> Well then any mirrors up yet?
02:45 <@PhiRatE> yeah, vlc :) it can act as a reflector
02:45 <@X15> Does anyone have the advection.net info, anyone know how it was aranged?
02:45  * insane| got some (lots of) beer in...
02:45 < Juggie> if you can get it on the old port, the servers that were mirroring before can mirror again
02:45 < Juggie> it shoudnt be hard to specify the previous port
02:45 <@X15> Juggie, you know how offhand?
02:46 < Juggie> using windows media encoder?
02:46 < Juggie> let me look
02:46 < Juggie> i've done it before
02:46 < logan|> I'm going to compile vlc and see if I can get it to mirror that way.
02:47  * Juggie looking
02:47 < Mountain_Bofh> do the directnic guys need help mirroring static pictures?
02:47 < JD-AU> http://katrina.moose.to
02:48 < JD-AU> •Mountain_Bofh• thats for you, the URL for info on pic mirroring
02:48 < Mountain_Bofh> ok reading now, thanks
02:48 < ellenm_> Is there a URL for cam feed mirroring?
02:48 < uidzero> ellenm_: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
02:48 < Gamer> One of the cam mirrors just came back up
02:48 < ellenm_> thx
02:49 < Gamer> I'm looking at a laptop and a tv
02:49 <@X15> Ok, we have access to Mike?
02:49 <@X15> Someone voice me on interdictor please
02:50 <@selcouth> X15: are all mirrors up?
02:50 <@selcouth> Or just that one
02:51 < logan|> who manages the faq
02:51 <@X15> Everything is back
02:51 <@selcouth> Ok
02:51 <@selcouth> Thanks. Will keep you posted
02:51 <@X15> They got on my email right click, very cool of them!
02:51 <@selcouth> Awesome
02:51 < Crispy`> What's the mirror that's up?
02:51 <@selcouth> X15: thank you so much
02:52 <@X15> NP
02:52 <@X15> Crispy`: they should all be back
02:52 < Crispy`> I can't save links. :( I'll try and find it again.
02:53 < insane|> is the windows media server application stuff free for download (sorry for dumb question... iŽm a unix guy)
02:53 < ChrisBradley> Just fixed up http://katrinarelief.schtuff.com/katrina_relief
02:54 < Ruthless2545> media server is included in 2k & 2k3
02:54 < ellenm_> They're all saying "busy" for me :(
02:54 < insane|> Ruthless2545 i dont have the install media around here...
02:56 < Ruthless2545> I don't *think* you can download the install for the server, just the encoders/etc
02:56 < insane|> hrm... kk iŽll find it somewhere in this fuckin chaos
02:57 < Ruthless2545> if it's actually all in an msi, I can put it up for ya.
02:57 < insane|> whould be nice if you can check it out
02:58 < Ruthless2545> looking
02:58 < RatOHome> insane|: if ya got a 2k3 server, think it should be there. use the "server roles" thingy maybe
02:58  * RatOHome hopes he's not talking out of his a$$
02:59 < Ruthless2545> It'll probly ask for the CD when ya add the role
02:59 < insane|> nop its not 2k3 :/
02:59 < uidzero> How is everyone playing mms:// on linux/freebsd?
02:59 <@PhiRatE> vlc, mplayer
02:59 < insane|> totem
02:59 < insane|> xine
02:59 <@PhiRatE> mplayer seems to be working best
02:59 < insane|> totem wirks very well, too
02:59 < uidzero> mplayer dopesn't open it.
02:59 <@PhiRatE> depends on the libs you have installed
02:59 <@PhiRatE> yeah, any of mplayer, vlc, totem and xine
03:00 < insane|> mplayer keeps on stopping all the time
03:00 < insane|> if he lost buffer...
03:00 < JD-AU> i'm using mplayer with the win32 codecs installed
03:00 < insane|> and wont restart ...
03:00 < Ruthless2545> there is a wms.cab on the 2k3 CD.. you 2k or 2k3?
03:00 < insane|> bah pls... gimme a hit... my english sounds like english from a russian guy
03:01 < uidzero> Connect error : Connection refused
03:01 < RatOHome> he said "not 2k3"
03:02 < Ruthless2545> ack.. missed that
03:02 <@X15> both work
03:02 <@PhiRatE> signing off for a while, cya people
03:02  * PhiRatE is away - out - messages will be saved.
03:02 < insane|> shouldn the 2k3 thing work on 2k too?=
03:02 < insane|> i think so...
03:02 < Ruthless2545> dunno, never tried.
03:02 <@X15> WMS works on both
03:02 <@X15> There running it on 2k for the cam
03:02 < Ruthless2545> wms does.. but with the install for 2k3 run on 2k ?
03:02 < insane|> could you pls put it somewhere up?
03:02 < RatOHome> with OS rev chgs at MS, you never can tell
03:03 < uidzero> What's the URL?
03:03  * RatOHome app chgs too
03:03 <@X15> mms://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf
03:04 < uidzero> Is it up?
03:04 < pixel8> ya.
03:04 < H202> yes
03:04 < pixel8> i see it.
03:04 < Tyger> yes
03:04 < pixel8> what is that?
03:04 < Ruthless2545> insanel: sec, copying to web.
03:04 < Tyger> Not much going on
03:04 < insane|> kk thx
03:04 < RatOHome> Ruthless: I'm concerned the answer might be no. server 2k to 2k3 is similar to windows 2k to XP.
03:04 < fugoo> ok, i have one last bit of input for the tech team to think about
03:04 < uidzero> xine or mplayer isn't doing anything.
03:04 < H202> why don't they turn some lights off?
03:04 < Tyger> Everyone is on the roof or something.
03:05 < Fobax> hmm, trying to mirror the images with rsync (only have apache setup, not squid), but the east-boston.utopus.net dns fails
03:05 < slvrRose> is there a link to the webcam?  The ones on the blog don't seem to be working for me...?
03:05 < entity_> I have a question about the OC3 connection. If it dies, do they have servers anywhere else?
03:05 < H202> not yet
03:05  * RatOHome is still concerned if they are checking the crankcase oil in the genset.
03:05 < NotJust4Breakfas> Is asking CNN to foot the bill for a helicopter fuel drop on the roof totally out of the question?
03:05 < H202> probably smart to unlock the domains while it's still possible
03:05 < Tyger> The latest link to the webcam posted as a blog entry works.
03:06 < fugoo> http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11.html?1
03:06 < H202> and pay for reneval if expiration is in september
03:06 < entity_> So if the OC3 goes down, that means that all directDNS users will lose connectivity?
03:06 < fugoo> heres how to ask em, trade a continuoius transcript for fuel..
03:06 < H202> yes
03:06 < Lefur> barrels of diesel won't be much good if the generator's in the parking garage.
03:06 < H202> and you cannot manage your domains anymore
03:06 < Lefur> if the barrels are on the roof I mean.
03:06 < cmdr_will> do you guys need any server space? i have an empty deti server
03:07 < fugoo> this information network is WELL AHED of even cnn,. who easily has the most (sans local bcast) reporters region wide...
03:07 < fugoo> er well ahead
03:07 < NotJust4Breakfas> Is the elevator working?
03:07 < entity_> Is there anything that a user can do right now to avoid this? Is transfer possible? Or adding another offiste DNS server?
03:07 < Ruthless2545> insanel: http://209.7.140.19/wms.cab is the 2k3 install, lemme know if you need the 2k ver
03:07 < insane|> kk 1 min, iŽll try
03:07 < NotJust4Breakfas> drop barrel by barrel one floor to an elevator, then down to the garage
03:07 < uidzero> Just a shot off the office?
03:07 < H202> renew all domains
03:08 < H202> unlock
03:08  * fugoo requests that someone at Crystal who's 'in charge' make the email request of cnn.. 
03:08 < entity_> H202, when you say you can't manage domains anymore, that means this moment, or once the OC3 goes down?
03:08 < Juggie> the problem isnt fuel @ crystal
03:08 < Juggie> its fuel @ the pop that provides their oc3
03:08 < Juggie> read the damn post
03:08 < Fobax> where should I rsync the images from?
03:08 < slvrRose> I don't understand why they can't take fuel down to the generator for that OC3...?
03:08  * fugoo is out for the night.. 
03:09 < fugoo> thanks guys and girls!
03:09 < H202> this moment and when OC3 goes down, i have problems reaching www.directnic.com this week
03:09 < cmdr_will> my thought to..why cant they take some down there
03:09 < entity_> H202, have you transfered domains away?
03:09 < Juggie> h202, they have already said directnic will remain up
03:09 < insane|> vlc works for mirroring, too?
03:09 < slvrRose> I assume it's heavy, but it sounded like they have dollies or something in the blog.
03:09 < entity_> Juggie, where/how?
03:09 < H202> no, but i did renew all domains that expire in september
03:10 < carltaws> you wanna push a barrel of fuel down a street with snipers about? i wouldn't
03:10 < entity_> I'm concered as we're using their DNS service as well.
03:10 < H202> i would not want to transfer the domains, that would hurt them
03:10 < Juggie> entity_, they are not going to host all their dns servers @ one location
03:10 < Juggie> your dns will not go down
03:11 <@X15> Guys, i'm pretty sure they have offsite servers setup and waiting, there not stupid
03:11 < pixel8> Ya..they are looking for space for 55 people.
03:11 < insane|> vlc works for mirroring, too? ..........
03:11 < entity_> That's what I would expect, yes. Their website says that they have two distinct locations.
03:11 < Juggie> well there you go :)
03:11 < Juggie> dont worry
03:11 < entity_> But we had a few hiccups this week.
03:11 < entity_> So I'm a little worried. Obviously, safety first.
03:11 < Juggie> the only thing i would worry about is co-located servers
03:12 < entity_> I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, just serving two interests.
03:12 < Juggie> they obviously cant take everything
03:12 < entity_> None of those. Yeah
03:12 < cmdr_will> did u guys get all the main domains on backups?
03:12 < Juggie> but anything they just host, i would hope is backed up
03:12 < entity_> I've tried to get a tertiary DNS server added, but their servers won't transfer the zone files
03:12 < entity_> Anyone know anything about that?
03:13 < Juggie> entity_, unfortunatally no, but i do know where you can get free dns hosting
03:13 < pixel8> i do.
03:13 < Juggie> which i've been using for like 2-3 years
03:13 < Juggie> and its quite good
03:13 < pixel8> i just im'd my buddy who runs everydns.net
03:13 < Juggie> www.everydns.net
03:13 < pixel8> haha.
03:13 < Juggie> bingo :P
03:13 < pixel8> i use them.
03:13 < pixel8> just added a bunch of records..
03:13 < RatOHome> OT: I'd like to help transcribe in scanner4 for a while, but I can only speak in this channel ("cannot send to channel" elsewhere)
03:13 < pixel8> fixing up my mail stuff now.
03:14 <@X15> RatOHome: #nola-intel-help
03:14 < entity_> Well, we have dedicated servers in atlanta. We've turned one into a DNS server, but can't get the zone files.
03:14 < RatOHome> X15: thanks
03:15 < entity_> EveryDNS would need the zone files as well.
03:15 < Juggie> entity_, privmsg interdictor politely, and ask can he possibly help, dont be impatient
03:15 < pixel8> ya.
03:15 < entity_> But I will look into that, maybe they have a different approach.
03:15 < Ruthless2545> you can't (usually) just grab zone files..
03:15 < ellenm_> Is the server configured not to do a zone transfer (for "security reasons)?
03:15 < H202> you don't need to transfer the zones, just enter the same info
03:15 < cmdr_will> thats my thought
03:15 < H202> don't bother interdictor, please
03:15 < entity_> I imagine that its configured for security, yes
03:15 < entity_> And I wouldn't bother interdictor about this, I'd imagine its not his field
03:16 < pixel8> i just im'd david at everydns.net and caught him up.
03:16 < pixel8> hes' out..but he'll call when he get's back in.
03:16 < insane|> ok, wms wont work... but i have a vlc streamingsserver up & running...
03:16 < insane|> who can tell me the source ipŽs...
03:16 < insane|> where i can relay from
03:16 < entity_> I will look into everydns.net.
03:16 <@X15> mms://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf
03:17 < H202> second directnic DNS is now at national net, so DNS will work even if they go offline
03:17 <@X15> That's the, as far as i know, ONLY level 1 mirror
03:17 < insane|> X15 from there?
03:17 < Juggie> H202, i said that.
03:17 < cmdr_will> who would i talk to to see if any mirrors are needed
03:17 <@X15> That's what you get unless you have really, really big pipes
03:17 <@X15> Me
03:17 < Tyger> That mirror has been pretty rock solid
03:17 < Tyger> No rebuffering or disconnects for me at all
03:17 < insane|> X15 kk 100mbit isnt really big, but better than nothing ;)
03:17 <@X15> Yah, and there support rocks
03:17 < entity_> That's good to hear, H202.
03:18 < entity_> And I sincerely appreciate everyone's help.
03:18 < Juggie> entity_, cross your fingers for fuel tomorow morning
03:18 < entity_> .. and not calling me a jerk like they did on the other channels for asking!
03:18 < Juggie> and you'll stay up no problem
03:18 < entity_> Absolutely.
03:18 < Juggie> if the desiel keeps flowing, everything will remain kosher
03:19 < entity_> Even if it doesn't, it'll still fall to a backup, I'm hoping.
03:19 <@X15> Mike is back at this desk!
03:19 <@X15> Those that want to mirror for now you can eighter mirror the video and post it ont he wiki or mirror the images
03:20 < Juggie> entity_, dns will definitally be fine
03:20 < Juggie> that i can without asking anyone guarantee
03:20 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o logan|] by ChanServ
03:20 < Juggie> i dont know these guys, but they obviously arnt newbs :)
03:20 < pixel8> is there some mail forwarding wierdness going on?
03:20 < Juggie> i would hope also they've taken care of mail by setting up secondary MX entries to collect mail
03:20 < Juggie> and i'm sure they have
03:21 < entity_> Just in case, it seems I may be wrong about pulling zonefiles. Perhaps I can set these up on directDNS
03:21 < pixel8> i've seen an outtage for any domains that use directnic mail forwarding..so i'm moving off their dns servers.
03:21 < entity_> Erhm, everydns
03:21 < entity_> Pixel, are you moving to everydns?:
03:22 < pixel8> entity_ most of my domains use dns servers at everydns.net
03:22 < entity_> Already. I see.
03:22 < pixel8> only 4 or 5 use the dns at directnic.
03:22 < insane|> is the stream working for anyone atm?
03:22 < pixel8> ya.
03:22 < insane|> aah
03:22 < pixel8> insane| ya
03:22 < pixel8> hat.
03:22 < insane|> yep see it ;)
03:22 < insane|> that looks...
03:23 < insane|> scary
03:23 < insane|> bathmonster
03:23 < insane|> unshaved
03:23 < entity_> Anything I can do to not have to transfer, to get addt'l backups in place, is great.
03:23 < entity_> :)
03:23 < entity_> I want to continue to support directNIC
03:23 < pixel8> ya. me too.
03:23 < pixel8> i'll just move them to see if the mail que clears out.
03:24 < insane|> btw i created a "tinyurl" for the stream... better to remember... u can use http://tinyurl.com/cbsat, too
03:24 < insane|> instead of the fucking long url
03:25 < entity_> Everyone, thanks for all your help. I'm going to go get some work done.
03:25 < entity_> Be well!
03:25 < pixel8> be well edgar freindly.
03:31 < cmdr_will> u guys need any mirroring?
03:31 < insane|> anyone here already setup an video mirror using vlc?
03:31 < icculus> I can't get it to work at all
03:32 < icculus> I hope someone else is having more luck than I am
03:32 < insane|> fuckin around with this shit atm...
03:32 <@X15> There were alot of people messing with VLC earlier, conclusion: It's rather buggy
03:32 < insane|> i dont think its buggy... seems just to be a lil bit errm... strange? to configure
03:32 < insane|> iŽll figure out...
03:32 < insane|> after another beer
03:32 < icculus> I agree with X15, but I'll add hyperbole
03:32 < icculus> It's total shit.
03:33 < icculus> Every minute you spend on it is not only time wasted, but one less minute you'll get to enjoy life.
03:33 < icculus> It's just that bad.
03:33 < insane|> weŽll see :)
03:34 -!- Plaid is now known as Plaid|Bed
03:34 < icculus> oh, shit, I take it back, I just got it to work
03:35 < icculus> all you have to do is run your fucking mouth in an IRC channel, apparently.  :)
03:35 < icculus> put that in the faq!
03:35 < insane|> errm... oke tell me how ;)
03:35 < icculus> and there's mike loading a handgun on the camera
03:36 < icculus> vlc -4 -v mms://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf -I rc --sout '#std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=nola-intel.icculus.org:8080}'
03:36 < insane|> hmm ok than its reachable through ip:8080 ?
03:36 < icculus> I'm watching it on Windows Media Player via http://nola-intel.icculus.org:8080/
03:37 < insane|> kk ... lets take up a european mirror
03:37 < icculus> I was kinda hoping to drop the quality on the stream to save bandwidth, but screw it, it's literally been 12 hours I've been fighting with this now.
03:37 < insane|> ehh :)
03:38 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
03:44 < miamigo> sawp?
03:44 < Wohali> The most useful thing folks can do is mirror some of the audio and video streams
03:45 < Wohali> if you do mirror them, please /msg me so i can add them to our wiki
03:45 <@logan|> are any of the audio streams full?
03:45 < Mike_> how much data transfer would be involved (in gigs)?
03:45 <@logan|> mine aren't anywhere near it
03:45 < miamigo> where are some audio streams at?
03:45 < miamigo> i thought there was no audi
03:46 <@logan|> miamigo: the audio streams are scanner feeds.
03:46 < miamigo> police scanner?
03:46 <@logan|> yeah
03:46 <@logan|> Mike_: quite a bit, 32kbps per listener
03:46 <@logan|> well, little in terms of shoutcast hosting
03:47 < miamigo> i got about 130gb/month
03:47 < miamigo> i could donate
03:47 < MatthewAT> wohali: i've had a video mirror going all day at mms://no-stream.fwl.oregonstate.edu/no
03:47 < Mike_> I could probably push 1 TB if needed
03:48 < Wohali> Presently nac.net has donated to us >10Gb of bandwidth; folks within 1-2 orders of magnitude would be most appreciated
03:48 < Wohali> if you can, please go ahead and star tmirroring some of the feeds
03:48 < Wohali> if you do set up a feed, just /msg me
03:49 < miamigo> Wohali: can you point me to the audio feed?
03:49 < miamigo> if its a audio stream how can i mirror it?
03:49 < miamigo> id like to try and mirror something that can be used if they go offline
03:50 < Wohali> Audio feeds are on http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=Radio_Info
03:50 < Wohali> If you set up a mirror PLEASE PM me, I will lose your URL here (matthewAT)
03:50 < bootnet2> wohali...is there faq somewhere for mirroring video feeds using wms?
03:51 < icculus> bootnet2: Unix or Windows?
03:51 < bootnet2> win2k3
03:51  * icculus can't help  :)
03:51 < Wohali> http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
03:51 < icculus> Wohali: do you have access to that faq? The vlc command line could use updating
03:52 < MatthewAT> wohali: PM not working :-(
03:52 < Mike_> talking with my DC to see if any resources can be donated
03:52 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
03:53 < Wohali> icculus: Please PM me with the update
03:53 < Wohali> matthewAT: I see your PMs.  You may need to REGISTER with nickserv to be able ot see PMs here
03:53 < Wohali> matthewat: Or email me at joant@ieee.org
03:54 < Philocipher> If you all need some short term storage on a relatively fast connection, i have a terabyte or so
03:54 <@logan|> icculus: what codecs do I need to compile into vlc to support that command you pasted?
03:54 < Bluelive> any of the video feeds working ?
03:54 < ChrisBradley> Is anyone here also talking in interdictor?
03:54 < Wohali> logan: please op me here?
03:55 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o Wohali] by logan|
03:55 <@Wohali> ty
03:55 < miamigo>  ChrisBradley: you cant right now it's gagged
03:55 < miamigo> u have to be voiced or opped to speak
03:55 < miamigo> this is the purpose of voicing somebody
03:55 < ChrisBradley> Is it possible to get voiced there?
03:55 < miamigo> umm
03:55 < slvrRose> they'll ungag in a minute
03:55 < miamigo> probably not
03:56 < slvrRose> just giving interdictor a chance to be ready to respond to questions and stuff, I gather
03:56 < Philocipher> Is this channel moderated as well?
03:56 < icculus> logan|: none, it just passes the data through
03:57 < slvrRose> doesn't seem to be moderated
03:57 <@logan|> icculus: it's not working for me :(
03:59 < jokeruk> i've got about 3mbit i can donate - where would it be best used? audio or video?
03:59 < insane|> so guys... another stream is online... http://62.141.43.73:8080 , not very good for US ppl... but should provide good streaming service to european ppl
04:00 < insane|> is there any place where the stream infos etc get added?
04:01 < Herschel> insane|: yeah, on the wiki
04:01 < insane|> kk
04:01 < Herschel> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=Radio_Info
04:02 < insane|> its video ;)
04:02 < icculus> insane|: PM Wohali with the link
04:02 <@Wohali> yes, please, if you have another mirror please /msg me privately with it, I will add it
04:07 < bootnet2> what is the stream address that should be mirrored?
04:10 < MatthewAT> only stream ive found working is on advection.net
04:10 < MatthewAT> other ones seem to be down
04:11 <@X15> All streams are to mirror advection, and on that note i'm off for the night folks, have fun, keep up the good work and pray to the FSM for Diesel!
04:12 < bootnet2> matthew ... whats the url for avection's stream?
04:12 < MatthewAT> http://wss-vip.adv.xc.advection.net/event/adv/evt20050902/new_orlean/0250?ext=.asf
04:13 < bootnet2> thanks :)
04:13 < MatthewAT> on the interdictor livejournal page
04:13 < bootnet2> ahhh...was looking on the video faq
04:13 < imc-occam> moin
04:13 < imc-occam> Eimann: op please
04:14 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o imc-occam] by Eimann
04:15 <@Eimann> hi occam
04:16 < Fobax> new image mirror: http://katrina.nexopia.com/katrina/index.html
04:17 < icculus> Are all the video mirrors just pulling off advection's feed?
04:17 < icculus> should we be pulling from elsewhere?
04:17 <@Eimann> mms://66.29.54.248/wmtencoder/no.wmv - it seems that it is working.
04:18 <@X15> advection and posibly the feed Eimann just setup are the only one pulling off the cam its self
04:18 < MatthewAT> x15 said all mirrors should pull off advection, so I repointed mine
04:18 <@X15> So use them
04:18 <@X15> Matt: what were you pulling from?
04:18 < MatthewAT> advection
04:18 <@X15> and previously?
04:18 < MatthewAT> the space.net one
04:19 < MatthewAT> until it went down
04:19 <@X15> that's Eimanns
04:19 <@Eimann> We've actually only 100 Connection slots, because i didn't receive a new licencefile from realmedia yet
04:19 < MatthewAT> :-)
04:19 < miamigo> can somebody paste all the audio feeds?
04:19 < miamigo> or direct me to a link?
04:19 <@X15> Ok, monitor off, prarys to FSM for Diesel complete, good night, check the wiki
04:20 <@Eimann> MatthewAT: We've to change the portnumber on the space.net stream, but actually i can't reach the person who is maintaining the box
04:20 <@Eimann> gn8 X15
04:20 < insane|> rello eimann ;) german kollega :P
04:20 < MatthewAT> so is the word to stay at advection?
04:21 <@Eimann> hi insane|
04:21 <@Eimann> MatthewAT: if advection is working, use that one
04:23 <@Eimann> i'll try now to transcode it in mp4 with this realmedia server here
04:27 < zeeklancer> Hey all.
04:27 < xenonite> hi all
04:27 < miamigo> hola
04:27 < miamigo> guys
04:27 < zeeklancer> I am not sure if I am in the right place.
04:27 < zeeklancer> Are you guys moving some data to a data center, and then expecting some drives to be moved to some other servers ?
04:27 < insane|> tell us what u expected?
04:28 < zeeklancer> This channle is related to direct nic right ?
04:28 < MANWICH> guys i can't get my podcasts and i'm trapped in a room with my dead roomate and the odor is making me physically ill
04:29 < cmdr_will> ?
04:29 <+cfm> Manwich, you've already been banned from one channel...
04:29 -!- Crispy` is now known as Cris[lee]py
04:29 < MANWICH> i still don't know why
04:29 < MANWICH> i'm not kidding
04:29 <@Eimann> zeeklancer: don't know if the directnic guys are going to move their data/servers to another datacenter
04:29 < MANWICH> luckily i had a household honda generator
04:29 < zeeklancer> You just said you were trapped in a room with your dead room mate.
04:29 < cmdr_will> MANWICH - where are you located
04:30 < MANWICH> heart of french quarter
04:30 < cmdr_will> how do u have inet access?
04:30 < MANWICH> i have slow as shit satellite :(
04:30 < foobar---> looks more like wallingford.pa
04:30 < {dm}> Man, you still have power?
04:30 < MANWICH> generator
04:31 < MANWICH> little honda jobby
04:31 < cmdr_will> hm
04:31 < MatthewAT> manwich: your IP resolves to comcast
04:31 < insane|> they got hamsater... lots of
04:31 < MANWICH> comcast?
04:31 < insane|> and hamsterwheels
04:31 < MANWICH> wtf
04:31 < insane|> hamsters even
04:31 < MANWICH> oh my IP resolves to comcast
04:32 < cmdr_will> why would u hae a gen if u liven in no
04:32 < jeronim``> insane|: not funny
04:32 < MANWICH> i connect through a shell hosted in pennsylvania
04:32 <+cfm> Pen state, no less
04:32 < jeronim``> I can't believe someone would make a joke about this kind of thing
04:32 < cmdr_will> yeah manwich is pissing me off.....
04:32 < jeronim``> I was talking about insane|
04:32 < MANWICH> I'm using an agricate
04:32 < jeronim``> HURR MAYBE HIS COMPUTER IS POWERED BY HAMSTERS LOL
04:32 < {dm}> po10-ar01.wallingford.pa.panjde.comcast.net so far in traceroute ... pa it seems
04:32 < insane|> jeronim`` that wasnt thought as juke...
04:32 < insane|> joke
04:32 < MANWICH> Who is maeking joek
04:32 < jeronim``> insane| is
04:32 < MANWICH> this not funny to me
04:33 < Ruthless2545> fwiw, cam mirror now running @ http://209.7.140.9/New_Orleans.asx
04:33 < insane|> u understand what irony is?
04:33 < icculus> jeronim``: actually, that's a little funny.
04:33 < cmdr_will> ruthless2545-what do i have to do to host a mirror
04:33 < insane|> power wont fall off the sky... so the only thing are generators which produce power
04:33 < cmdr_will> i got a deti server
04:34 < insane|> but ok, maybe this is the wrong time for discussions like this
04:34 < insane|> nevermind
04:34 < jeronim``> yeah srsly
04:34 < MatthewAT> cmdr_will: what os?
04:34 < Ruthless2545> I just set it up using the advection.net feed, couldn't get much info.. but thought I might be able to help
04:34 < MANWICH> yuo guys are srsly being cocks.....can someone at least tell me how to neutralize the smell of a dead body so i can sleep
04:34 < icculus> Is there an admin in here to kick people?
04:35 < MANWICH> i'm not joking
04:35 < MANWICH> god wtf
04:35 < MANWICH> THIS IS NOT A JOK!
04:35 <@Eimann> icculus: sure, but let hear what he will tell us
04:36 <@Eimann> icculus: don'T know how i can help him, but we could try it.
04:36 < icculus> Did anyone figure out how to coerce the right mimetype out of vlc yet?
04:36 < icculus> I'm digging in the source code.
04:36 < MANWICH> i feel like i'm going ot be sick
04:36 < MANWICH> there has to be something i can dol...i'm not going to take the body out of hte room
04:36 <@Eimann> icculus: vlc -v http://64.124.159.242/no --sout-http-mime video/x-ms-asf --sout '#std{access=http,mux=asf,url=83.243.0.9:8080"' is working for me
04:37 < cmdr_will> what kind of place u got manwich
04:37 < icculus> Eimann: thanks
04:37 < jeronim``> MANWICH: how come, is the rest of the place flooded or something?
04:37 < MANWICH> yes, and i'm not touchign a body ok
04:37 < cmdr_will> how did he die?
04:37 < MANWICH> it's a studio apartment i'm sharing with a roomie so it's kinda tight
04:37 < jeronim``> oic
04:38 < MANWICH> he was electrocuted
04:38 < MANWICH> that's why i keep mentioning the smell
04:38 < ellenm_> And your power is still on to permit you to be here.  I see.
04:38 <@Eimann> MANWICH: Can u ventilate the room or so to get this smell out? I haven't had dead bodies in the same room with me
04:38 < MatthewAT> not to mention the comcast "satellite" uplink
04:38 < MANWICH> ellenm: it's called a generator ok i've mentioned it 4 times
04:38 < zeeklancer> MANWICH: how are you trapped in the room ?
04:39 < MANWICH> anyways guys my roomate masturbates a lot and apparently he was electrocuted right as he was climaxing...burnt semen smells terrible
04:39 <@Eimann> MatthewAT: He got a shell-box for ircing and a generator. what didn't u understand?
04:40 < MANWICH> i'm dead serious
04:40 < MatthewAT> the part where he said he was on a satellite connection, though his IP resolves to comcast in PA
04:40 < MANWICH> please don't kick me because i'm serious
04:40 < icculus> oh man, can we get rid of this guy now?
04:40 < insane|> for me it sounds like crap... sorry
04:40 <@Eimann> MatthewAT: sure, he's connected via ssh/telnet to that shell-box
04:40 < MANWICH> great, thanks, kick the guy stuck in the middle of this shit
04:40 < jeronim``> I'm not sure what to think
04:41 < jeronim``> I mean, it all adds up
04:41 < jeronim``> having a generator and a shell is plausible
04:41 < {dm}> Manwich, at a certain point there is not much you can do for a dead body.  The best thing would be to wrap your roommate in ceran wrap.
04:41 < jeronim``> saran
04:41 < jeronim``> but yeah
04:42 < MANWICH> dm: i really don't want to touch it :(
04:42 < bootnet2> icculus ... you talking about the end of file error?
04:42 < {dm}> Its going to smell.  All you can do is slow that down some.
04:42 < MANWICH> it's touching it that freaks me out
04:42 < icculus> bootnet2: I'm just saying the mimetype comes up as application/octet-stream
04:42 < MANWICH> his eyes are still open
04:42 < MANWICH> and he's naked
04:42 < icculus> So that might be confusing mplayer
04:42 < insane|> and if it starts to smell... you wont get that out of your roomes for long time...
04:42 < bootnet2> ohhhh...yeah, in firefox i had that too
04:42 < insane|> thats really ugly
04:42 < bootnet2> testing with IE now
04:42 < MANWICH> and he's got this disgusting toy
04:43 < MANWICH> oh god i can't look at it
04:43 < icculus>  /ignore
04:43 < MANWICH> insane: i don't ever want to come back here
04:43 < simonl> was the toy connected to the generator?
04:43 < MANWICH> once i'm out of here i'm out
04:43 < insane|> oke...
04:43 < MANWICH> simonl: i was making a reference to a toy of another kind, but since you're forcing me to i'll tell you it's a vibrator
04:43 < insane|> MANWICH i dont really believe your story, u cant proof it to anyone
04:44 < bootnet2> the error I am getting is "reached the end of the file"
04:44 < simonl> indeed
04:44 < MANWICH> i think you mean "prove", but what do i know, i'm just an english teacher at NOHS
04:44 < icculus> I can't believe we're seriously having this conversation
04:44 < bootnet2> which I saw from other mirrors
04:44 < insane|> MANWICH excuse me... english is not my native language...
04:44 < bootnet2> anyone that believes manwich can have my box seats in the superdome
04:44 < JD-AU> the nerve of some people
04:44 < insane|> first language... whatever
04:45 < MANWICH> i'm a little stressed out ok
04:45 < MANWICH> i'm sorry
04:45 < insane|> but i dont think that this is funny...
04:45 < MANWICH> what's funny
04:45 < insane|> ./ignore...
04:45 < MANWICH> it's not everyday you catch your roomate masturbating, dead, with a dildo up his butthole
04:46 <+cfm> And electrocuted at the same time, right?
04:46 < MANWICH> amazingly
04:46 < MANWICH> the odds of that have to be like getting struck by lightening and hit by a train at the same time
04:46 < MANWICH> except with a dildo and a bathtub
04:46 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com/
04:46 < insane|> u must be a richt teacher... using a satellite uplink...
04:46 <+cfm> Indeed.  Where did you say you were again?
04:47 < MANWICH> insane since when are satellite providers expensive?
04:47 < insane|> how does it come that u have access to?
04:47 <@Eimann> insane|: satphone aren't so expensive, i'm using inmarsat sometimes.
04:47 < insane|> downstream isnt... but upstream equipment is expensive
04:47 < MANWICH> i pay a satellite isp $60/month for 3mb down but only 12kbps up
04:47 < phat-t> i heard on the news sat phones not working in NOLA - is that true? sounds like crap
04:47 < insane|> i thought on a parabol antenna eimann
04:48 <@Eimann> insane|: ah, ok
04:48 < insane|> dont know if the satphones are working for data connections
04:48 <@Eimann> phat-t: it isn't true, i think
04:48 <@Eimann> insane|: they are working with data connections
04:48 <+cfm> Why does your connection resolve to Pen state?
04:48 < MatthewAT> ok, we can solve this pretty easily. manwich: whats your boxe's IP
04:49 < phat-t> who's got them? also, nothing much on ARRL site - are hams inside the city?
04:49 < H202> MANWICH: standby, police is going to a location of your computer and they will rescue you.
04:49 < MANWICH> wow technology has come so far
04:49 <@Eimann> H202: You're talking crap ...
04:49 < MANWICH> matthew i connec through a shell located in pennsylvania
04:49 <@Eimann> cfm: Because he got shell-access to a server located there to use and irc-client
04:49 < MatthewAT> right
04:49 < MatthewAT> and whats you satellite-given IP
04:50 < MANWICH> how do i find that out
04:50 <+cfm> Eimann - I want to confirm it...
04:50 < MatthewAT> what OS
04:50 < MANWICH> i'm not good with computars my roomate usually takes care of htat
04:50 < H202> open http://www.whatismyip.com
04:50 < MANWICH> i think it's windows
04:50 <+cfm> Manwich: You are using a UNIX shell account, right?
04:50 < phat-t> anyone know about hams operating out of NOLA?
04:50 < MANWICH> it has butans across the bottom
04:50 < Ruthless2545> lol
04:50 < MANWICH> i'm in a window that loks liek a comand promp
04:51 < MANWICH> my roomate was the comuter geek i'm not good with them
04:51 <@Eimann> MANWICH: if it's a windows windows, ype ipconfig there
04:51 <+cfm> If you're using windows, what's this about a shell account?
04:51 <@Eimann> aeh, a windows commandprompt
04:51 < H202> you are one of rare non-computer types that can ssh, handle shell accounts and use irc
04:51 < icculus> I can't believe you guys are still humoring this clown.
04:51 < MANWICH> h202 it's not my coputer
04:51 < H202> but don't worry, police will find you
04:51 < MANWICH> i hope so soon
04:52 <+cfm> Manwich, respond, what's this about a shell account?
04:52 < MANWICH> they're certainly taking their time
04:52 < MANWICH> cfm i don't know my roomate tried to explain it to me once
04:52 < H202> MANWICH: anyway, how is the weather in Romania?
04:52 < MANWICH> but now he's dead with a vibrator in his butthole and i don't even want to think about it
04:52 < MANWICH> h202: where is romania and i can look it up on weather.com :)
04:53 < phat-t> ahhhh this is why i stopped using IRC in 1993
04:53 < MatthewAT> lol
04:53 < MatthewAT> you too?
04:53 < phat-t> signal:noise is ------->
04:53 < H202> MANWICH: well, play with vibrator while you are still alive
04:53 < MANWICH> it's still in there i'm not touching him
04:53 < {dm}> Phat: ircii w/ phoenix.  them where the times.
04:53 < phat-t> could someone humor me with some insighs about the situation in new orleanas/
04:53 <@Eimann> MANWICH: Tell me your Satphone ip, visit www.whatsmyipaddress.com
04:53 < H202> MANWICH: you can take it out without tuching him
04:54 < MANWICH> ok eimann 'm going
04:54 < MANWICH> h202: i'm not going near it there's flies
04:54 < phat-t> are there any communications up? are there hams operating? do teh cops seem to have their wits back?
04:54 < MatthewAT> actually, it's http://www.whatismyip.com/
04:55 <@Eimann> arghs, ok, thanks MatthewAT
04:55 <+cfm> Manwich, you are lying.  You explain your Pen state IP as a "shell account" but do not exhibit any ability to use it.
04:55 < H202> MANWICH: ok, you were reported to abuse. have fun.
04:55 <@Eimann> MANWICH: Correction, insted of www.whatsmyipaddress.com use http://www.whatismyip.com/
04:55 <@imc-occam> http://nola.blagblagblag.org/  picture mirror updated
04:56 < MANWICH> ok eimann i'm working on it
04:56 <@Eimann> ok
04:57 < MANWICH> h202 i am worried because i live in romania?
04:57 < MANWICH> 67.129.68.9
04:57 < MANWICH> what is that
04:57 <@Eimann> mom please
04:57 < MatthewAT> well, unless ive lost my touch with ARIN, qwest
04:58 < simonl> qwest abq
04:58 < simonl> alberq...
04:58  * simonl can't spell
04:58 < MatthewAT> NM?
04:58 <@Eimann> He's using Satphone Dialup.
04:58 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o Pavix] by ChanServ
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05:01 -!- Irssi: #interdictor-tech: Total of 271 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 3 voices, 250 normal]
05:01 <@Pavix> :P
05:02 <@Eimann> .oO( hm, i should register the channel first, after i joined it. some other did it. :/)
05:02 -!- Irssi: Join to #interdictor-tech was synced in 80 secs
05:03 < TRUNKLOCK> hey was there just some idiot in here
05:03 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+b *!*n=Buh@69.136.218.*] by Pavix
05:03 -!- TRUNKLOCK was kicked from #interdictor-tech by Pavix [EARTH is 98% full. There's been a vote and you've been deleted]
05:04 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+b *!*@69.136.218.*] by ZOP
05:04 < MatthewAT> does the man not know how IPs work?
05:04 <@ZOP> no prolly not
05:04 <@ZOP> prolly thot he was being smart by changing identname and trying again
05:04 <@Pavix> IP is what I do when I get drunk
05:04 <@ZOP> we're in the works for doing global banlists
05:04 <@ZOP> for now though heh.
05:04 < MatthewAT> maybe he should try a different shell
05:05  * cfm_ pokes his ghost connection
05:05 <@Pavix> Or maybe he should realize that his time might be more productively spent chewing on live grenades
05:05 <@Pavix> either/or
05:06 < scrozzle> wooden grenades give you splinters
05:06 < icculus> I'm trying to grasp the concept of people trolling in relation to natural disasters.
05:06 < jeronim``> People will try to troll in relation to anything that gets a response
05:06 < icculus> I was listening to Jerry Springer's radio show the day after Katrina hit, and he's talking about all the suffering going on, and some tool calls him up and pranks him.
05:06 < icculus> I'm like...what the fuck is wrong with you people?
05:07 < scrozzle> one time i called a woman i didn't know, randomly picked from the phonebook, and had a conversation with her
05:07 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o mathx] by ChanServ
05:08 < icculus> scrozzle: that's just a John Cusack vehicle waiting to happen.
05:08 < scrozzle> i'm a John Cusack vehicle. He rides me to church.
05:09 < jeronim``> Giggity giggity?
05:09 < scrozzle> Are you swedish?
05:09 < jeronim``> No, I'm a wooden-toothed brit
05:09 < scrozzle> pixplz
05:09 <@Eimann> hehe:
05:09 <@Eimann> 23:40 :: Eimann [i=eimann@linoa.etherkiller.de] has joined #interdictor-tech
05:09 <@Eimann> 23:40 :: ServerMode/#interdictor-tech [+ns] by calvino.freenode.net
05:09 <@Eimann> 23:40 :: Irssi: #interdictor-tech: Total of 1 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 normal]
05:09 <@Eimann> and now: 11:07:37 :: rssi: #interdictor-tech Total of 274 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 3 voices, 253 normal]
05:09 <@Eimann> nice ;)
05:09 < scrozzle> k
05:14 < icculus> holy shit
05:14 < icculus> I think I fixed this
05:15 <@ZOP> ok whats the command to get that info Eimann
05:16 <@ZOP> my fogged out brain can't remember
05:16 <@Eimann>  /names
05:16 <@ZOP> ahh
05:16 <@ZOP> ty
05:17 < cfm_> Eimann: I count as two at the moment ;)
05:18 <@Eimann> hehe ;)
05:19 < icculus> ok, I rule
05:19 -!- MatthewAT is now known as matthewat
05:19 < icculus> You have to patch vlc to get it to stream with the right mimetype
05:19 < icculus> But once you do it works with mplayer
05:20 <@Eimann> icculus: What version? 0.8.2 is running fine
05:21 < icculus> Eimann: 0.8.2 here
05:21 < icculus> Eimann: the command line you gave me didn't work
05:21 < icculus> Eimann: might just be bad luck
05:21 <@Eimann> Hm, here it works, strange. it's working with mplayer too
05:21 < icculus> but you're pushing it through the "http" access module, I'm pushing it through the "mmsh" one.
05:21 <@Eimann> ah
05:22 <@Eimann> mmsh doesn't work
05:22 < icculus> Works here.  :)
05:22 <@Eimann> hehe ;)
05:22 < icculus> It worked with Windows Media Player with the wrong mimetype, but mplayer doesn't know what to do with it.
05:22 <@Eimann> ack
05:23 < icculus> http://treefort.icculus.org/interdictor/vlc-asf-mimetype.patch  <-- in case anyone needs that.
05:24 < Teez> [Any idea why when I try to open the stream it starts trying to download an mp3? It worked about 2 hours ago, it just launched windows media player]
05:24 < icculus> Teez: which stream?
05:25 < Teez> http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema
05:25 < cfm_> Teez: It's doing that for me as well
05:25 < icculus> I thought that was radio broadcasts
05:25 < Teez> Actually, any stream 2 server
05:25 < Teez> Is doing it
05:26 < cfm_> Someone's broken the mime type?
05:27 <@logan|> Teez: does it do it with http://stfunoob.com/s.pls
05:27 < icculus> ok, I'm sleeping for now
05:27 < Teez> Nope
05:27 < icculus> have fun, everyone
05:27 < Teez> Because its a .pls file, it opens directly in winamp :)
05:27 <@logan|> heh
05:28 < Teez> Didnt know of that link, thanks
05:28 <@logan|> no problem
05:28 < cfm_> Argh, losing connection lost me my voice, so now I can't change nicks ;)
05:28 < icculus> leave the channel and change your nick
05:28  * icculus had that problem this morning, too
05:28 < Teez> Just out of curiousity, why does the baton rouge stream have 2 channels? [I dont know anything about scanners and such]
05:29 < Teez> Is there somewhere I can read about the technicalities, its interesting to say the least :P
05:29 <@logan|> different talkgroups on each channel
05:31 < Teez> Well, I noticed that, I was just curious about the tech angle of it, I never even knew there *was* stuff like this online
05:35 <@Eimann> Hm, Germany -> Houston, 690 USD. outward flight on 08.09.05, return on 29.09.05.
05:35 <@imc-occam> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1087205
05:35 < JD-AU> night all, talk to you all later
05:35 <@imc-occam> "At the Superdome, we have a report that one shot was fired at a Chinook helicopter," Schneider said, adding that the Chinook is "an extremely large aircraft."
05:35 <@imc-occam> Laura Brown, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Washington, said she had no such report.
05:35 <@imc-occam> "We're controlling every single aircraft in that airspace and none of them reported being fired on," she said, adding that the FAA was in contact with the military as well as civilian aircraft.
05:44 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog - You here?
05:45 < Pollywog> yeah , constructing a sentence :)
05:45 < ChrisBradley> Cool
05:45 < Pollywog> I like to donate a piece of my server for public use...any ideas for New Orleans ? guestbook / condolances / help forms ?
05:45 < Teez> Whats "FO" on scanners?
05:45 < Pollywog> forward ?...
05:46 < ChrisBradley> We could mirror http://katrina.ncpink.com there
05:46 < Teez> [Not transcription, the guy actually said "FO"] haha
05:46 < Pollywog> how do you mean mirror ?...
05:46 < Pollywog> whats your idea ?
05:47 < ChrisBradley> Copy the site and host it
05:47 < ChrisBradley> I've been working on it for 2 days
05:47 < ChrisBradley> It doesn't seem like much - but it is fast links
05:47 < Pollywog> so all I do is make a redirective ?
05:48 < ChrisBradley> You could do that if you want - I have 25,000,000 in bandwidth on Yahoo until I pay the bill today
05:49 < Pollywog> hmm I doubt my pc can handle that...
05:49 < ChrisBradley> No - I mean my site already has that
05:49 < ChrisBradley> Right now I am receiving only about 1800 hits a month
05:50 < Pollywog> oh ... :) ... ok
05:50 < Teez> If you use *NIX just wget --mirror it
05:50 < Teez> And host that copy
05:50 < ChrisBradley> Thanks teez
05:50 < Pollywog> no unix on this machine...
05:50 < Teez> Ahh..
05:50 < ChrisBradley> What OS Pollywog?
05:51 < Teez> Hold on
05:51 < Teez> I have wget for win32 somewhere... if your on windows
05:51 < Teez> http://users.ugent.be/~bpuype/wget/
05:51 < Pollywog> im running xp pro , apche2 , php 5 , mysql 4.1.14
05:52 < Pollywog> my unix machines are not online
05:52 < Teez> Alright, if you want to PM me I can guide you through a basic setup, if your interested of course
05:52 < ChrisBradley> Cool
05:52 < Teez> Or I can just do it here, for the benifit of everyone :P
05:52 < Pollywog> :)
05:52 < Teez> Just let me know
05:52 < ChrisBradley> :)
05:52 < Pollywog> here... for publics sake
05:53 < Teez> Assuming your mirroring http://katrina.ncpink.com
05:53 < Pollywog> listen ,... let me go first...
05:53 < Teez> Alright..
05:54 < Pollywog> you know anything about php ?
05:54 < Teez> Yep.
05:54 < Pollywog> ok
05:55 < Pollywog> having a mirror .... does it effect my php thing ?
05:55 < Teez> Nope.
05:55 < Pollywog> ok,... shoot.
05:55 < Teez> PHP is just a parser (It runs independently)
05:55 < Pollywog> tell me what to do ...
05:55 < Teez> Alright
05:56 < Teez> 1 sec
05:56 < Pollywog> k
05:56 < Teez> Firstly, you can download http://users.ugent.be/~bpuype/cgi-bin/fetch.pl?dl=wget/wget.exe to your desktop (or whatever the server is)
05:57 < Pollywog> ok,... doing it...
05:57 < Pollywog> hmmm,... you speak dutch ?
05:57 < Teez> Nope, sorry :(
05:57 < Pollywog> ok,... its a belgium thing ?...
05:57 <@logan|> icculus: still around?
05:58 < Teez> Nah, thats just where the site is hosted.
05:58 < Pollywog> anyway ,.. looking now in my folder for that file....
05:58 < Teez> Alright.
05:58 < Teez> (Just put it on desktop, or an easily accessable location)
05:59 <@Eimann> afk, i'll take a shower now
05:59 < Pollywog> done
05:59 < Teez> Alright
05:59 < Teez> Now go to start, run, type cmd
05:59 < Pollywog> done
05:59 < Teez> type cd Desktop
05:59 < Teez> (assuming its on your desktop)
05:59 <@logan|> Anyone know if VLC's httpd will allow a concurrent connection limit?
06:00 < Pollywog> um no ,.. first c:\ \
06:00 < Pollywog> never mkind
06:00 < Teez> Just change directory to whereever the file is
06:00 < Teez> (If your lost, let me know)
06:01 < Pollywog> done
06:01 < Teez> alright
06:01 < Pollywog> hehe lost :)
06:01 < Teez> Now you can just type
06:01 < Teez> wget http://katrina.ncpink.com --mirror
06:01 < Teez> and that'll download all the files that are linked on that site
06:01 < Pollywog> may I paste inhere ?...
06:01 < Teez> Paste what?
06:02 < Pollywog> --12:00:56--  http://katrina.ncpink.com/
06:02 < Pollywog>            => `katrina.ncpink.com/index.html'
06:02 < Pollywog> Resolving katrina.ncpink.com... 68.142.234.36, 68.142.234.37, 68.142.234.38, ...
06:02 < Pollywog> Connecting to katrina.ncpink.com|68.142.234.36|:80... connected.
06:02 < Pollywog> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
06:02 < Pollywog> Length: 4,220 (4.1K) [text/html]
06:02 < Pollywog> 100%[====================================>] 4,220         --.--K/s
06:02 < Pollywog> 12:00:57 (36.19 KB/s) - `katrina.ncpink.com/index.html' saved [4220/4220]
06:02 < Pollywog> FINISHED --12:00:57--
06:02 < Pollywog> Downloaded:  bytes in 1 files
06:02 < Teez> hmm, haha
06:02 < ChrisBradley> Thank you Pollywod
06:02 < Teez> Yeah
06:02 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog
06:02 <@Eimann> user wget -rmnp http://katrina.ncpink.com/ - ;-)
06:03 <@Eimann> to mirror the whole site
06:03 < Teez> Doesnt that site have only one page anyway? LOL
06:03 <@Eimann> or is it only one page?
06:03 < Teez> I think its only one page, so that was pointless
06:03 < ChrisBradley> It is only one page
06:03 < Teez> I just looked
06:03 < Pollywog> so ,.. tell me ... what did I just do :)
06:03 < Teez> You downloaded the sites page (its only page, apparently) to whatever folder wget.exe is in
06:04 < ChrisBradley> You just backed up my site
06:04 < Teez> (in a folder named katrina.ncpink.com)
06:04 < Pollywog> ok now I asume I make that my www root ?
06:04 < Teez> What you can do now, is just copy the file in there into your webserver's directory, or into a folder named /katrina/ in your webserver root
06:04 < Teez> That would work too...
06:06 < ChrisBradley> Teez - If I update the site - Will the changes apply across the mirror?
06:06 < Teez> Sadly, you can only (easily) set that up on cron on *NIX
06:06 < Teez> or wincron (complicated to setup)
06:06 < Teez> So no, not the way its currently setup
06:07 < Teez> But its still semi-effective
06:07 < Pollywog> http://212.129.191.222/
06:07 < ChrisBradley> Well - at least someone else has a backup
06:07 < Teez> Cool, it works.
06:07 < Pollywog> i have some stupid domain name ... not relevant for a 'red cross' page...
06:08 < Pollywog> so I have to do it with my ip ...:(
06:08 < Teez> Well, thats ok, it still works at least :)
06:08 < ChrisBradley> Get another domain
06:09 < ChrisBradley> Or You can use mine if it will let you
06:09 < Pollywog> and for only this page ... wasn't  just coping your index.html code enough ? ... :)
06:09 < Teez> Yeah, I didnt know it was only one page ;x
06:09 < Pollywog> hehe
06:09 < Teez> But at least thats helpful in the future
06:09 < Teez> You know how to mirror sites now :P
06:09 < Pollywog> :)
06:10 < Pollywog> another day , another nickle
06:10 < Teez> And chris, how did you setup the katrina.ncpink.com site?
06:10 < Teez> (The subdomain)
06:10 < ChrisBradley> I've been collecting data from various IRC sites
06:10 < Teez> I mean the site
06:10 < Teez> Not the content
06:10 < Teez> (The domain katrina.ncpink.com)
06:10 < ChrisBradley> Oh - Its on Yahoo business
06:10 < ChrisBradley> A subdomain
06:11 <@Wohali> [The wiki has been updated:  http://wiki.nola-intel.org/]
06:11 < Teez> Ahh
06:11 < Teez> I was going to say you could point something like katrina2.ncpink.com at 212.129.191.222
06:11 < Teez> I dont think you can with yahoo tho :-\
06:11 < Teez> I wouldent know though, never used it.
06:11 < Pollywog> wget...nice...
06:12 < ChrisBradley> Well, I could try this - Hang on
06:13 < Pollywog> hey ,... your not gonna bust anything here huh ?...
06:13 < Teez> huh?
06:13 < Teez> I didnt understand that at all
06:13 < Teez> haha
06:18 < ChrisBradley> http://www.noisecontrolpub.com/
06:18 < ChrisBradley> You can use this for now
06:18 < ChrisBradley> This one is also listed all over yahoo and google
06:19 < ChrisBradley> Welcome to Noisecontrol Publishing INK
06:19 < ChrisBradley> Free Publishing
06:20 < ChrisBradley> Still there pollywog?
06:21 < Pollywog> chris:in the meta tag is a template ....
06:21 < Pollywog> yes im here ... checking your code...
06:21 < ChrisBradley> You can scrap the template
06:21 < Pollywog> <META NAME="Template" CONTENT="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\html.dot">
06:21 < ChrisBradley> Yeah - Get rid of it
06:21 < Pollywog> hehe ... ok ...
06:21 < ChrisBradley> The site has been totally revamped since I used word
06:22 < ChrisBradley> Do you have a Yahoo IM pollywog
06:22 < Pollywog> hehe ... you said yahoo...
06:22 < Pollywog> um,.. no.
06:23 < ChrisBradley> Any IM? I have trillian
06:23 < ChrisBradley> Would like to stay in touch
06:23 < Pollywog> whats an IM ?... instant message ?  or wha ?
06:23 < ChrisBradley> Instant messaging software
06:23 < Pollywog> well ,.. what I did was this ...
06:24 < Pollywog> I changed my index.php in _index.php so apache takes your index.html first
06:24 < Pollywog> my _index.php is still working ....
06:24 < ChrisBradley> Cool
06:24 < Pollywog> http://212.129.191.222/_index.php
06:27 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog - I don't know how to use this link to your server
06:27 < ChrisBradley> I have limited exp. with servers
06:27 < ChrisBradley> I do have linux running on the other side
06:27 < Pollywog> say wha ?
06:27 < ChrisBradley> I've been sticking on the windows side for streaming media though
06:27 < Pollywog> limited what ?
06:28 < ChrisBradley> I am running a dualboot linux/win2k pc
06:28 < Pollywog> ok
06:30 < Pollywog> anyway ... to stay in touch ...?
06:35 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog - Just e-mail the webmaster
06:45 <@Eimann> re
06:53 < ledder_> has somebody set up mirrors for interdictor blog & nola-wiki etc. sites? if they go out of fuel soon
06:54 < ledder_> it allso might be a good idea to set up an url catcher -> html page to #interdictor-digest
06:57 <@logan|> ledder_: I'll add urllog to there in a little bit here.
07:02 <@logan|> .die restart
07:26 < cfm_> Everyone seen the extra Google Maps button?
07:26 < cfm_> Now if you go to the New Orleans area, you can switch to satellite photography from Wednesday.
07:29 < RenesisX> Yeah, that's great.
08:18 <@Eimann> TCP: drop open request from 140.139.35.250/2207
08:18 <@Eimann> printk: 3225 messages suppressed.
08:18 <@Eimann> TCP: drop open request from 140.139.35.250/2911
08:18 <@Eimann> printk: 2797 messages suppressed.
08:18 <@Eimann> TCP: drop open request from 198.169.4.6/53941
08:18 <@Eimann> yeaha. much traffic ;)
08:22 < silent_guardian> hey peoples... I have a few web servers on slow connections out of american jurisdiction
08:36 < ledder_> somebody just mirror the blog before they go out of fuel
08:37 < silent_guardian> the blof is fine
08:37 < silent_guardian> LJ is hosted remotely
08:37 < ledder_> oh ok
08:38 < silent_guardian> unless they are the provider for LJ
08:38 < silent_guardian> in which case
08:38 < silent_guardian> I need to
08:38 < ledder_> logan|: what's up with the url log for #interdictor-digest?
08:38 < ledder_> i already took mirror but i have no proper webspace
08:39 < jgrafton> LJ is hosted in seattle/portland or something
08:39 < ledder_> ok
08:39 < jgrafton> can't remember if they've moved to ca yet
08:39 < jgrafton> but no where near NO
08:40 < silent_guardian> ok
08:40 < silent_guardian> if you can send me the mirror
08:41 < silent_guardian> I can get it hosted
08:48 < ChrisBradley> Good morning
08:48 < ChrisBradley> http://www.noisecontrolpub.com
08:48 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog and I built this
08:49 < ChrisBradley> http://katrina.ncpink.com now links here
08:49 < ChrisBradley> silent_guardian - We need a domain name that is better
08:50 < ChrisBradley> And site submission in all major search engines
08:50 < ChrisBradley> We have submitted to Yahoo and Google but they are extremely slow on the uptake
08:51 < silent_guardian> I have access to two .com.aus
08:52 < silent_guardian> which will give high rankings on australian google
08:54 < silent_guardian> ok. Does anyone want me to mirror the transriptions?
08:57 < ChrisBradley> Cool
08:57 < ChrisBradley> Sorry - preoccupied with #katrina news for a moment
08:57 < ChrisBradley> Australian google sounds cool
08:58 < silent_guardian> alright
08:59 < silent_guardian> what do I need to do?
09:00 < ChrisBradley> You know how to mirror right?
09:00 < ChrisBradley> Mirror http://www.noisecontrolpub.com to your .com
09:01 < silent_guardian> ok
09:01 < ChrisBradley> I can get the exact ip if you need it
09:01 < silent_guardian> zip the web files for me
09:01 < silent_guardian> I'll give you the FTP details
09:02 < silent_guardian> ok, you want a subdomain or you want to comandeer my whole domain?
09:04 < ChrisBradley> Theres only 1 file
09:04 < ChrisBradley> its the index at http://www.noisecontrolpub.com
09:04 < ChrisBradley> All we need is a redirect from your domain to the site
09:04 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog should be here in a sec
09:05 < silent_guardian> that won't rank well on google
09:05 < silent_guardian> but sure, I can do that
09:05 < ChrisBradley> cool
09:05 < ChrisBradley> Hang on - I'll strip the source
09:06 < silent_guardian> what I'll do
09:06 < silent_guardian> is put a google adsense ad on there
09:06 < silent_guardian> which means that I will get a high priorty
09:07 < silent_guardian> because it will index me for ad content
09:07 < Pollywog> hey wait man,...
09:07 < silent_guardian> then I can ditch the ad
09:07 < Pollywog> its running on PHP and MySQL,..it aint only html no more
09:08 < silent_guardian> aah, ok
09:08 < ChrisBradley> Cool
09:08 < ChrisBradley> I don't know much about those
09:08 < ChrisBradley> Glad I could hold the torch this long
09:08 < Pollywog> :)
09:09 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog - Thanks for all the help...
09:09 < Pollywog> :)
09:10 < ChrisBradley> silent_guardian - you got the new .com link yet?
09:10 < silent_guardian> pollywog - do you need redundant servers/web dev help?
09:10 < silent_guardian> you want a redirect?
09:10 < ChrisBradley> I'll town crier it as soon as its up
09:10 < silent_guardian> or a frame?
09:10 < ChrisBradley> We should get the official REDCROSS banner on the site
09:11 < ChrisBradley> I will start doing research
09:11 < Pollywog> have that chris...
09:11 < KuDeTa> still no mirror url?
09:11 < KuDeTa> damn
09:11 < Pollywog> silent:im no pro.
09:12 < Pollywog> i was just thinking lets support something.
09:12 < silent_guardian> *nod*
09:12 < silent_guardian> I will get my mirror up
09:15 < ChrisBradley> I will call the red cross as soon as my phone is free
09:16 < ChrisBradley> Thanks Pollywog
09:17 < silent_guardian> what is the data infastructure like?
09:17 < silent_guardian> in OC3?
09:17 < silent_guardian> *NO
09:17 < silent_guardian> sorry
09:18 < silent_guardian> I have OC3 on the mind
09:25 < ChrisBradley> Pollywog - You rock
09:26 < ChrisBradley> I just saw the redcross logo
09:30 < Mrdini> huh? no stream yet?
09:30 < ChrisBradley> silent_guardian - what's news?
09:31 < MstkSeance> http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/yahooPlayer.pl just figured id post that again if anyone doesnt have it, WWLTV live feed
09:31 < cuervo> MstkSeance: http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/yahooPlayer.pl
09:32 < galaad2> that yahoo player pl is just an envelope for the real contents: http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1377931&segment=152389
09:32 < cuervo> galaad2: http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1377931&segment=152389
09:32 < cuervo> hrm. forgot I had that on.
09:32 < cuervo> want auto-tinyurl off, or should I leave it?
09:32 < galaad2> that an url for media player
09:33 < galaad2> dunno how tiny url would behave in media player
09:33 < cuervo> hurk, crap. it's broken, anyway. :-)
09:33 < Mrdini> er, that's not a stream from the webcam
09:34 < galaad2> no, its from TV
09:34 < Mrdini> so is there a stream from the webcam, or....?
09:34 < galaad2> can't watch it.. it supposed to work for some people tho
09:34 < galaad2> i cant see it though
09:35 < Mrdini> galaad, works for me (Mac WMP)
09:35 < ChrisBradley> I am watching
09:36 < galaad2> Mrdini, i'm in eastern europe on a cable modem capped by the crap isp at 256 kbit/sec
09:36 < galaad2> even the tv feed is only 1 fps at best :(
09:36 < Mrdini> galaad, heh ouch, that bites
09:37 < mansolini> Does anyone know something about CD\DVD problems device while using Ubuntu Live CD??
09:40 < FreeFrag> If you're worrying about your data cap at all (anything under 2tb/mn at least), it's too small   <--Well there goes my server, unless you really need a server in Brisbane, Australia...
09:41 < inter291> what is the status on DirectNic's DNS servers?  Redundant anywhere else but NO?
09:46 < kobold_> they're mirrored at nationalnet someone said earlier
09:47 < silent_guardian> I have a server in Brisbane, Australia
09:47 < cuervo> thar be fuel here.
09:47 < silent_guardian> FreeFrag: I have a .com.au also
09:48 < FreeFrag> silent_guardian, with a big data cap?
09:49 < silent_guardian> OC3 FUELED!
09:49 < silent_guardian> craphouse link. I have 256kbps up.
09:49 < silent_guardian> I have another 1Mb up
09:49 < silent_guardian> and I might be able to muster another few Mb
09:50 < silent_guardian> it will give us higher australian google rank
09:50 < FreeFrag> Oh.....ugbox has 100Mbps, but a small (well, under 2tb/month!!) cap
09:50 < silent_guardian> oooh, ok...
09:51 < Spec8472> has anyone approached another hosting co (eg: Server Beach, offering cheap-ass boxes w/ 2tb/month) - I'm sure you could rustle up donations, if it was coordinated/approved by the DirectNIC folks...
09:52 < ChrisBradley> silent_guardian - whats the URL
09:55 < silent_guardian> http://nola.dominium.com.au
09:55 < cuervo> silent_guardian: http://tinyurl.com/7q42j
09:55 < silent_guardian> http://nola.neural.com.au
09:55 < cuervo> silent_guardian: http://tinyurl.com/barjn
09:56 < KuDeTa> are any of the feeds fopr video working at all?
09:56 < KuDeTa> or did it get turned off
09:56 < SlamTilt> Working but very busy
09:57 < silent_guardian> why don't we approach server breach
09:57 < silent_guardian> and ask them to donate a dedicated?
09:57 < silent_guardian> we could try sagonet?
09:58 < silent_guardian> ask directnic to forward it
09:58 < silent_guardian> then again
09:58 < silent_guardian> directnic have that OC3 up
09:59 < silent_guardian> what we need to do
09:59 < silent_guardian> is conglomerate a list
09:59 < silent_guardian> of all these feeds
10:03 < ChrisBradley> silent_guardian - I lost that URL - my browser crashed
10:04 < KuDeTa> what we need is the feed url for the mirror
10:05 < inter291> Has anything been said from DirectNic how much of their servers are redundant outside NO?  DNS is being mirrored in FL and GA.
10:11 <@Eimann> The people from nac.net are already donating
10:12 <@Eimann> inter291: afaik is only dns redundant to outside
10:13 < silent_guardian> nice.
10:13 < silent_guardian> anyone need web development?
10:15 < danbri_> is anyone working to log these channels directly into the Web?
10:15 <@PhiRatE> Not to my knowlege. There are a few people with logs of the things tho.
10:16 < silent_guardian> is there a script to do it?
10:16  * PhiRatE has no idea
10:16 < silent_guardian> I can host it straight on
10:17 <@PhiRatE> have a look around google, might be worth it, although there's so much going through this place at the moment I'm not sure it'd be all that useful except as an archival thing later
10:18 < jo-mangee> hey does anyone have a link to the irc logs?
10:18 < jo-mangee> (save me searching)
10:18 < abuser> whats goin on?
10:18 <@PhiRatE> I don't know if there are online IRC logs.
10:18 <@NACAlex> so tired.
10:19  * jo-mangee reads and realises someone already asked that.
10:19 < jo-mangee> I visited them earlier.. but can't find it now.
10:21 < SlamTilt> http://nola.heavycomputing.ca/ - irc Logs
10:21 < cuervo> SlamTilt: http://tinyurl.com/cq62c
10:22 <@PhiRatE> Slam: thanks, added link to faq
10:22 < silent_guardian> damnit. Asshole spammers.
10:22 < jo-mangee> yeah.. found them now ;) http://www.carolinacomputingsolutions.com/nola/ too
10:22 < cuervo> jo-mangee: http://tinyurl.com/ccvpa
10:22 < abuser> someone was asking for more mirroring / dedicated server earlier - did that get taken  care of?
10:22 < SlamTilt> PhiRate - You do know about http://wiki.nola-intel.org ?
10:23 < cuervo> SlamTilt: http://tinyurl.com/92hvv
10:23 <@PhiRatE> Slam: yep :)
10:23 < F-geek> the heavycomputing one is more recent
10:23 < F-geek> downside is some of the logs give permission denied
10:23 <@PhiRatE> sorry, at the time I started the faq the wiki was being crushed :)
10:24 < SlamTilt> PhiRate >  Ah .....
10:27 < ChrisBradley> http://tinyurl.com/do64b
10:27 < cuervo> ChrisBradley: http://tinyurl.com/cepv8
10:27  * jo-mangee is away: sleepin'
10:27 < Spec8472> Slamtilt: is that logs page yours? if so - can you run the output of "tail --lines=20" into a script? (to get the last 20 lines) - and get a cron-job to regen it every minute? - that way it's easy to see the latest, without having to read a 3.5M file (and chew your b/w too)
10:28 <@PhiRatE> can people runnign tinyurl scripts at least modify them so they don't tinyurl anything that isn't really long? :)
10:28 < ChrisBradley> cuervo - It says error
10:28 < SlamTilt> Spec > Not mine I'm afraid.
10:28 < Spec8472> oh, k :/
10:28 < F-geek> lol
10:29 < Spec8472> My host has a specific no-IRC rule, else I'd set something like that up...
10:29 < silent_guardian> I have a shell server
10:29 < silent_guardian> if someone wants to host on that
10:29 < abuser> I'm willing to dedicate a server
10:34 < silent_guardian> ok
10:34 < silent_guardian> I am setting up a script
10:34 < silent_guardian> and a cron
10:34 < ratman2> I have a IRCD
10:35 < silent_guardian> what channels should I log?
10:35 < ratman2> who needs one?
10:36 < Spec8472> silent_guardian: probably just the digest ... without the join/part/quit stuff in it :)
10:40 < silent_guardian> nice
10:40 < silent_guardian> I can do that
10:40 < silent_guardian> having problems with bitchx
10:40 < silent_guardian> stupid dependancies
10:40 < silent_guardian> there is something about the noobish simplicity of mirc
10:40 < silent_guardian> that makes me feel at home
10:41 < Spec8472> hehe... the guy with the other logs is using irssi if that makes it any easier...
10:42 < silent_guardian> alright
10:43 < silent_guardian> I'll have a look
10:43 < silent_guardian> I have no experience with command line mirc
10:43 < silent_guardian> last 20 lines?
10:43 < silent_guardian> or last 100 lines?
10:43 < Spec8472> 20 lines is probably enough - can still link to the full log if people want/need it...
10:45 < silent_guardian> true
10:45 < silent_guardian> now to get apache working on this machine
10:45 < Spec8472> heh
10:46 < ChrisBradley> http://www.noisecontrolpub.com/ - Any Searches pulling this one up ?
10:46 < silent_guardian> they won't
10:46 < silent_guardian> you  need content on the actual page
10:46 < silent_guardian> for it to search
10:46 < silent_guardian> google won't index a redirect
10:48 < Spec8472> ChrisBradley: it's got a pagerank of 4/10 in my firefox google toolbar...  but it doesn't show up for any link-to's on google itself. It'll probably take days.
10:49 < ChrisBradley> Cool spec
10:49 < ChrisBradley> Pass the word along ok?
10:56 < silent_guardian_> ok
10:56 < silent_guardian_> I am putting up some logging on this machine
10:57 < silent_guardian_> anytone know the command for irssi to set logging?
10:57 < silent_guardian_> that would be really handy
10:58 < Spec8472> http://irssi.org/?page=docs&doc=startup-HOWTO#c8
10:58 < silent_guardian> nice
10:58 < silent_guardian> thanks
10:58 < fugoo> scanner3 is down
10:58 < fugoo> 10:57 AM: Pelican_Jo: [are we down?]
10:59 < fugoo> 10:57 AM:     basti_: [yep]
10:59 < silent_guardian_> who
10:59 < Spec8472> silent_guardian: also this: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php?title=IRC  -- " In text-based clients such as ircii, irssi, bitchx, etc, `/ignore -channel #CHANNELNAME * PARTS JOINS QUITS`"
11:00 < ChrisBradley> http://tinyurl.com/do64b
11:00 < silent_guardian> damnit.
11:01 < silent_guardian> this is messed :/
11:01 < silent_guardian_> ls
11:01 < silent_guardian> oops
11:01 < silent_guardian> my bad
11:01 < silent_guardian> awesome
11:01 < silent_guardian> its ignoring
11:01 < silent_guardian> now all I have to do is get it to log
11:03 < uidzero> http://katrina.moose.to and #katrina.moose.to
11:03 < uidzero> <-- out
11:03 < danbri_> OK talking to Edd Dumbill re setting up a link bot, (a) is this good thing to do, (b) which channel to run it in? where are ppl sharing most urls?
11:03 < danbri_> it takes urls + comments, makes a web site  + newsfeed
11:04 < Spec8472> danbri_: digest is usually pretty good. that's kinda what silent_guardian is doing now...
11:04 < danbri_> ah ok, was talking to bkdelong, got impression wasn't such a tool yet
11:06 < danbri_> http://swig.xmlhack.com/2005/09/01/2005-09-01.html is an example of the pages made by this tool, fwiw.
11:06  * jo-mangee is playing around with nice pretty maps of traceroutes on http://mesh.net.nz/tr.php using directnics 204.251.10.43 - interesting to see how the world is connected to the saga.
11:08 < silent_guardian> sorry peoples
11:09 < Jsmith01> morning all
11:09 < Spec8472> silent_guardian: didn't realise you were a fellow aussie :)
11:09 <@Nac-SirParadox> What's going on
11:11 < silent_guardian> hehe, yeah, I am
11:12 < silent_guardian> I wish we were a bit closer..
11:12 < silent_guardian> If I had the money then I'd go over and give them a hand
11:12 <@PhiRatE> even people nearby can't help out
11:12 < silent_guardian> that'st true...
11:12 <@PhiRatE> once you send in the army, they don't trust anyone else :)
11:12 <@NACAlex> um
11:12 -!- mode/#interdictor-tech [+o doofoo] by PhiRatE
11:12 <@NACAlex> it is our entire gov't that doesn't trust us citizens
11:12 <@NACAlex> not limited to the military
11:13 <@PhiRatE> point :)
11:13  * PhiRatE is from NZ, we don't have an army
11:13 < peercas1> is there anyway we can help with the cam stream.. we have a p2p streaming client www.peercast.org
11:13 <@NACAlex> peer
11:13 <@NACAlex> the video broadcast is of questionable use, imho, and if no fuel is delivered, going dead in a couple hours.
11:14 < silent_guardian> fuel has been delivered
11:14 <@NACAlex> to telcove?
11:14 < silent_guardian> 1000 gallons to directnic
11:14 <@NACAlex> blog was not updated
11:14 < silent_guardian> and 500 to telcove
11:14 <@NACAlex> ok, thats good. about another 10 to 20 hours then
11:14 < silent_guardian> yeah
11:14 < silent_guardian> bit more than that
11:14 < silent_guardian> 500 gallons is a lot of fuel
11:14 < silent_guardian> at this point
11:14 < silent_guardian> I'd be calling intelsat
11:15 < Mrdini> out of idle  interest, how long does Cummins "rate" these generators for (i.e. how long on paper CAN they run non-stop?)
11:15 < silent_guardian> yeah... I'd be interested to know
11:15 < silent_guardian> I think its the integrity of the generators that we have to worry about more
11:15 <@NACAlex> gensets will run for a long time if properly maintained
11:16 <@NACAlex> if properly maintained, it should run for many 100's of hours without any maint at all
11:16 < silent_guardian> true
11:16 <@NACAlex> and can run for thousands if maint is done while running
11:16 <@NACAlex> on pretty much all of them, filters and fluids can be changed while they run
11:16 < Mrdini> huh... you CAN do maintainence whilst those generators are running? nice
11:16 < Spec8472> peercas1: how do you use that? some sort of quick guide would be great for that... like step 1 = click here, etc...
11:16 <@NACAlex> as a pointer, a 1 megawatt genset consumes about 70 gallons/hr at full load.
11:16 < silent_guardian> shit.
11:16 < silent_guardian> thats nuts
11:17 < silent_guardian> but they're