Log opened Thu Sep 01 20:05:19 2005
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zn-	how much bandwith are you using?
zn-	just for the site?
CompWizrd	say, the street that the camera is looking down.. isn't that a 4 way stop now because of the lights being out?
CompWizrd	i haven't seen anyone actually _stop_ yet
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douglas_carmicha	what is 'AKO'?
douglas_carmicha	'fast packing to their AKO'
zn-	how much bandwith are you using for the site/mirror?
@hfx_ben	hey douglas
douglas_carmicha	hey..
douglas_carmicha	how are you?
@hfx_ben	zn- you might want to drag folk here from #int ... easily the quietest channel
douglas_carmicha	hfx_ben>do you know what 'AKO' is?
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@hfx_ben	in context? without, no ... but US acros differ from CDN
zn-	I was going to offer a mirror but nevermind
zn-	I got multiple colod machines
@hfx_ben	man, he just gave a frequency ...
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@hfx_ben	zn- It's the camera that's the biggest snag.
@hfx_ben	meh
douglas_carmicha	'fast packing to their AKO'...
@hfx_ben	SARES 80MTR net has been activated http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive ... it will improve steadily as sun sets
Exstatica	Well like i said in a icq message i run a NOC in los angeles, and if you need some dedicated servers let me know you can find me here or on efnet
@hfx_ben	Ex: would you perhaps tack that up in the wiki?
Exstatica	sure
@hfx_ben	http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page
@hfx_ben	You know how it is ... for the loss of a packet the message was lost.
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Exstatica	what should i put it under?
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@hfx_ben	dunno ... maybe the scrap page huh
foot|away	hmm is there a priority list for mirrors? ie winmedia reflectors, shoutcast reflectors, photos?
@hfx_ben	http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump
@hfx_ben	refactor / don't discard
grunchley	Grunchley.com is available to add an FTP account if needed to host photos and files, can also set up a subdomain or mirror if needed.  E-mail me at grunchley@grunchley.com or call my cellular at (808) 345-1644 if there's anything I can do.
@hfx_ben	grunch? would you post that to http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump too?
grunchley	Will do.
@hfx_ben	ummm ... you might not want to post your phone# ... and munge your email addy
@hfx_ben	same old same-old
@hfx_ben	tu folks
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hoks	how can i ignore join/part message with mirc ?
@hfx_ben	hoks:
@hfx_ben	Otions
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@hfx_ben	IRC
@hfx_ben	check boxes
djm	how IS the data being moved from NO to the net without power?
@hfx_ben	Events
CompWizrd	generator
djm	oh thats what the oils about
djm	i see
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20:32	hfx_ben	thinks diff versions of mIRC slightly different
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comppimp	yup
CompWizrd	djm: something like 20 gallons an hour of diesel, on a 750kw generator
djm	ah
@hfx_ben	sorry PM is failing:
@hfx_ben	fligtar see http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/About_nola-intel.org
CompWizrd	lot more vehicle traffic tonight than yesterday
londarr	how many gallons does a 750kw generator's tank usually hold
CompWizrd	good to see that emergency crews are moving around
CompWizrd	londarr; well, they were getting 1300-1500 gallons delivered earlier today
douglas_carmicha	do we need a generator tech?
londarr	ahh ok
CompWizrd	in barrels and then into the tank
londarr	Compwizrd; thanks
CompWizrd	it's a massive generator, far larger than any home generator
londarr	yah i bet
CompWizrd	you could run a hundred homes off this thing, if everyoen didn't cook at once or turn the ac on
theagent	I was CIO for a well known cable network and we had a generator and fuel tank that was enormous
CompWizrd	i visited a place in kentucy that had a generator and tank about the size of a semi-truck(the tractor part)
CompWizrd	and they had contracts with three different places for a month of fuel
CompWizrd	and they were just a small place
bitcop	londarr: it all depends on the size of the tanks they have. Tanks are a seperate component of a gen set installation.  The old DC I ran had 10 1.5Mw gens and 7 2Mw gens.  The 1.5's had 2000gal belly tanks, the 2Meg gens had 10k gall on belly tanks + a 15k gallon reserve tank
Exstatica	we actually have first priority in an emergency
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Exstatica	helicopter refill
londarr	wow, very interesting
bitcop	every installation is unique
CompWizrd	some smaller businesses can get away with a 5000 watt generator just for the computers.. which means you go siphon gas out of the company car when you get low :)
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@hfx_ben	I /cannot/ believe the comm problems ...
zotted	A quick look at the greater N.O. area using xastir shows not a single APRS (Automated Postion Reporting System) equipped unit of any kind indicating that even the hams are out of comission.
theagent	camera change... you guys going live inside?
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@hfx_ben	http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive is 80MTR SARES west gulf ... fabulous links
htoucles	hfx_ben: hey
htoucles	op me and michaelloftis
CompWizrd	oooh, motivational posters!
htoucles	Please
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macmouse	zotted: the online APRS status is linked over the internet
macmouse	they don't really relay between stations
macmouse	so its more likly that the home-based relays are down
michaelloftis	htoucles: i'm not oped :P
htoucles	I know
htoucles	He didn't listen
htoucles	hfx_ben: ping
@hfx_ben	heh ... back
@hfx_ben	sec PM
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zotted	macmouse:  Good point, since TCP/IP is how I am looking.
20:46	zotted	smacks forehead in shame...
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@hfx_ben	htoucles? I don't know you ... and I'm leaving in about 10 minutes ... do you know anyone else? Someone you can PM?
@hfx_ben	are you opped in any other channel?
htoucles	hfx_ben: I'm selcouth and josh
htoucles	Check the mask
htoucles	ALso michaelloftis needs op
htoucles	He is staff
20:49		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o htoucles] by hfx_ben
@hfx_ben	sorry ... been away from IRC too long
@htoucles	Is anyone in here opped in -tech?
@htoucles	It's ok
20:49		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o michaelloftis] by hfx_ben
@hfx_ben	your opped
douglas_carmicha	I'm worried about interdictor..
@htoucles	Er
douglas_carmicha	and his team..
douglas_carmicha	if it gets too bad (ie. fire)...
douglas_carmicha	can they get out?
@hfx_ben	htoucles, you know Nox_?
@michaelloftis	tnx hfx_ben :)
@htoucles	Yes
20:51		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o Nox_] by htoucles
20:51		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o mathx] by michaelloftis
@michaelloftis	me too sloooow
douglas_carmicha	A guy has offered MP3s if they want som emusic...
douglas_carmicha	some music.
douglas_carmicha	Will running a soundcard and audio amplifier overload the gen?
CompWizrd	http://media.ofdoom.com:8080/movies/katrina.tar.gz.torrent
CompWizrd	there's the bittorrent link
CompWizrd	for the sigmund.something pictures
douglas_carmicha	(I know they pull a fair amount of wattage.)
douglas_carmicha	And audio is nonessential.
macmouse	well, they said last night
notFeanor	if a laptop is available i don't think audio would pull a significant amount more, but only if they had unpowered speakers
macmouse	they are running at ~20%
macmouse	a laptop is going to be a drop-in-the-bucket for their generator
macmouse	somewhere they said it was like 500kw
douglas_carmicha	750kw..
douglas_carmicha	didn't know if they had aptops or desktops
douglas_carmicha	laptops
macmouse	ah ;p
macmouse	still, a normal desktop uses like
macmouse	300-400W
macmouse	its surprisingly low
CompWizrd	they were at 20% load, so 150,000 watts is being used for everything
macmouse	thats like, two light bulbs
CompWizrd	you need new light bulbs :)
comppimp	even a cheap set of powered speakers only use like 40watts or so
macmouse	CompWizrd: well, your then using compact floresants, which are different then light bulbs IMHAO
macmouse	certianly not incondesant
CompWizrd	60 watt bulbs are fairly common
CompWizrd	i do have a 13W circ-lite that is about as bright as a 60, in my room
CompWizrd	actually, my entire house is compact fluorescent, except for one or two
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foot|away	CF bulbs are great, once a year they go on major sale and can be had for like a dollar a piece
CompWizrd	yeah, and they last forever
macmouse	yeah
foot|away	its some government subsidy program to lower electricity use
macmouse	as long as your not using X10, or dimmer switches
CompWizrd	my parents house has a 60W circlite that's about 20 years old
macmouse	yeah
CompWizrd	macmouse: there's dimmable units now, i have a pair upstairs
foot|away	you really have to use the highest wattage though - theyre rather dim
foot|away	even so, its like 25w as opposed to 100
CompWizrd	yeah, i have two 23's outside for floodlights.. replaces about 200W of regular bulbs
CompWizrd	someone kick me in the nuts if this all is offtopic :)
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20:59	comppimp	kicks CompWizrd in the nuts
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douglas_carmicha	can they HEAR a small pair of speakers over the gen noise?
comppimp	the gen isnt in the same room
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CompWizrd	generator wouldn't be near the computers
comppimp	atleast i wouldnt think
Botunda	ok
CompWizrd	vibration alone would cause havok
foot|away	THe gen is likely a permanent fixture on the roof - probably sound insulated as well
CompWizrd	generally you'd have it in its own enclosure, vented and intake to the outdoors
foot|away	not necessarily - our gen is an actual locomotive engine and it's not that loud
@hfx_ben	botunda: my PM has been failing
McGrude	low rpm ?
@hfx_ben	I will be refactoring the "Info Dump" when I get back
CompWizrd	1800 rpm is normal, iirc
@hfx_ben	prolly 3 hours from now
@hfx_ben	I really gotta split
McGrude	that is pretty low rpm compared to the engines most people are familiar with
McGrude	take care hfx
Botunda	see ya bud
notFeanor	i think a zipa employee mentioned the generator on somethingawful before it had to be shut down
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@hfx_ben	ohhhhhhh you heard!
@hfx_ben	Well ... that's good huh huh
@hfx_ben	hang in there folk!
notFeanor	and said it was in a closed-off area in the parking level
CompWizrd	750kw for the whole building makes a lot more sense than 750kw for one or two levels
CompWizrd	or zipa has a lot of business :)
Botunda	What do I have to do to recieve IM from #interdictor?
notFeanor	i think they overspecced it a lot, if they can keep it at 20% capacity now
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Botunda	I asked for sources that people are pulling from but it seems that I'm not recieveing anything
notFeanor	or it was for the whole building and everyone else is gone
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foot|away	notFeanor: ding ding ding (probably)
foot|away	then again maybe they're just growth-minded
CompWizrd	well, with blade servers, you end up with a fair current draw per 42U rack
CompWizrd	4-5KW per rack isn't unheard of
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mith_	how do i send a PM on this server
mith_	i am trying to get to mathx to see what stream he is on
foot	youve got to register your nic first
mith_	thnx
mith_	got a url?
@mathx	mith_ whats iup
notFeanor	/msg nickserv help
@mathx	mith_ i seem to be on the same on as #-scanner
@mathx	what is -tech for? i think we're off topic.
notFeanor	well, the purpose of IRC is to be offtopic, and it doesn't seem to be interrupting anything
foot	is anyone else getting nothing but morse code on the scanner feed?
McGrude	negative foot
mith_	i was foot - seems to be good now
mith_	needed to reconnect
McGrude	All I hear is code
McGrude	ah thanks
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fitzzz	whats the url of the blog ?
foot	mith_: needed to reconnect: what are you listening to?  Im on the shotcast stream and am still getting the same crap
foot	http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
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mith_	what is the right channel on the feed
mith_	no one is transcribing it
@mathx	no they arent
@mathx	im trying to get an effort up to do so.
mith_	i can do it fora few
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mith_	let me kno
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kow^	4] <djbsquared> im gonna part in here guys, ping me if you need me
kow^	[18:54
kow^	ignore
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lostlogic	j #interdictor-relief
lostlogic	sorry.
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Tetraboy	Notice how slashdot copied the OC-4 typo.
Patr1ck	This just in, slashdot misreports. Pictures at 11.
Qwijib0	maybe they'll fix it in next week's repost ;)
CompWizrd	i see someone else picked up on the fact he said there were 5 people
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Qwijib0	my guess is that the people wanting to loot his building don
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Qwijib0	't reasd loashdot...
CompWizrd	or livejournal
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Qwijib0	now the new katrina pics at sigmund.biz have been /.  :(  even coral can't keep up.
Talon	How do you listen to the broadcasts?  Winamp doesn't seem to like connecting..
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Neit	Do you guys have a MMOG to play while you wait? :)
Qwijib0	I know the server was full earlier... haven't listned in a while.  Juse reading the transcript now
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trig_hm	I don't know what your plans are, but I have a datacenter and office in downtown dallas, if any of your people end up here and need anything let me know, I can probably hook em up with a workstation and can hook you guys up with my pres if you need dc space.
trig_hm	ipm.trig@gmail.com
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moonwick	hmm
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moonwick	I'm trying to mirror the scanner stream, but the source I Was using just dropped its max listener limit to 20
moonwick	so now it's pretty much impossible to connect.
moonwick	there a better source to pull from?
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Neit	I just found this on boingboing and it seems to let me in fine: http://stfunoob.com/nola/scanner.pls
CoolerQ	moonwick, I think we have enough mirrors of the scanner stream
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moonwick	well, lemme put it this way, I've been mirroring... I was handling ~150 people until a few minutes ago.
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CoolerQ	moonwick, ah, erm, I see... I just noticed that my icecast was dropped too
Talon	eh - does SBC block shoutcast/peercast ports?
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Tetraboy	I wonder how many, if any, wifi hotspots are still active in NO.
00:00		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o ZOP] by michaelloftis
trig_hm	this is probably out of bounds, but I host the organ procurement agency for LA, their application is up and running in my dc in dallas, but they are having serious issues finding workstation time in NO in order to input status and answer requests for organs. You guys know of anyplace that might have something available to help them?
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sent	hi.
sent	uh, i'm a client of DirectNIC, and i've got about 20 domains hosted on DirectNIC, and i was wondering how the power situation is
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Torg_	I heard DNS was moved already, and that they have plenty fuel, it's bandwidth that's the problem.
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sent	yeah, i noticed that there was only one upstream provider
sent	well
sent	i need to plan contigiencies if there is an outage with the domain hosting
trig_hm	sent: I am a sysadmin for a hosting company in dallas
sent	trig_hm: yes?
trig_hm	email me your needs, I'll see what we can work out ipm.trig@gmail.com
sent	i just use directnic as a registrar.
notFeanor	it seems that nobody from directnic is actually in this channel
trig_hm	I don't think they are
sent	i don't use them as a nameserver
notFeanor	DNS is backed up to atlanta
sent	just as a registrar
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moonwick	sent: if they're only your registrar, you'll be just fine even if they go offline
sent	moonwick: only for a few moments - DNS caches won't last
Torg_	Heh, the registrar stuff is in the root servers =)
trig_hm	yeah if your not actually hosting the domain in their facility you'll be fine.
sent	i thought the root servers check for updates on the registrar periodically
Torg_	Nope.
Torg_	Root servers know all.
sent	or vice versa
00:15		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o mathx] by selcouth
Torg_	They aren't called "root" for nothing =P
trig_hm	root servers are good to go without the registrar
moonwick	you won't be able to update nameserver records, but that should be all
sent	k
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sent	i've got other registrars regardless
sent	but i won't be leaving DirectNIC. :)
trig_hm	after their performance this week I might move my hosting there
Torg_	You'd better not after what these guys did and are doing =P
sent	i know.
trig_hm	and I work for a hosting company
sent	i'm duly impressed
@selcouth	What are they using to stream? As far as software goes?
sent	trig_hm: which hosting company are you with?
trig_hm	neospire.net
Torg_	Windows media encoder I think.
sent	trig_hm: ah. i've got three boxes at 800hosting
trig_hm	sent: too bad
sent	too bad?
trig_hm	I know the owner over there
sent	explain
sent	they've been good.. 250 day uptimes
trig_hm	I just used to work with the owner of 800hosting, not too much confidence in his technical abilities and dedication to his customers.
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sent	trig_hm: the owner doesn't operate the technical aspects of the business
sent	he has employees to do that for him
@selcouth	trig_hm: what does a typical Access Hosting package cost?
trig_hm	19.95
trig_hm	sent: there is just reasons I "used" to work with him and no longer do.
trig_hm	no big deal, if your happy with them great.
sent	trig_hm: it's a personal thing, i guess
trig_hm	yeah
sent	although i did have an issue with one of their night techs
sent	heh
@selcouth	trig_hm: monthly?
trig_hm	yeah
sent	but night techs are worthless
@selcouth	...
@selcouth	For what bandwidth?
trig_hm	selcouth: monthly == 19.95
sent	the APC power strip went bad
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sent	and my box rebooted
sent	and for some reason
@selcouth	For Access Colo?
sent	it lost its default route
trig_hm	selcouth: 20GB I think
trig_hm	not sure
@selcouth	Wow
sent	it took the tech, at 3AM in the morning, 6 hours to figure out that my box lost its default route, after i told him to check it.
@selcouth	Is Remote cheaper?
trig_hm	sent: sounds like bs, I have 237 of the same apc strips he uses and have never had one fail
sent	trig_hm: it was cycling power.. there was a transformer problem in the building
sent	and the strip would cycle all of the boxes on the same rack
sent	about 1x a day
sent	after the transformer issue was fixed
trig_hm	that's one of my issues, I have my own generator/ups systems/utility feeds, I don't depend on the building
sent	the transformer problem was corrected quickly
sent	but it probably damaged the power handling circuitry on the APC strip
CoolerQ	can anyone suggest stable sources for my mirror of the two scanners?
@mathx	keep this to technical discussions
@mathx	CoolerQ how many feeds?
@mathx	err clients
moonwick	I could use one, as well
@mathx	how many clients are these mirrors
@mathx	if they're not 500+ its almost not even worth our tracking them
moonwick	I was at 150 before I lost my feed
grunchley	There was a request earlier today for FTP access to a server for photo hosting, etc.  Is that still needed?
moonwick	peaked around 300 earlier
CoolerQ	mathx, I had 300 listeners as well
sent	haha
sent	that live cam feed
sent	how live is that
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@mathx	guys we need 500 ish or its really ahrd to track
@mathx	cuz our other mirrors can be jacked up by 1000 in a blink
@mathx	we have free nac.net bandwidth
@mathx	kinda amazing
sent	the live cam feed is pretty live, no?
sent	it's running pretty slow
moonwick	heh
davidc_	can't even connect here.
moonwick	I can do a 500 max
@mathx	hit the mirro
@mathx	moonwick: ask doofoo he's the scanner mirror master
@selcouth	trig_hm: so I can build my box and colo with access for $20/month for about 20gb?
@selcouth	Or does it have to be 1U?
CoolerQ	mathx, my client limit is set to 1500 and can be raised more
CoolerQ	mathx, it just hasn't been quite that popular so far
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moonwick	CoolerQ: what OS are you running?
CoolerQ	moonwick, linux
moonwick	ah
CoolerQ	you?
moonwick	dunno what (if anything) you need to do under linux to handle that kind of load, but I had to bump up the number of mbufs under freebsd
@mathx	CoolerQ: set to 500 and talk to doofoo
moonwick	so I figured I'd mention it
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foobar---	hm.
foobar---	still can't reach directnic from here. seems they still don't have a route back :(
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sent	any of you guys have a mirror of the kat pics?
sent	foobar---: international, probably not.
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foobar---	sent: well, i see their routes, but it seems they don't have one back ;)
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aztennenbaum	so what is an oc3?
toddmori	it is a fibre optic Data line, 45Mb/sec
cswanson	how are things in the NOC? Any problems with the generators running 24x7 ?
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Exstatica	actually it's 145megs
CompWizrd	t3 is 45
toddmori	heh, I just speak fibrechannel anyway
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Exstatica	ds3 is 45 megs
Exstatica	oc3 is 155mb :)
@mathx	145megs = oc3
@mathx	ish
@mathx	there's overhead
Exstatica	yeah
Exstatica	http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci212685,00.html
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aztennenbaum	you guys in NO?
toddmori	detroit.mi.us here
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OCA|	<-- Dallas
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Tetraboy	<- GA
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@selcouth	Dallas here as well
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roo9	anyone alive in here?
ghussey	yup
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01:30	OCA|	twitches
ghussey	i'm new though.
roo9	anyone alive in here?
ghussey	technically capable, though, and at your service.
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01:32	ghussey	wonders what in particular is going on
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DarkonOSU	Techy here, just hanging out. Working on my own unrelated stuff in Ohio.
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toddmori	same here, just up in michigan
ghussey	georgia here.
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OCA|	Are redundant logs of the scanner channels needed?
illuminarok	did they get any of the oc3s or oc4s up yet?
Tetraboy	GA here too, getting ready to go to bed.
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mayo	vancouver, bc
mayo	OCA|: if you feel like it .. that box should be fine for now, not sure how many people want to read 24+ and ongoing hours of backlogs
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Torg_	Brewtown, cheeseland.
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roo9	mayo: i would, what's the link?
Q_Continuum	any info sites/image dumps needing mirrors by chance, or risking going offline due to BW constraints?
mayo	roo9: oh sorry .. it was posted in the other chan .. http://oyam.ca/interdictor
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resistor	ditto what Q_Continuum said
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resistor	i have space and bandwidth to donate if someone needs it
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mayo	roo9: they're raw live with joins/quits/parts filtered out
Q_Continuum	I've got 10+GB space, and 190GB BW for the month that will go unused.
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ghussey	heh
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ghussey	190gb is going to go pretty fast with this many people
Q_Continuum	haven't switched the client's (tiny) sites over yet.
Q_Continuum	yeah
Q_Continuum	but every mirror helps :D
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Q_Continuum	plus, I can probably get that cap lifted.
Q_Continuum	friend of a friend of the owner.
Q_Continuum	so if needed, I can see what I can do.
mayo	i've got unlimited bw on that box, but it's not on it's own line, it's the last one that couldn't been moved to new colo we were moving to, so not sure how it'll hold up on the old line
[EPC]Starblazer	anyone send back the response from a couple of ppl from nanog?
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ptptechdalvarez	rm
ptptechdalvarez	hrm
ptptechdalvarez	what kind of mirroring are you looking for?
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mayo	ptptechdalvarez: i'm not really looking, but if people want to mirror, the better, will be easier to get to things
resistor	i don't have a lot, but i'm willing to give what i have: 4.8 GB space, 120 GB bandwidth.
ptptechdalvarez	I have plenty of space and bw as well ;) and i'm not capped
ptptechdalvarez	good routes too
ptptechdalvarez	http://stats.ptptech.com/
mayo	oh joy, rrd on that box is borked, can't even see the trafic graphs going up .. blah, where's the fun in that
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blanu	Hi all. I'm from ACTLab TV. We have an Internet2 mirror available for any videos from New Orleans. E-mail actlabtv@gmail.com.
Q_Continuum	notes to anyone in need of bandwidth:  If you need it, post how much space you're looking to tie up.  There are lots of us available, and most of us will probably pay attention in here.  OPS: please set a new topic if someone needs stuff mirrored, as it will be taken care of shortly :D
Q_Continuum	should cover the "need a mirror?" question.
resistor	heh
resistor	indeed
mayo	Q_Continuum: put it on the blog as well?
Q_Continuum	yeah, probably.
Q_Continuum	so that the question stops being asked, heh.  mention that until otherwise notified, bw/mirrors are fine, and then post before things hit their caps, so we can get the mirrors running quickly.
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illuminarok	what does outpost crystal mean
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Q_Continuum	name for the hosting facility, I think.
mayo	illuminarok: it's the name for the place were they're staying
Q_Continuum	nickname.
illuminarok	i see
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illuminarok	thank you
[EPC]Starblazer	wow, my G1 gallery doesn't like injesting the first set of photos
roo9	if you guys need it, i have a virtually unlimited account that I can host stuff on
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sent	heh
sent	who's in the webcam?
[EPC]Starblazer	isn't anyone translating the 2nd channel?
sent	-chat is a scrolling troll fest
mayo	front - mike, back - donny
sent	ceo and vp?
mayo	right - (can't see) is crystal
sent	crystal is mike's wife?
toddmori	fiancee
jon787	what is up with the first channel? I'm getting nothing
jon787	[EPC]Starblazer: channel 2 is getting transcribed in #interdictor-scanner2
roo9	there is  a lot of chatter on the 2nd cahnnel
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roo9	so, who are these guys on the webcam                      ?
directnic_rules	Just curious, what kind of storage do you guys use in your datacenter?
[EPC]Starblazer	oof
[EPC]Starblazer	okay
[EPC]Starblazer	my bad
mayo	roo9: the people who keep things running :)
sent	directnic_rules: floppy disks. lots of then.
jon787	[EPC]Starblazer: #-scanner might be doing 2 right now, cause 1 doesn't have anything on it
Q_Continuum	floppy disks? bah!  drums!
resistor	5 and a half inch floppies ;)
sent	directnic_rules: we have a 10,000,000 floppy disk raid 0 array.
mayo	roo9: mike = interdirector
roo9	directnic_rules: depends on what our customers want, we have people with highly redundant disks and others that use paper tape
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mayo	haha
resistor	and they read/write them by hand with a pair of magnets!
roo9	sent: is that RAID 0 or RAID 1?
Q_Continuum	8 inch floppies, done by hand with rock!
sent	raid 0, bish
directnic_rules	hehe.. just was curious the brand.. I work in storage
Q_Continuum	raid 0?  hope NONE of them die!
Q_Continuum	:D
jon787	they need to upgrade from RFC1149 to RFC2549 :)
mayo	floppy last long, right...  :)
01:58	jon787	ducks
mayo	s/floppy/floppies
SEWilco	Don't say "raid"!
roo9	sent: you know, 10m floppies is actually a considerable storage amount
mayo	is 2549 the pigeon one?
toddmori	directnic_rules: I am free now, but mainly HDS and IBM
roo9	ignoring the logistics of actually being the dude who swaps out the 1000000 floppies
jon787	mayo: with quality of service
jon787	1149 is the original pigeon one
directnic_rules	Cool.  any multi site / remote copy stuff for disaster recovery?
mayo	jon787: ahh i see, neato
roo9	anyone know what % of the fiber capacity in NOLA is still up at the moment?
ssavoie	1 0C3
02:00	Q_Continuum	is IBM GS's bitch right now, not enjoying it much
mayo	directnic_rules: they're backing stuff up offsite and got plenty local backups too, from what i heard
toddmori	DR: yeah, shadowimage and TruCopy, also some time in CNT extenders
roo9	ssavoie: just the 1?
ssavoie	last we heard
roo9	jeebus i feel for them
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notFeanor	there are bellsouth techs working on a few more, i think
ssavoie	correct
notFeanor	the rest are presumably not back since somethingawful is still off the net
mayo	they may not share them though .. somebody way saying bell will only be using them for their own customers/purposes
mayo	but there is always hope
toddmori	directnic_rules: what are you running?
directnic_rules	at home?  I have a PC with raid 1 SATA :)...  at work,  developing enterprise storage units
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directnic_rules	so lots of running, but for the purposes of breaking
notFeanor	trying to load somethingawful is a good test of what they've got back on
toddmori	been there, was in AIX test (storega) down in Austin
notFeanor	because it's hosted at zipa and used an entire OC-3 on its own userbaese
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directnic_rules	By remote copy  I was talking about real-time site wide failover systems... so you don't have to make copies.. just fail over the site and have continuity of access
mrdark	i love hds..our sales rep is so shady it's great
toddmori	yeah, we had that, using TrueCopy continuous Access across a GigaMAN
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toddmori	we had the primary site, and 2 realtime failovers
directnic_rules	funny, I probably don't know anything about the 'real world'... know the boxes inside and out, every component and line of code but its a whole other task to actually use this stuff right.. SAN specialists need like a phd
toddmori	mrdark: sounds like some EMC reps I know
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mrdark	our emc reps always make me feel dirty
toddmori	heh, it is not too bad after you get it working
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toddmori	I have always been lucky to have good HDS reps
toddmori	EMC OTOH they are pretty slimy as a whole
mrdark	srdf works ok for us
jon787	EMC needs better Q&A
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roo9	EMC is like the microsoft of the storage world
toddmori	heh, I got myself PNG'ed in hopkinton
jon787	they had a gaping hole in their Celerra NAS last march
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ir8d0g	speaking of microsoft...
toddmori	they even out us in the fishbowl in the front, and segregated us
toddmori	errrr s/out/put
ir8d0g	that's my employer (please shove religious nx wars up your a$$), can i offer any software to help you guys run your site
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mrdark	what hba's do you prefer?
toddmori	I liked JNI, but.....
ir8d0g	contrary to popular opinion, MS isn't the evil empire it's believed to be
directnic_rules	What IBM stuff @ directnic?
ir8d0g	i can get software to you if you are interested
mrdark	ya i like jni too, but i'm learning to dig emulex
[EPC]Starblazer	anybody have a direct link to the WM encoder that the cam is using?  I want to throw my bandwidth to the video cause
toddmori	had luck with Emulex (AIX only likes those) and Qlogic
roo9	ir8d0g: your right, it's worse
toddmori	man, we had the best reps from JNI
ir8d0g	hehe
Q_Continuum	ir8d0g: I think everyone's doing okay, but I mentioned and mayo mentioned dropping it on the blog, in case bw/etc was needed.
ir8d0g	ok....whatever
roo9	anyone have any need of some fast website hosting?
jon787	anyone who thinks microsoft is bad hasn't heard of IBM's history
ir8d0g	why bash....can you get facts and then admit when MS actually has fewer flaws than most others...
mrdark	qlogic has those 4gb cards out now i think
toddmori	i was loving the onboard multipathing JNI had
ir8d0g	technical support from MS is second to none...for businesses anyway...i can't believe the public still views MS like they were back in the NT days...such a different company
toddmori	yeah
toddmori	now if the storage mfgrs could just get 4Gb in the arrays
ir8d0g	i thought this was a place where logical people would share ideas to help our fallen town-folk...but sadly facts don't abound from the MS bashing posture of IRC
toddmori	mrdark: BTW, avoid the SVC like the plague
mrdark	are there even any switches out there that have 4gb ports?
toddmori	yeah
ir8d0g	i'll be here if anyone wants to pvt a logical conversation about things
toddmori	brocade  has the 4100 and the 48000
mrdark	ah
toddmori	we will see what McCNT does
jon787	ir8d0g: I'd go for a logical discussion, but this isn't a good place and there really isn't much to discuss. MS isn't that bad as far as companies go
jon787	back in the day IBM was bad
mrdark	never had much dealing with mcdata or cnt
ir8d0g	yeah...but they tried too...just not good enough
toddmori	we beta'd the CNT UMD director at a former job
directnic_rules	IBM DS4800 is 4gb
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toddmori	dude, the DS line is ok, but, seriously avoid the SVC
directnic_rules	hehe
toddmori	8 redundant inbounds, 16 connections to the array
mrdark	sweet
toddmori	one inbound goes down, the thing shat itself
toddmori	I stick with my tagmas for virtualization
toddmori	beta'd that too
toddmori	sweet box
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mrdark	ya hds keeps trying to sell us one
Number44	which DS do you guys have?  6000 or 8000
mrdark	a few more trips to the vip lounge at dallas gentlemens club might convince us
toddmori	seriously, can virtualize anything
Number44	we're seriously looking at a DS8000 for work
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toddmori	I have only worked with the 4000 series
sent	heh
Number44	ahh 4000 that's their previous iteration
toddmori	anything has to be better than shark
sent	who wants to see a funny photochop i did? :)
sent	http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
mrdark	shark has crappy io from what i recall
sent	the directnic people will appreciate this
toddmori	4000 series is midrange storage (read cheap)
Number44	hahah what's wrong with shark, we had a 2105, seemed to work great
toddmori	yeah, the shark has FC frontend, going across 2 RS/6000s pci buses to SSA onthe backend
mrdark	we just bought 6 dmx3000's
toddmori	serious bottlenecks
Number44	SSA was crap that's for damn sure
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Number44	ds8000 is FC now all thru or so I think
toddmori	HDS, or EMC can run circles around a 2105
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toddmori	same with the SVC FC->2 or 4 linux boxes (PCI)->FC
mrdark	2105 no muey bueno
toddmori	it just kills bandwidth
Number44	don't think they're selling 2105 anymore, it's all 2107
toddmori	EMC needs to get virtualization in-band to be a player
toddmori	2105-800 is still available
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jon787	EMC needs to put a small bit of quality control in their software so I can't find grave security holes unintentionally withint 10 minutes of using their system
toddmori	heh
jon787	as a user, not an admin. I still have no clue what system the IT dept has
toddmori	maybe they should just get it over with and buy FalconStor
jon787	except that its EMC
jon787	and EMC wanted the hole kept quiet
mrdark	i think i got a sec advisory from them about it last week
toddmori	nice
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jon787	mrdark: I found this in March
mrdark	heh
jon787	its been patched here since after finals week last spring
toddmori	have any of you been to the EMC offices in hopkinton in the last year or so?
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mrdark	ah n/m that is a cpu patch or something
jon787	this would be a directory traversal flaw patch
toddmori	ouch
jon787	lets just say I made it into the root of the NFS server
Number44	heard that IBM had some crazy 49 day issue and the box would crash
jon787	from a NFS client
mrdark	not i..been doing mainly HDS until like 2 months ago
jon787	and out onto NFS shares not exported to my workstation
toddmori	the 49day issue was the 4.4.x firmware from Brocade
toddmori	I think 4.4.2 was supposed to fix it
Number44	yah I heard about the brocade one, but this was even if you were sitting there with nothing attached
toddmori	yeah, it was a buffer overflow
mrdark	todd, ever use a qlogic switch?  curious if they are worth a flip
toddmori	BTW, if I ever see another brocade 3900 I will take an axe to it
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toddmori	nah, mainly brocade and McData
sent	http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
toddmori	I used some of their FC hubs back in the day, those were reliable at least
mrdark	ah.
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roo9	good one sent
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nefarioushex	Hey folks.
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@Eimann	g'morning ;)
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@Eimann	Any news? OC3s back up?
roo9	onlyonelastiheard
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illuminarok	one oc3 is good
roo9	okspacebarnotworkinghereitseems
sent	haha
sent	one oc3 is not enough
shanes	not for what we do
roo9	notnearly
illuminarok	i see
illuminarok	what all do you guys do?
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illuminarok	i don't know a thing about directNIC lol
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nefarioushex	They're a hosting company.
sent	i'm in charge of riding the stationary bike that's connected to the generator that's keeping me on IRC
roo9	i'mnetworkadministratoroneitseemswhohasnospacebaronhiskeyboard--this-is-annoying
nefarioushex	I was gonna comment on that, roo.
shanes	directnic is a domain registrar, we've got hosting, colocation...
nefarioushex	I'd fedex you one but i suspect it would get looted.
otaku42	what's an OC3?
otaku42	(just to pick up that question from topic ;))
nefarioushex	Hehe.
illuminarok	go into charmap and find one of the spaces and copy it
sent	shanes: you in the room with donny and mike?
illuminarok	and use ctrl+v to paste spaces in yoru words
N`Grath	i'm a bit surprised their leased lines even stayed up this long, considering our infrastructure over here
nefarioushex	There's lateral thinking for you.
shanes	no, i'm an hour south of new orleans right now
roo9	kind of got the spacebar back now, that's good
shanes	working remotely
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hfx_ben	anyone awake?
hfx_ben	Can someone tell me what this signifies: "Please use the alternate mirrors that are just as good so we can keep the mirror on the original for everyone to share."
roo9	anyway, i'm a network administrator for a company here in new york that does high-bandwdith web/media hosting
illuminarok	i see
nefarioushex	I'm a netadmin, so if you need any nokia / checkpoint / linux type assistance, i'll lend whatever hand i can. But it sounds like you rather need your fibre working to me.
illuminarok	well see i'm just wondering how is it even possible that the internet and the optical connections are working at all...
hfx_ben	Why is this a bad idea?   * The Mirror Feed: http://ods.org:8003/fema ... what's bad about this mirror?
shanes	thanks, and yes.
illuminarok	in NOLA
roo9	f~illuminarok: redundancy, and a healthy dose of luck i think
shanes	OC3s are running on generators down the street, the data center is on diesel also
illuminarok	i see
illuminarok	that's insane
sent	shanes: bellsouth has enough fuel, yes?
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shanes	unknown.
roo9	last I heard they had 3-weeks worth
otaku42	hfx_ben: i think it means that the main server should be reserved for connections from mirror servers, and the mirrors should be used by the listeners.
N`Grath	illuminarok: you can easily go 100-200km on a optical fibre before you need repeaters. and since fibre is often buried, it is more likely to survive a hurricane than telephone poles
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illuminarok	do you guys have plenty of vonage adapters so you can get "landlines" going?
shanes	if we can get fuel in, i imagine they have no problems
sent	roo9: DirectNIC has 3 weeks worth of fuel, Bellsouth.. ?
illuminarok	there's always skypeout but vonage would be ideal
nefarioushex	www.sipgate.co.uk
N`Grath	shanes: i'm more worried about their leased line providers
roo9	sent: oh, probably not nearly that much
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nefarioushex	Yeah, could be sucky if the backbone drops off.
hfx_ben	no answer from tech?
roo9	sent: we had the problem after 9/11, our datacenter had fuel for MANY days, but core routers went offline we were down to a small % of capacity, it was un-pretty
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hfx_ben	Shouldn't be such a major prob ... guys?
illuminarok	i wonder whats going to happen down there.. i'm in tennessee my uncle and aunt lived 50 miles west of nola but they were in korea at the time katrina hit
nefarioushex	Weren't some of the core routers IN the wtc?
shanes	can't give much of a status on network, i'm a developer :/
hfx_ben	otak ... sorry,missed your text ... thanks
otaku42	hfx_ben: np
otaku42	hfx_ben: but that was just a guess, i'm no techie
otaku42	hfx_ben: (at least not related to these streams)
roo9	what's the name of that website that lets you trace AS paths? i never can remember.
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hfx_ben	awwww geesch ... working by committee
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nefarioushex	Will samspade do?
nefarioushex	XD
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shanes	has anyone else's spam slowed down considerably since the disaster?
Number44	shanes: it was that viagra spammer that got busted
Number44	wrote 70k perscriptions
Number44	arrested, spam REALLY slwoed down
shanes	well, we do have some big spammers here around the Slidell area
nefarioushex	Funny imagery comes to my mind when someone mentions viagra spam. :|
shanes	that may have been him, not sure.
nefarioushex	Let me check my antispam thingie.
roo9	shanes: yes, it's down to about 42% spam for the past 24 hours
nefarioushex	About the same for me, but i'mn not in NOLA.
nefarioushex	...
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roo9	me neither, but i am usually at 60+%
nefarioushex	Maybe this is to be thought of as like the Great Fire of London, which cleaned up the bubonic plague.
roo9	f~nefarioushex: if you ask the anti-gay christians that's exactly what it is
roo9	and we are the plague
nefarioushex	Oh jesus.
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nefarioushex	People like that need to be stopped.
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roo9	hell yes
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roo9	so, anyone here agree with me and think that rebuilding NOLA is probably a waste of time?
nefarioushex	Yeah, make a new town.
shanes	well, that's easy to say if you aren't from here
roo9	your right, it is easier because I have never been there even
roo9	but, i think it's like when I was a child
roo9	i would spend hours at the beach building intricate systems of sand walls and trenches et al
@Eimann	streams are back online, added them on http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/ - http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 and http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no2.mp3
inter878	how can i get the live feed of police, etc., scanners?
roo9	all in the path of the oncoming water, and no matter what I did at the end of the day the water always rose up and destroyed it
shanes	it's a really old place with more history than most of this country.
shanes	kind of hard to let something like that go
roo9	shanes: but what if most of that history is already destroyed?
roo9	by the time the water recedes there may not be much left to save
shanes	it's not that bad, lots of places were never flooded
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Etcetera	FYI:...
londarr	it is still a very valuable peice of land, and lots of the inferstructure is still intact
03:08	Etcetera	is the Sr. Sysadmin at a SoCal ISP.. lots of hosting space and bw available for katrina-related stuff if needed: One of our founders is from LA
roo9	i just hope that after everyone is safe, that BEFORE they start pouring billions in to rebuild that they take some time to consider wether or not to rebuild
londarr	infrastructure*
shanes	anyone know offhand where cvs-pserver login/password info might be stored?
davidc_	well, IMHO, since the land is lower than sea level, seems sorta masochistic to me.
@Eimann	i'll be back in one hour i hope, bbl
nefarioushex	Depends what CVS daemon you're using i guess.
SEWilco	Land surface can be made higher.
inter878	where can i get instructions on connection to the scanners via internet?
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londarr	as long as the levees are made cat5+ storm proof it can still be a safe place
NotJust4Breakfas	the rebuilding, as well as the reason a lot of people live there in the first place, is rooted in semi-sensical sentimental notions of history and charm
NotJust4Breakfas	Anyone who goes
shanes	there are lots of songs about New Orleans for a reason.
NotJust4Breakfas	"AHHHH" at the mention of "French Quarter" knows what I'm talking about
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NotJust4Breakfas	or Bourbon Street
nefarioushex	Does it have a Rogue's Quarter?
davidc_	oh, I know the place is litterally full of history
nefarioushex	Moon over bourbon street is a nice song.
NotJust4Breakfas	THat would currently be THREE quarters
davidc_	but any raising of the land would destroy most of that history
NotJust4Breakfas	yes
NotJust4Breakfas	As well as being fantastically infeasible
davidc_	of course :P
davidc_	but it was brought up above.
inter878	this is the tech channel - where can i find tech instructions on connecting to police scanners?
NotJust4Breakfas	They could as easily live in balloons
shanes	levee strengthening, and more importantly, marshland revival would need to be invested in greatly
NotJust4Breakfas	are you reading the transcribed channels?
nefarioushex	I've got to go to the office.
nefarioushex	I'll be back.
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roo9	ok, i am going to sleep
roo9	if any of you guys want some katrina hosting, i can offer help :-)
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@Eimann	inconnect to it with your favourite mediaplayer
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@Eimann	roo9: Thanks, we should setup a list on the wiki where we can collect the offerings. and a tech-faq is needed to it seems
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@Eimann	i'll do it when i'm back
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hfx_ben	hey eiman ... all well?
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Karotte	hi
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hfx_ben	hi Kar
michaelloftis	hey eimann... +o here buddie.
03:49		mode/#interdictor-tech [+oo michaelloftis hfx_ben] by Eimann
@Eimann	hfx_ben: i'm fine, and you?
ben	I totally wish you guys would stop highlighting me.
ben	I really need to fix this.
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@Eimann	I've to go now, ttyl ;)
@michaelloftis	Eimann: thnx BTW
@michaelloftis	sorry i'm backlogged and my food is just finished cooking and i haven't eaten all day so i'm slobbering.
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Eimann|mobile	re. jmirc on my mobile.
Eimann|mobile	:-)
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Eimann|mobile	hi tothic
illuminarok	Astrodome is not allowing anymore passengers inside.
illuminarok	The people who got off the busses at Astrodome were told they cannot go inside and the busses already left.
{dm}	Illum: They are sending them to other places like the areana .. I have heard chatter of Reliant also
illuminarok	ah thanks dm
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@speakit	moin
Eimann|mobile	hi Occam
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04:35		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o ZOP] by michaelloftis
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04:40	inter766	is now known as K7AAY
K7AAY	Howdy, all, from PDX OR
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K7AAY	Have just added a huge chunka stuff over at the Wiki, including
K7AAY	a description of web->SMS, e-mail -> SMS and SMS -> e-mail
Eimann|mobile	thanks:)
K7AAY	as SMS works even when mobile phones have no dial tone.
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K7AAY	Missing some detail on some carrier info, would appreciate fill-in if you know the port number for SMS->e-mail for SPCS, Vzn, Nexthell.
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K7AAY	It's all in InfoDump.
04:44		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o michaelloftis] by ZOP
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Eimann|mobile	i'll do add some infos back home
Eimann|mobile	-do
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Eimann|mobile	uh, my mobile phone is running out of memory. too much traffic in the scanner channels
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@hfx_ben	k7aay are you licenced ham?
@hfx_ben	ahhhhhhh that's from you ... great stuff ... it's still in the InfoPile.
@hfx_ben	oh-woops ... forgot to turn time on
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@hfx_ben	nite y'all
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@speakit	eimann has some connection problems to freenode
@speakit	he is back home in 20minutes
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KronicD	[16:41:44] <K7AAY> Have just added a huge chunka stuff over at the Wiki, including
KronicD	[16:42:09] <K7AAY> a description of web->SMS, e-mail -> SMS and SMS -> e-mail
KronicD	Got url?
KronicD	nvm found it
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@Eimann	re
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Pete_O	I offered yesterday to help mirror in the UK, but having heard nothing back I'm assuming that you're fine
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@Eimann	Hi Pete_O, i entered my offer there: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/InfoDump#Resources_available.2Foffered: - But it seems that we actually had enough mirrors. Let's see, what will happen this day and if we need more mirrors.
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Pete_O	Hi Eimann - Thanks for the info
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besonen_	is everything still going over a single OC3?
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@Eimann	Jep.
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@Yog-home	damn...900 ppl in the main chain now
X15	Any wiki people here?
@Eimann	hm, i can't edited the mainpage when i'm logged in
X15	It looks like they have it locked
@Eimann	grr :-/
X15	Noones done anything on it sence i edited 30 min ago so i'm just gonna junmp in and start refactoring, it's a mess
X15	Need to make more pages, setup categorys, etc
@Eimann	that sucks. i'll update my mirror links and so on
@Eimann	yep, me too
X15	Cool, i'm gonna start spliting up Radio_info
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X15	Radio Info is alot clearner now, need to extract the HAM frequencys i think
X15	Hmmm, i can edit the main page now
X15	NM, i have the edit links, but i guess it's still locked
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Karotte	uhm
Karotte	the nola site is getting slammed
Karotte	They're using apache I assume?
X15	nola.com?
Karotte	www.nola-intel.org/pictures2/
X15	*shrug* who knows
@Eimann	i think they are
@Eimann	They're running Apache on FreeBSD
X15	Heh, Defenders arn't aircraft, who wrote some of this stuff...
X15	(radio calls)
Karotte	hm I'm trying to mirror pictures
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Karotte	Eimann: I'm using lighttpd for such sites, the numbers are incredible
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Karotte	Apache: 300 req/s, lighttpd: 3k-15k req/s
@Eimann	Jep :)
@Yog-home	apache is so bloated
@Eimann	lighttpd is cool, boa also
X15	But can lighthttpd do everything Apache can do?
X15	Apache is big for a reason
@Yog-home	probably not
iapx8088	any help wanted?
@Yog-home	heh.. I should send interdictor my canon 20D and 300MM IS lense
@Yog-home	then he could take better shots
@Yog-home	:)
X15	iapx8088: Update teh wiki
@Eimann	Yog-home: Uh yeah :)
X15	I think he'd probably perferr a good scope, lol
@Eimann	Yog-home: I got only a 350D with 300mm IS Lense :)
@Yog-home	350D is nice too
@Yog-home	or 'Rebel XT' as they call it here
@Yog-home	I also have an old Rebel
@Yog-home	I keep meaning to sell it
iapx8088	X15, I'm in italy, I have no first-hand news. I'm trying to collect some and put in my italian wifi
iapx8088	s/wifi/blog/
@Yog-home	350D can do almost everything the 20D can do, cept it doesn't ahve ISO 3200 mode, and it doesn't shoot full auto as fast (3fps vs. 5fps on the 20d)
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@Eimann	"italian wifi" is cool ;-))
iapx8088	X15, but if you wish, I can try...
iapx8088	Eimann, italian wifi, is usually open :)
@Yog-home	Eimann: www3.jsbc.cc/gallery <- those all taken w/ the 300D or 20D :)
@Eimann	My german wifi (ESSID: OpenAP) is usually open too :)
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@Eimann	Yog-home: i've my picturs on gallery.etherkiller.de - login is gallery:gallery
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@Yog-home	You don't have permission to access /gallery/ on this server.
@Yog-home	oh..hold on
@Yog-home	bad url
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@Yog-home	oh good.. i get to practice my german from high school 20 years ago :)
@Yog-home	Eimann: most my pics are motorsports releated :)
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@Eimann	I see ;)
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@Eimann	Yog-home: I'm actually looking at the babes album ;)
@Yog-home	ah :)
@Yog-home	the motoGP babes eh ? :)
@Yog-home	I was pretty bold that day...like paparazzi or something
@Eimann	jep ;)
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@Yog-home	heh..checkpoint charley
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09:18	Yog-home	wonders how many people on here are old enough to remember when Berlin was split in two
@Yog-home	Eimann: were you using a tripod or monopod for those night shots ?
mcsmurf	Yog-home: uuh none? ;)
mcsmurf	well maybe a few
09:20	Eimann	can't remember
@Eimann	I'm 17 years old ;)
@Yog-home	oh..that was a casio
@Yog-home	ah :)
@Eimann	Yog-home: a tripod
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@Yog-home	ah ok
@Yog-home	was going to say, if those were handheld, you are very steady :)
@Eimann	*g*
@Yog-home	http://gallery.etherkiller.de/BerlinatNight/05220082_G <- what building is this ?
@Eimann	i'm taking a tripod with me, when it's planned to take nightshots
@Yog-home	looks like a science fiction movie
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@Eimann	It's the Sony Tower at Potsdamer Platz
@Yog-home	yeh.. i hate lugging them around but you really need them
@Yog-home	ah
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dantekgeek	What kind of digital camera is being used to take the shots on the street?
JWIV	Longer exposure time to get enough light is always fun to deal with
@Eimann	dantekgeek: It was a Casio, which model i don't know actually, the shots are from 2003 or so, i don't remember ;)
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dantekgeek	thanks
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@Yog-home	heh.. Bush is taking off in Air Force One
@Eimann	davidc_: exif info say:
@Eimann	Equipment Make:CASIO
@Eimann	Camera Model:QV-4000
@Yog-home	Eimann: what sort of plant was that Duisburg-Nord ?  Refinery ?
@Yog-home	chem plant ?
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@Eimann	No, it was a furnance (Hochofen in Germany, Stahlwerk (steelworks?)).
@Eimann	s/Germany/german
@Yog-home	oh..ok
@Yog-home	http://gallery.etherkiller.de/Freitag01/01010008_G <- you know, gallery allows you to rotate the pictures ;)
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@Yog-home	heh.. LinuxTag .. I've never been to a Linux convetion.. almost went to the LinuxWorld in SF but had something else to do
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Heliox	any news on the oc3's?
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@Eimann	Heliox: nope
@Eimann	Yog-home: Hm, can't remember my gallery-password, so i can't rotate the pic ;)
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@Eimann	hm i'll be back in 15 minutes :)
wemmi	where i am possible to see bush in live video?
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@Yog-home	eheh
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@Eimann	re
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SP4Ruisi	Former US Army 31F/11H - field digital multichannel coms training
SP4Ruisi	plus 1 yr in infantry
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10:02	veruus	throws SP4Ruisi an M-16
veruus	stop the looters plzkthx
veruus	:D
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SP4Ruisi	looking to provide any assistance i can
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iapx8088	going to sleep a bit. If you need some help, just call me.
iapx8088	I'll be back in a while.
Sweeper	unix sysadmin, ready to help~
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eMoose	I can offer hosting for any static content - we only have a 10M pipe available, but every bit helps...
iapx8088	anyhow, I'm trying to summarize it in my blog (in italian).
veruus	<-- can assist w/ linux sysadmin tasks
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gooroo	I've got 100MB in NE UK
Sweeper	oh,a dn I can do spanish translations,, if needed
Sweeper	and have 1GBPS colo, if needed
eMoose	We're canadian too, and have connectivity to all the canadian backbones
SP4Ruisi	hey... do the people on the ground have any access to the broadcast media?
iapx8088	freebsd admin here, with some knowledge with php, here if there's need. And italian traslation too. No bandwith as the pipe isn't mine.
SP4Ruisi	AM radio, etc
eMoose	someone should go hit up akami for some content caching
@Eimann	veruus: u should offer your help in #norescue, take a look at http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php and http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php/Locations_And_Abilities - Tahnks!
SP4Ruisi	if cont, people should be getting the hand-crank radios out
veruus	Eimann: thanks
@Eimann	http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/InfoDump#Resources_available.2Foffered: - For Colo/Server-Stuff
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@Eimann	eMoose: I'll write akamai noc soon.
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eMoose	Eimann: that would probably be the best solution overall
eMoose	Eimann: I can still host static content if you need it
fooki_	has someone set up a list of people who have been confirmed to be alive?
X15	I think that's still abit premature fooki
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D90	who
princessfrozen	CNN has something of that nature
@Eimann	eMoose: Actually there's no need i think, but thanks for the offer :)
eMoose	Eimann: no worries, let me know if I can help - I can do some Unix/router/etc admin if required too,
eMoose	fooki: CNN does have that for sure.
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@Eimann	eMoose: Adminstuff could be needed at #norescue please also take a look at the wiki: http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php and http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/index.php/Locations_And_Abilities - :-)
@Eimann	i'll be afk now for some minutes to talk to akamai and ask, if they can host our content.
SP4Ruisi	k.. i just emailed in my abilities...
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princessfrozen	oy popups
rigbyd	Ok, was readin the wiki, maybe im blind but i cant find any information on interdictor and his people. What are the different "Outposts"?
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rigbyd	sorry
rigbyd	wrong channel
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rigbyd	That aside I work in IT and can am willing to provide what i can, which is not much aside from time and general technical support
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princessfrozen	I too work in IT, I'd be willing to do whatever remote admin type things as needed.
toddmori	Fox is reporting that the chillers @ BellSouth are about to go out
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L-ox	chillers?
L-ox	got a link toddmori, or is this cable/sat TV?
eMoose	fancy word for Air Conditioner. :-)
toddmori	they act as teh heat transfer for the datacenter
@Eimann	Ok, phone and mailed some facts to the Akamai NOC, waiting for a response now :-)
toddmori	FOX News
toddmori	BIG ac
eMoose	well, yes, big a/c would be appropriate.
toddmori	not sure though, they are saying that they need to pump water into them, unless they arean evaporation bed, that doesn't make much sense
@Eimann	Hm, message on NANOG:
@Eimann	Can someone contact me from Xspedius? I am investigating an issue for the
@Eimann	American Red Cross in New Orleans.
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gooroo	is the video feed still alive?
@Eimann	http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans works for me
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galaad2	Eimann, that feed is 327 Kbps.. have you got one a little less bandwidth hungry ?
galaad2	i'm on a measly 256 kbps link here
10:42	riel	is more worried about the server running out of bandwidth
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galaad2	oh goodie.. it downgraded itself automatically to 163 kbps
@Eimann	galaad2: nope, sorry. Try to enlarge your players cach
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@Eimann	Akaimai NOC forwarded my question to Akamai Sales ;-)
besonen_	does Outpost Crystal still have only a single OC3?
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X15	Yes
galaad2	seems so
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princessfrozen	Are there any webdesign types in here?
iapx8088	what do you mean
iapx8088	I'm used to work with php.
iapx8088	I used to work (bad typo)
vverpoort	yeah
vverpoort	what you wanne know
princessfrozen	I'm looking to create a website encouraging people to donate one day of their pay to relief efforts, whether it be by taking the day off and volunteering or by donating one days wages...however my site design skills are quite primitive
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vverpoort	hmm you want some help ? or you want someone to do it all ?
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vverpoort	i'm willing to aske some of my poeple to help on building it
princessfrozen	help
princessfrozen	i have a general idea, i just dont know how to implement it
vverpoort	if you can comeup with the info thats needed and the content ill see what i can do
princessfrozen	that would be great, thank you
vverpoort	i just dont think poeple will do that
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princessfrozen	why not?
vverpoort	i thik you got a beeter thing when you say or make a kind of info page where poeple can meet one and other and go there to help with the rebuild
vverpoort	i think there are already allot of donation things going on and stuff like that
princessfrozen	this is true
vverpoort	maybe it better to start something to make/help poeple be inforemd and where they can coordinate follenteer work
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SP4Ruisi	the focus has to be on getting out of the city
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vverpoort	yeah make a site where poeple can give information on how to do that out of there own experiance
iapx8088	i'm completely with vverpoort.
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SP4Ruisi	you guys have a stream from the scanners?
torg	There are a couple streams listed in the #interdictor-scanner topic.
princessfrozen	is there motions in place for funding to be used for bussing people out of there?
11:11	princessfrozen	takes this to chat
Etcetera	http://www.redwire.net/~jccleaver/katrina/
Etcetera	some wiki links there...
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torg	Congress approved 10.5 billion in aid yesterday.
joev	If they approved one tenth of that years ago, they wouldn't be in this mess.
moonwick	heh.  that'll be a nice down payment on what this ends up costing in the end.
torg	Yeah, pretty much, but it's a good start.
joev	(Oops; didn't notice this was in -tech)
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torg	Has there been any new updates this morning on their uplink situation?
torg	or is it the same as it was at about 11pm CDT last night?
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X15	One Oc3 is all
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torg	Ok... so nothing has changed =(
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X15	No, but Bellsouth may get theres back up, there at the there building but say it's not a priority
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torg	Thanks man.  I just didn't want to be the eleventy-billionth person to ask that in the main channel =P
@Eimann	hehe
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@Eimann	afk, need some food
notFeanor	i wonder if they're on fire
torg	if who is on fire?
torg	Donny's been posting in the main channel, so the DirectNIC guys should be safe.
gooroo	he just posted an update on the blog as well
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mojo	blog URL?
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torg	http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
mojo	thanx!
gooroo	http://mgno.com/
collusion	looks like the main wiki site is overloaded?
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torg	They said in the main chan that it was broken, and they are fixing it now.
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collusion	i have access to some bw/cpu if that would be helpful
torg	I heard that they have all the mirrors they need now.
jtk10	HArdware or software issue?
torg	They didn't say.
gooroo	they say they've got 10Gbps from somewhere.. so i think they are sorted
torg	Heh, look at the blog comments when they asked for mirroing space.  TONS of people stepped up.
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rilliam	are the new pics posted somewhere?
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SEWilco	http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Current_events Fatal error:  Call to a member function tableName() on a non-object in /var/www/stfunoob.com/nola/wiki/includes/ObjectCache.php on line 409
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mith_	i am getting the following error message when trying to view the video feed - "WMP cannot connect to server..."
torg	Yes, the wiki is down, and people are working on it now.. it was reported in the main chan.
mith_	have been getting it all morning
torg	[11:01:03 AM] <jon787> the camera feeds go reset a short time ago, if you are having problems in the last 30 minutes, try reconnecting now
torg	From main chan on video feeds.
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torg	It's still endless buffering on this end, but I can connect.
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@Eimann	torg: We're trying to move our relay (http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans) from the mises relay to the original source stream
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torg	Nice.  The mirroring effort being done is amazing.
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Ben-377T	torg - no joke!  very impressive
stew	anything being done to fix http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Current_events ?  anyway I can help?  I know php/linux/etc...
torg	They are working on it stew.  It was mentioned in the main chan.
stew	cool
jon787	10k messages, about time I archived nanog and startd a new folder for it
torg	I imagine the traffic hitting that site is astronomical.
Alex_NYC	is there a cam that actually works?
@Eimann	We're doing around 300-500mbit/s actually with three boxes here in Germany
torg	Yes, but they are pretty well overloded with all the traffic alex.
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torg	http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans I'm on this feed atm, it's spotty, but it works.
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Alex_NYC	im  trying that one
Alex_NYC	surprised there are not more mirrors
Alex_NYC	hmm
Alex_NYC	think im on
torg	I don't think the mirrors are hte problem.
Alex_NYC	whoa
Alex_NYC	fire
torg	Yeah, there are 3 burning according to the blog.
@Eimann	Alex_NYC: My problem to mirror it was the missing windows server with windows media server. so i asked a friend who is working for another provider, he helped me out with the 194... box
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Alex_NYC	nice work Eimann
@Eimann	194... fucked up, services unavailable, hmmm.
torg	Yeah, I agree, keep it up =)
@Eimann	i'll check what happened :/
Alex_NYC	im buffering
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@Eimann	Uups: Server return 453:Not Enough Bandwidth
torg	Yeah, I've gotten that message a few times too.
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@Eimann	Warghs, we need Akamai or more Hardware hier in Germany too keep it up. Our Box is under high load and i haven't enough hardware here to build another one
torg	Eimann, got it to connect, and quit buffering, but it's just a black feed.
@Eimann	Hm, ok.
Alex_NYC	maybe lower the bitrate/?
torg	The mises.org mirrors seem to be borked as well.
torg	Perhaps the main feed is overloaded?
@Eimann	This could be a reason why we get no video ... :/
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torg	That's what I'm thinkin.
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torg	Seems like every major online news site is linking this now.
@Eimann	I'll ask for an access-control list at the main server, so only the relay can connect to the main-source.
torg	That would be a great idea.  Only let mirrors connect to the main feed, and have the users hit the mirrors.
@Eimann	Jep :)
|ynchmob	i have a p3 800mhz w/ 512mb ram sitting at the isp i work for that can be used for a mirror if its needed
@Eimann	02.09.05 18:24 I have only 3 connections to my main feed
Bluelive	needs more mirrors and noone on the providing hosts
@Eimann	|ynchmob: Can u run Windows and Windows Media Streamingservices or Linux + Realmedia Server on it? We need mirrors for the videofeed
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royb	if someone can find a home in either charlotte or greensboro, i can offer a dual p2 400 with 512mb with whatever OS.
@Eimann	my http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no2.mp3 is down too ://
torg	Is that the scanner feeds?
Sweeper	yea
|ynchmob	its got slackware 10 running with apache 1.3 - i can get the realmedia set up on it if you can gimmie a link
|ynchmob	in West Point, Georgia
@speakit	Eimann, to much load? for no2.mp3?
@speakit	i can setup another relay on berkman in amsterdam
@speakit	icecast2
12:29	speakit	imc tech
|ynchmob	if you'd prefer i can just set you up a shell acct with sudo priviledges to do whatever's needed
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@Eimann	speakit: mom
@Eimann	speakit: my source for no2.mp3 gone away
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torg	Cam mirroring is being discussed on the main chan atm.
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NACAlex	I am here
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Nac-paradox	I am here
moonwick	ltnc.
@Eimann	hi there, alex
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NACAlex	hello
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@Eimann	oh, cool, so many nac.net people :)
NACAlex	if you want us to mirror cams or whatever, we can get a couple more servers going
@Eimann	what u need to mirror, is a server which can relay mms/wmv, it should be a windows server with windows media services. if u have such a box, it would be cool
SEWilco	"Main channel" keeps getting mentioned here, perhaps the Topic should mention what channel that is.
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mariab	has anyone considered the effect of ash/dust on the aircon chillers?
torg	darwin streaming server should work too. (According to the main channel #interdictor)
Nac-paradox	windows
@Eimann	otherwise, i think, we can use realmedia server for it under linux. this should work too.
Nac-paradox	dual amd 244 or a p4 3,2
Nac-paradox	I can give any os
@Eimann	torg: what?! coool! :)
Nac-paradox	win2k3, centos, fbsd,
torg	I would think bandwidth would be the issue, not cpu/ram.
Nac-paradox	all in 7 minutes or less (cept windows)
Nac-paradox	so let me get some p4 3.2's fired up
SEWilco	aircon chillers just got rinsed with a hurricane's worth of water, they probably can survive smoke and dust for a while.
Nac-paradox	I am already getting 2 for ods.org
NACAlex	is anyone from directnic here, or no?
Alex_NYC	cpu will get hit as well as bw
@Eimann	hm, ok, if darwin is working, we can use centos for that i think
Nac-paradox	centos 3.5 released today on our stuff :)
torg	I know donny from directnic is in #interdictor
12:41		mode/#interdictor-tech [+oo Nac-paradox NACAlex] by Eimann
@NACAlex	is his nick 'donny' ?
X15	yes
torg	As far as I know, yes.
mariab	I've never known a chiller to just get dirty sitting around in the open air
@NACAlex	msg donny there?
mariab	but the dust is going to stick to the fits, and it's going to start blocking it up
mariab	s/fits/fins/
torg	#interdictor is moderated, so as for voice if you want to talk to everyone.
MatthewAT	hey - I'm at a very well connected west coast university (dual OC48s + Internet2) with a windows media box. might be able to hook you up with something, if you need it.
@Eimann	MatthewAT: Yep, sure :-)
MatthewAT	do you have a mirroring procedure in place?
zotted	Yesterdy I posted about the lack of APRS units in NOLA.  Apparently some repeaters and gateways are back online since I see a few units today via xastir.
torg	The wiki is back up. (Static only though.)
@Eimann	MatthewAT: I don't know much about windows media services, but i think, it should pretty easy. if u can't setup it, i'll take a look at it, via remote desktop
MatthewAT	ok, give me a few to tweak the box. i'll get back to you
@Eimann	ok, thanks man! :)
@speakit	Eimann, if you can figure out how to relay the stuff with dss... bbl in a half or so..
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@Eimann	speakit: ok
@Nac-paradox	Hi. directnic.
@Nac-paradox	what os do you want on these 2 boxes
torg	I dunno if there are any directnic people in this channel.  You might get better response to that in the main chan (#interdictor)
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@Eimann	Nac-paradox: We should use CentOS and Win2k3, if this is no problem.
torg	Me, I'm just a fellow geek trying to fend off some of the questions from em =)
@Eimann	Nac-paradox: So we can test the Darwin Streaming Stuff and use the Windows Media Services
@Nac-paradox	1 centos
@Nac-paradox	1 win2k
@Nac-paradox	ok
torg	MrPants in the main chan seems to be heading up the mirroring effort.
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Bluelive	no need to use dns rr and such, you can specify a list of mirrors in the .asx file, you might want to rr that list though
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jwiv	Blue, that's what he's working on i believe
mariab	wii firew
@NACAlex	mrpants won't reply to my msg; can you poke him to msg me
mariab	oops, I'll be needing a /
X15	NACA i'd wait till he gets it all going
torg	[11:55:13 AM] <MrPants> anybody interested in assisting with cam or web infrastructure, join #interdictor-it please
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trizzo	NACALEX
trizzo	HI NACALEX
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MrPants	ok
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12:55		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o MrPants] by Eimann
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Sandoz	ok
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silas	we need a darwin streaming server up
silas	also what is up with the wiki?
torg	wiki is back up, but static.
silas	still can't get it
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12:56		Eimann changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | We need Darwin Streaming Server users to help out setting up DSS to relay wmv-streams.
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torg	I can get in silas.
@MrPants	i'll have a darwin mirror up in about ten minutes.
WeyrNet-James	Let me know what to do, how to set up DSS, and I'll cough up another 20mbit
torg	http://www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
silas	UMM must be me then
torg	Use that link.
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silas	I get it now
silas	I'm going to setup a linux box for DSS
@NACAlex	-it is moderated, with only one op, who doesn't seem to be present ;)
trizzo	Hi Alex!
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@NACAlex	trizo
trizzo	y0e
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@NACAlex	whats up
torg	Alex, topic says false alarm, come here.
@NACAlex	heh
@NACAlex	ok
trizzo	nada
@NACAlex	i am here
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@NACAlex	mrpants
@NACAlex	we got two servers coming up for you momentarily
@MrPants	ok
@NACAlex	one centos, one w2k3
@Eimann	very good :)
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icculus	I've got a Fedora-based server with about 1500 gigabytes of bandwidth that's paid for an won't otherwise be used; is there any mirroring I can do for you guys?
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Lodion	hmm i work at an ISP in australia, can provide a bunch of static hosting
@MrPants	icculus: download darwin server and install it.
icculus	MrPants: Looking into it right now.
@MrPants	http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
@NACAlex	1500 gbytes = about 4 mbits/sec on average for a month
@MrPants	the redhat 9 installer ought to work on fedora jsut fine
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@NACAlex	fyi, the stream server's are hitting 100 mbits/sec
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Lodion	what bitrate are the streams?
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trizzo	nac: no shit?
@NACAlex	http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/08/30/national/evac.184.1.650.jpg
trizzo	put that box on gig PLZ
JaySuds	Does Darwin work on Win2K3?
@MrPants	i belive the stream is 300kbit
13:02		Eimann changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | We need Darwin Streaming Server users to help out setting up DSS to relay wmv-streams. | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
@MrPants	which is really too much
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doofoo	actually it's the pictures that are making it hit 100mbit/s
doofoo	;)
Lodion	yeah thats huge
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mxhess	no kidding 300Kb is way too myuch for a webcam
doofoo	oh the video
doofoo	video is using that too.. lol
WeyrNet-James	What do I want, the server, or the proxy?
@Eimann	We're at around 200-300mbit/s
doofoo	pictures are maxing at 100mbit over here
Starblazer	the pics are huge too
doofoo	yup
Lodion	gah gotta register with appl eto grab DSS
13:03		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o doofoo] by mathx
Starblazer	if i only could figure out how to directly re-stream off the cam, i'd dedicate my win2k swerver
tolkachi	someone post registration info
nouv	for pictures, one suggestion is to cache them
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@MrPants	just a second
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nouv	there are a couple of free caching service we can use
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13:04	jnagro	waves
@doofoo	such as what?
mxhess	so.. for darwin.. server or proxy?
silas	DSS works with 2k3
@doofoo	that will cache 1.2gb?
jnagro	i can offer a server up if it helps
@doofoo	and 100mbit/s
@Eimann	mxhess: proxy, i think
@doofoo	++
Starblazer	2k3?
mxhess	k
Starblazer	it's a 2000 box
silas	DSS works with 2k3
@MrPants	http://www.tacular.com/katrina/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Linux.tar.gz
jnagro	100mbit connection, freebsd, 2.4ghz, gig of ram
Lodion	cheers
jnagro	top level providers
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@MrPants	that's the redhat 9 installer
Lodion	HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
nouv	let me pull it up
jnagro	is there anything i can do to help?
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nouv	wow, is /. down?
spydum	no.. ?
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jwiv	Setup a darwin connection jnagro
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spydum	it was up a sec ago
theagent	are we on the video stuff?
jnagro	jwiv: will do
Bluelive	/. seems unreachable
Lodion	seems to be
spydum	now it seems to be dead.. wow
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nouv	yea damn
spydum	just happened within a minute or two
theagent	Darwin is the way to do this quickly
nouv	hahahahahaha
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Bluelive	first for me :)
jnagro	any docs on how to connect?
Lodion	next thing you know google will be down :P
jnagro	can i mirror docs?
nouv	it's been a while since it's down
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nouv	back up now
ratman2	anyone know what happened to the scanner feed?
Starblazer	which one?
@doofoo	my scanner feed is up
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ratman2	Baton rouge
Starblazer	there was one that looped morse code
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Lodion	MrPants that url gives a 403
@doofoo	http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema up
spydum	the windows media streams need more mirrors eh.. need to get a windows media server up to stream from the original MMS feed
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Houston	ok is this where we go to help setting up video stream mirrors?
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theagent	ues
theagent	yes
@doofoo	lol it was..
@doofoo	dropped it's feed
jnagro	i'd like to toss up a howto page, do we have any docs?
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jnagro	someone msg me with instructions and i can have a page up
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mxhess	http://nola-intel.org:8003/astro lost feed
Kremit	doofoo: I seem to be having trouble with that feed, I am mirroring it and it keeps cutting out... is that the source feed or should I be mirroring another address?
Starblazer	Sollord, would darwin mirror the video feed?
Houston	Gist of it is have one small stream from your source
trizzo	i wish we used standard ports for these feeds, my corp firewall is knocking them down!
mxhess	http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema - 404 stream not found
Houston	then pull that from window smedia server
@doofoo	kremit: the source is dropping
@doofoo	not my feed
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trizzo	can we use 80 or 8000 or 8080 plz!
theagent	darwin will mirror without issue
Kremit	doofoo: ok, thanks
Starblazer	k
@doofoo	we do not list the source, because we don't want it overloaded
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@doofoo	which it seems to be doing.
Kremit	yea I understand that
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@doofoo	back up
MaxieZ	Well if we don't have a source what can we mirror?
@doofoo	Baton Rouge
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trizzo	url to video feed plz
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X15	You will get a source guys! Be patient for now!
nouv	who's handling the website for the pictures?
theagent	only mirrors will have feed
nouv	i found the caching service
Houston	you have Windows Media Services installed?
MaxieZ	Sure thing.  If patience is needed
@doofoo	i have the web pics
jnagro	someone msg me with instructions and i can have a howto page up
Houston	give me a sec to put it together
Houston	a howto
Starblazer	I can either do WMS or Darwin
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@doofoo	brb.. stepping out for a min
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Starblazer	i'd rather use darwin for the WMS stream
MaxieZ	I'm with natnet.  I'm going to mirror when I get a location.  FWIW
shanes	hey, anyone in here proficient in Darwin/BSD feel like helping one of the business in Poydras Center move their data?  I'm really swamped dealing with directNIC right now and can't help him
klaude	I'll set up a mirror. I have a freebsd server on a 100mbit connection not doing much atm.
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tolkachi	**Apple DevGroup Login: Nola-intel Pw: nolaintel
mxhess	I work with OpenBSD
icculus	http://treefort.icculus.org/interdictor/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Linux.tar.gz  <-- here's the red hat DSS package, the url above was a 403
Starblazer	i'm a linux / gentoo guy
Lodion	thanks icculus
X15	Anyone that wants to provide a mirror setup Darwin or WMS on your box, you will get a feed where were ready for you
theagent	Darwin kicks butt for doing this kind of stuff
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Bluelive	only make a handfull of lvl 1 mirrors
WeyrNet-James	I'm downloading Darwin now
Bluelive	let others mirror that
Starblazer	same
theagent	yeah... do like 5 to 10 seed feeds
jwiv	X15, what level of connection are we talking about required for this?
spydum	yep, need a real hierarchy of feeds
@Nac-paradox	OC-48
Houston	x15 I can have it up in a sec
@NACAlex	this will eat 100 mb/s without thinking about it
jnagro	we need docs, instructions, i can make a static page
shanes	it's basically just tarring/ftping drives for him..
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jnagro	msg me with an outline, i can have a staic page up
Houston	x15: or 2 :)
shanes	his icq is 305451910
shanes	thanks in advance
@MrPants	ok
trizzo	NACAlex : whats the url to the stream?
silas	does DSS even allow you to relay WMS stuff?
@NACAlex	funny, i don't know
trizzo	gimme url to graphs! ;-)
nouv	anyone here at google?
Knobee	we need akamai to help out.
@Nac-paradox	heh
@Nac-paradox	akamai
theagent	I'm waiting to hear from VitalStream here on the West Coast.
X15	You will all get a stream when it's ready, for now just get ready for it
@NACAlex	akamai is already
theagent	its all they freaking do, media streaming
Houston	X15: Am ready for the stream to start mirroring
Knobee	oh.. hi Alex.  8-)
X15	They do more
X15	Good, now wait till we are
jnagro	i would like to help, what can i mirror?
Eggatwork	x15 what server software
Houston	X15: nm just looked up / am ready
nouv	NACAlex: are they caching the pictures now?
jnagro	instructions? photos? streams?
Bluelive	seriously need a european mirror ;)
X15	Darwin or WMS
trizzo	• Police sergeant says many officers drowned on the job
trizzo	• Officer spots bodies riddled by bullets; man's head shot off
trizzo	ouch
@NACAlex	how do you think cnn and foxnews haven't died?
jnagro	trizzo: where did you hear that?
@Eimann	We need also a declarition which server is where located so that European User don'T connect to the .us server and .us user not to the european server
Starblazer	same here, have darwin installed
nouv	oh i just assumed they were already signed up with akamai :)
nouv	i mean if a small company like us is using akamai
nouv	heh
shanes	fyi, i have the volumes he really needs already gzipped up in the large volume
X15	Who needs akamai when we have all you guys?
nouv	i was thinking in the context of interdictor
nouv	are you with akamai?
X15	no
@Eimann	I mailed akamai
theagent	I call VitalStream
MaxieZ	Well someone should make a nice asx file with all the feeds and serv that instead
@Eimann	I'm in touch with them already, but it takes a while to get an ok
X15	That's what were doing maxoe
ratman2	guys, so we have a scanner feed I can relay that is up?
WeyrNet-James	Darwin installed
ratman2	do
MaxieZ	Then yeah who needs akamai
zotted	all of the traffic on the intercontinental links is going to break the intarweb
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Bluelive	nah, pingtimes are only slighty above normal
Mrdini	out of interest, would 400GB bandwidth help? (Dreamhost here)
nouv	it'd be helpful if akamai can cache the notal-intel.org pictures
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Bluelive	400gb or 400gb/s ?
torg	I think they have all the bandwidth they need.
Houston	Ya bandwidht isnt an issue
Mrdini	blue, 400Gb - not sure how  much per sec
Houston	I was told it was lakcing enough people that knew how to do it
kveton	those pics are dog slow
Mrdini	I mean for Darwin
@NACAlex	thats about 1 mb/s on average for a month
jnagro	ic an cche em
kveton	it'd be pretty easy to throw a squid cache in front of that
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jnagro	i can cache them
@Eimann	ise http://mirrors.rrbone.net/ for pictures
@MrPants	i have another mirror of the nola-intel pictures up here: http://www.tacular.com/katrina/
nouv	houston: what do you mean?
Houston	<-- can set up WMS no prob
Bluelive	vid feeds take gb/s a sec with a few dozen k viewers
@MrPants	they're reindexed, but it's all 500mb+ of the pics
jnagro	msg me if i can toss up a mirror
Mrdini	(I have access to darwin streaming, so can serve up 400gb if needed)
Houston	I was sent to this channel and was told bandwidth wasnt an issue
Houston	Was told they neede people who knew how to set up Video Stream Mirros
@Eimann	wah, where the hell is this fscking admin interface of dss? which portnumber?
Houston	And I know that
@NACAlex	yes, that is true
WeyrNet-James	Eimann: 1220
@NACAlex	we have two servers coming up here in the next couple minutes
@Eimann	WeyrNet-James: thx
@NACAlex	and will need help setting up the streams.
Houston	But I think we are waiting on a stream from X15 so we can all start mirroring it
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13:17	Etcetera	would like to help mirror as well
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X15	From Pants actually, i'm just keeping you guys in line
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Etcetera	100Mbits out of our data centers...
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cshields	hey guys..  trying to mirror the pics here (for http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub with 400mb free).  which source should I use?
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Ripside	anyone have information about setting up a mirror?
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Ripside	for the cam feed?
Houston	I'll open up a Teamspeak server and talk anyone through setting up a WMS server
dniq	Hi everyone! I have 100 megabit connection to the internet and can host a mirror for your feeds for at least a couple of days.
Ripside	I also have a 100Mbps connection
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jebba	anyone have a sample DSS config? I have DSS available on linux boxes and 2x 100MBit pipes
dniq	Can also mirror some other stuff
halogen8	looking for a cam link to watch
cshields	(for the nola-intel.org/pictures site)
@Eimann	WeyrNet-James: I've started it with `DarwinStreamingServer` - but theres no port open like 1220
X15	dniq: setup Darwin streaming or WMS
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djs	hey, any chance i can help mirror?
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jnagro	i would like to offer a 100mbit mirror
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jnagro	images, whatever
WeyrNet-James	Eimann: Linux?
jnagro	please lemme know what i can do
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dniq	Linux/Apache
@Eimann	WeyrNet-James: Jep, Debian
dniq	Mandrake here
jnagro	freebsd here
Ripside	Linux/APache here also
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Houston	Teamspeak server for talking about setting up WMS : http://matrixreport.com user:Anonymous pass:machines1
Ripside	Centos
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X15	Anyone that wans to mirror should setup Darwin Streaming Server or WMS and wait for a feed
dniq	I also have some pretty powerful load balancing here
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WeyrNet-James	Eimann: You should've done ./Install, and then once it'd gone through asking you for a username and password, it should've started automagically
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Alex_NYC	are mirrors up yet?
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X15	no
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WeyrNet-James	X15: I'm waiting :)
13:19	rknepper	maybe able to offer some streaming mirroring from QTSS or WMS
Starblazer	F
@Eimann	WeyrNet-James: Will check again, one moment please ;)
Starblazer	Streaming Server done starting up
Starblazer	FATAL: Error switching to group qtss: Success
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Mrdini	X15, as I remarked - is 400GB available worth me volunteering for DSS stream?
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Mrdini	or too little?
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X15	I don't think so
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X15	Not if that's per month
Starblazer	400GB a month is worthless
@NACAlex	400 gb is unfortunately not enough
djs	anything available for a windows host?
bwheatley	What do i have to install to get a mirror setup for this host? DSS?
Mrdini	ok, in that case, I'll pass
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@doofoo	yeah if that is per month no way
X15	bwheatley: yes
@doofoo	i am hosting just pictures
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mxhess	20Mb/s worthless?
@doofoo	and i've used over 400gb so far
theagent	lets setup a Gizmo partyline for the discussion...
@doofoo	lol
|ynchmob	http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar  Darwin Source
@doofoo	i am using 100Mbit/s just hosting the pictures
trizzo	SKYPE PARTYLINE!
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icculus	Do we have a feed for DSS yet, or still waiting?
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roo9	good morning
bwheatley	gotcha installing across all 8 servers now
@doofoo	and static page on http://www.nola-intel.org 100mb/s
@MrPants	doofoo: which mirror are you running?
jebba	|ynchmob, do you have a DSS config? linux box here
@doofoo	i run the nola-intel.org
@MrPants	ok
sosumi	server available for mirror if needed
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|ynchmob	no, just now untaring it
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@MrPants	i have everything mirrored at http://www.tacular.com/katrina/
@NACAlex	the one box doing streams and pics in our center is doing about 1.5 gigaBYTES per 2 minutes.
theagent	anyone in Europe available for mirroring webcam?
dniq	OK, installed DSS
DJTachyon	argh i cant connec to any stream
MaxieZ	Let's put the status in the topic
torg	holy shit, that's a lot of traffic.
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@MrPants	re-indexed, but all three galleries are there. if you want to link to it go right ahead
Lodion	ok i have DSS setup, can stream for end users only though
@doofoo	NACalex: yup.. i tried msging you to thank you again. :)
SR3	doofoo - i don't have the technical prowess to setup a video mirror but i can host whatever else. whatcha guys need mirrored?
djs	anythign for windows out therE?
@NACAlex	no thanking needed :)
@doofoo	it's doing streams + pics + running open domain service.. lol
plus	hrm
kveton	NACAlex: why not have people do caching out in front of the pics?
DJTachyon	whats the best mirror right now for a decent cam stream?
plus	is there any way i can just setup a private stream?
icculus	jebba: Untar it, run "Install", it'll dump some files into your filesystem, so take note. Make a login name for it (it's part of /etc/passwd, it's unique to DSS), then connect with HTTP to port 1220 on your server to finish setup.)
kveton	but still use you as the source?
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nouv	is the main blog maintainer in this chat channel?
kveton	all of the mirrors won't keep up if they aren't automated
theagent	no cam streams yet
X15	No nouv
Houston	Anyone who need help setting up a Windows Media Server Mirror Skype me john_h3653
@NACAlex	i don't have a problem with that, but we have other servers coming up to supplement.
icculus	jebba: er...it's NOT part of /etc/passwd, I mean
jebba	icculus, I have it installed fine
@doofoo	yeah we are going to split the pictures up
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jebba	just need config pointers
plus	i dont have the bandwith to run a public, but there's people on my campus that would be willing to watch a local/private
iapx8088	what about something to permit people to signal they are fine with their cellphones. I guess the idea has already been thrown in.
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@doofoo	pictures1 and pictures2 on another server in a few.
nouv	i'm not sure who he's communicating to, but it'd be good to change the picture links on his page to a mirror list
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@doofoo	it can handle it fine.
mxhess	1.5 gigabytes every 2 mins ~= 100Mb/s right?
Lodion	anyone have a stream source for me to relay? at least to test?
X15	nouv he'll get the word when were setup
nouv	ah
spydum	yes 1.5gB/2min == 100mbit even
nouv	ok
theagent	someone needs to take the existing cam link down off the wiki and blog while this gets rejiggered
@Eimann	WeyrNet-James: Can i bind it to an ip? It's listening on all of my ip's on this box :-/
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@doofoo	1000 req/second
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@doofoo	to the picture page
djs	is theere anything at all i can do with a windows host?
Eggatwork	doofoo what gallery software is that
torg	damn doofoo, nice mirroring.
13:24		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o X15] by Eimann
jnagro	http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/ picture mirror going up
@doofoo	no gallery, just mirroed
WeyrNet-James	Not a clue, Eimann.
WeyrNet-James	Not a clue
Houston	djs: yeah... WMS
@Eimann	WeyrNet-James: ok
bwheatley	Ok i'm also going to try and get darwin up on my 16 servers in NAP of america in miami
@NACAlex	it's moved 177 Gbytes since midnight.
djs	where do i get WMS?
cshields	jnagro: do you have it all yet?
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Houston	What windwos server u have?  2k3?
@NACAlex	something to be noted:
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@NACAlex	all of you mirroring the site could be creating more traffic than the actual users looking at the pics
jnagro	cshields: its comming down now, very fast
13:25		X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
Houston	Check Microsoft's site to download (or IIRC it is part of add/remove windows components)
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bwheatley	anyone know a way i can help mirror the scanner feeds too?
jnagro	NACAlex: have people mirror off me
sodatrain	has putting ads on the pics/mirrors to raise money for donation been ruled out?
jwiv	Video streaming is currently being established using Darwin Streaming Server(DSS).  If you would like to establish a video mirror and have a 100Mb/s connection or greater, please feel free to offer.  The main feeds are still being established and will be announced shortly.
@NACAlex	you say that like I have control of this :)
jnagro	cshields: have people mirror off me
SR3	jnagro - link
cshields	jnagro: yeah, I'll pull them from you
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djs	ye si have windwos 2k3
@doofoo	yeah it would be great if people didn't mirror me.
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theagent	DSS could do audio streams also
jnagro	http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
@doofoo	it's eating up bw like crazy
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jnagro	its comming down now
Houston	skype me ill talk u through it
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jnagro	mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
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JrM|nt	you guys looking for mirror sites?
HuweyII	Yea what do you need?
@X15	See the topic
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royb	i only have 512k up :(
twovryl	errr, is there a list of mirors anywhere?
JrM|nt	i've got two OC3's
MrSlinkyman	how much bandwidth is needed?
DJTachyon	what mirrors are most availible right now?
a36	are there any active mirrors that aren't overloaded?
royb	i have an oc3
royb	but it's telco
royb	not data. :p
torg	100mbit+ is requested for video mirrors
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Houston	lol if we arent careful we are gonna have guys mirroring mirrors
@NACAlex	ok
@NACAlex	mirror from here
@NACAlex	http://www.nola-intel.org/
@X15	JrM|nt: Setup DSS or WMS, we can use you!
Houston	not neciesadrrily a bad thing
Bluelive	mirroring mirrors is perfectly ok
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cshields	nola-intel needs to setup a private rsync for the /pictures/
DJTachyon	need dedicated mirrors and take public access away from the source
jnagro	mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
bootnet	I've got 100mbits that can be used for mirroring pics(setting it up now) and windows media streaming
HuweyII	Do you have a mirror for WMS?
HuweyII	er not mirror URL
theagent	limited access to source is what is needed
royb	we shouldn't mirror mirrors more than 2 deep, though.
HuweyII	do you have a URL for wms
@X15	If we do this right we can completly unload the source guys, they only have one OC3
Bluelive	any of the video mirroring actually working ?
Mrdini	any DSS mirrors up & running yet....?
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@X15	No mirros yet!
Etcetera	trying to get DSS up on Fedora... any pointers?
cshields	jnagro: getting a ton of 404s from you
Etcetera	the docs seem not too useful
MaxieZ	X15: Put that in the topic
theagent	someone throw up a test source from outside we can all test with....
mmead	can DSS limit bandwidth?
MrSlinkyman	what do we need to do to mirror?
jnagro	cshields: damnit
Ripside	anyone know how to configure darwin to mirror this baby?
jebba	Etcetera, I have SRPMS/RPMS available for Fedora Core. I don't have  a sample config yet though.
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royb	i can test all you need
royb	just pm me
Ripside	perhaps a separate channel for mirror-config?
kveton	anybody got a listing of all of these mirrors?
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MaxieZ	WMS or DSS
icculus	mmead: yes
Lodion	Etcetera i found the installer didnt create the qtss group, so you may need to do that manually
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kveton	we should probably get these up on nola-intel.org
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Etcetera	k
bootnet	need config for WMS mirror
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13:29		X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO MIRRORS YET | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
Etcetera	jebba: could you send a link?
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nouv	i think one team is focused on mirroring the stream
icculus	Etcetera: Untar it, run "Install", it'll dump some files into your filesystem, so take note. Make a login name for it (it's not part of /etc/passwd, it's unique to DSS), then connect with HTTP to port 1220 on your server to finish setup.
nouv	what team is focused on mirroring the site?
icculus	Etcetera: jebba will have more than that soon, I think
Etcetera	k.. thanks
Ripside	you say "wait for a stream".  What's the main stream to connect to?
mmead	icculus: thanks
mmead	I'm setting up DSS on FreeBSD
DJTachyon	who's mirror has open bandwidth for the cam stream?
nouv	or is the biggest problem the video stream?
HuweyII	I can't find a URL for WMS, google reports a million hits.  We need something that will run on Solaris.
theagent	someone put up and outside NO video stream for testing
@X15	We will be setting up a master mirror for everyone
jebba	Etcetera, see ftp.blagblagblag.org   (I have for FC2/3 right now, building RPMS for FC4 at the moment)
Houston	Ripside: AFIK We don't have a video stream to mirror yet
jwiv	Cam Stream mirror is still being worke don.
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djs	WMS is a "role" in server 2k3
jono__	can mirror feeds
jono__	lot
mmead	I can offer 3Mbit - what's the feed running at?
jono__	lot's of pipe
Houston	if you have 2k3 sp1 you will have it
theagent	someone just source a cam that isn't at DirectNIC... just for testing purpose
HuweyII	hmm we can't do that here either, no 2k3 boxes
@X15	3mbit isn't even worth it at this point
jwiv	nmead, 100Mb/s is about what the video and etc are at
HuweyII	How about a web mirror?  We can set that up in almost no time, web servers waiting.
mmead	X15: ok, doh
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djs	i have a 2k3 box that i am settin gup WMS on
mmead	jwiv: is it going raw out to the mirrors?
jono__	I've got GIG, someone has instructions?
Eggatwork	perhaps put "100mbit+" in topic heh
MaxieZ	heh
Etcetera	hmm.. not seeing it in there jebba, where in pub is it located?
mmead	Eggatwork: good idea :)
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Bluelive	who is coordinating this mirror efford ?
bwheatley	Ok almost done with my apple id :) and download LOL. had to use the can
Bluelive	we need to collect al list of working mirrors
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PhiRatE	Am trying
theagent	we have 2 different mirror efforts going on
jgrafton	are there any streaming servers that run in linux?  (sorry if this has already been asked)
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theagent	one for pics and one for webcam
PhiRatE	post if you have a mirror, I'm collecting quietly
Houston	X15 is in charge (i think :) )
JrM|nt	jgrafton:  http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
13:32		X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
nouv	I believe the mirrors that we need right now are for streams, not website.
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HuweyII	OK nouv
|ynchmob	bwheatley - http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
|ynchmob	or whoever
theagent	please specify which mirrors you're inquiring about
|ynchmob	that way no apple id needed
@X15	MrPants is in charge, i'm running the chan
jgrafton	ah, that runs on non-mac too?  well then.
ratman2	I do Jgrafton
fr4nk	what kind of throughput are the stream servers doing?
theagent	DSS runs across the board
Ripside	I have both CentOS and 2K3 boxes, trying to setup on both.
JrM|nt	jgrafton runs on mac, windows and linux
bwheatley	thanks lynchmob
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jgrafton	hm.  interesting.
|ynchmob	welcome
jwiv	fr4nk - for video 100Mb/s
spstarr_work	We need instructions on WiKi for streaming feed on Linux
theagent	DSS is a solid streaming server
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jono__	are there instructions for mirroring the video v feed
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PhiRatE	What's the url for the wiki?
@speakit	re
nouv	spstarr_work:  it's on the apple site
jono__	http://www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
theagent	we have to limit access to the source feed.  Need to be careful what we put on the wiki
spstarr_work	Darwin != Linux
torg	phirate:  www.nola-intel.org/wiki.html/
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jebba	Etcetera, pub/BLAG/linux/[20000] | [30000]/en/os/i386/BLAG/RPMS.extras/
jnagro	cshields: mirror is working, downloading now
jwiv	spstarr_work There's source code to compile it and install for linux
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fr4nk	jwiv yes but how much bandwidth is being used like over say 12 hours
spstarr_work	ok so it builds for Linux good.
jnagro	cshields: willl et you know when its all down, have people mirror off this, it will be stable and fast
Etcetera	cool.. thx
@X15	The source feed will be chainging and restricted to mirros only
PhiRatE	torg: Thanks
spstarr_work	jwiv: we should put instructions up on how to build/install
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jono__	yes, instructions
theagent	wow this could become the fastest/largest DSS system in the world
cshields	jnagro: we're just pulling from the source
13:35	spstarr_work	tries to build it
theagent	someone call Apple
@Eimann	anyone got a working relayconfig.xml?
cshields	can offer it when it's up
@X15	Write instructions, put them on the web and i'll put them in the topic
Bluelive	limit the lvl1 stream mirrors to a handfull if possible
jnagro	i have offered to put up instructs
jgrafton	is DSS better than VLC?
spstarr_work	http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar <-? ok compiling......
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Houston	People still looking for a test video stream?
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Houston	If so I'll get one up for testing
nouv	theagent: about what?
PhiRatE	Just collecting: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
PhiRatE	Houston: if you do, lemme know the url?
theagent	nouv, largest/quickest adhoc DSS system
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theagent	you can actually reflect a DSS stream with VLC
|ynchmob	before running ./Install I had to run ./Buildit (on slackware 10)
djs	i have WMS installed, now what?
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bwheatley	lyea i'm building now
torg	djs, wait for further instructions on what to point your DSS at.
jwiv	fr4nk, you'd have to ask the nac guys really, as they've been handling a lotof it up to this point.
torg	WMS rather.
13:37		X15 changed the topic of #interdictor-tech to: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | READ ME: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
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spstarr_work	yes you can with VLC
{dm}	Pardon me, anyone know what scanner would be good to get a rebroadcast of the Adome stream up easy?
djs	kk
@X15	scanner?
fr4nk	wait thats being hosted on nac?
@X15	are in houston?
jono__	FreeBSD: biggins# cd /usr/ports/net/DarwinStreamingServer/
jono__	biggins# make install
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KuDeTA	can u guys change the message on the site
KuDeTA	it says
Ripside	I can't untar it - says obsolescent base-64 headers.  crap
KuDeTA	"we need no help with streaming"
KuDeTA	when acctually
KuDeTA	u do
{dm}	Kud, there is no more stream for the AStrodome
13:38		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o jebba] by speakit
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@Yog-home	hrm.. wonder if gentoo has that
KuDeTA	np
{dm}	I was going to buy a scanner to put out a stream so someone can dish it back out
KuDeTA	i was refering to the video
@X15	{dm}: Are you in Houston?
{dm}	Yes
@X15	one sec
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jono__	who has an apple login?
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jono__	to get source?
fr4nk	thee free
mmead	http://www.spherens.com/files/tools/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar
jnagro	mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
fr4nk	make one
@NACAlex	frank
theagent	nola-intel:nolaintel
jono__	mmead: thanks
fr4nk	that works
13:40		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o laotan] by mathx
fr4nk	NACAlex yes?
@NACAlex	the servers here have used 100+ gbytes in the last 12 hours
jnagro	save bandwidth mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
@NACAlex	and are now at about 1.5 gbytes per 2 minutes
@NACAlex	and as soon as we get the other servers up, i expect that to at least triple
KuDeTA	video is what the people want
KuDeTA	:)
jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
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KuDeTA	thats what we should all be fixing
mmead	too bad multicast is not usable :(
theagent	someone pull down the cam link from the wiki and blog
asmith	Alex it is great that you are helping out.
@X15	[10:09] <tolkachi> **Apple DevGroup Login: Nola-intel Pw: nolaintel
JrM|nt	jnagro: what are you using to build your photo mirror, we can mirror off you
@mathx	I HAVE TO GET GOING SOON, *BUT* we are getting a *10GBPS* link from NAC for the picture mirroring.
@mathx	Talk to doofoo about it. h e's working on it.
mmead	anyone have a canned wget cmd line to grab pics?
PhiRatE	photo mirror link in faq
Alex_NYC	jnagro can you mirror the latest pics
jnagro	wget --mirror -p --convert-links http://pictures.nola-intel.org/
jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
mmead	jnagro: thx
@X15	dm: goto http://www.radioreference.com/
@mathx	GUYS PLEASE DONT GET THE PICTURES SERVER
@mathx	its' already locked at 100MBPS
jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
theagent	who's handling the DNS round robins for all this?
@mathx	please use jnagro's
@X15	no rr
@mathx	doofoo is dns
@MrPants	i have a separate mirror as well
@X15	ASX file
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bwheatley	ok i've got DSS instaleld anyone have an HTML doc for DSS so i know what to do now :)
@mathx	ill get doofoo in here soon
@MrPants	if anybody wants a tarball of picures:
Alex_NYC	there are new pics that need to be mirrored
@X15	MrPants: i'm pming you
jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
Bluelive	can anyone host the .asx that holds the list of mirrors ?
@Yog-home	damn 276 now
@doofoo	what's up?
@doofoo	what host?
fr4nk	ok, if your primary mirroring is going on with nac, my box will just add to your load.
geniusj	what IP?
MaxieZ	Who can't host an asx file?
geniusj	stat
@mathx	MrPants url me tarball url
Alex_NYC	send me the asx
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KuDeTA	god damn
MaxieZ	that's like hosting a static html page...
@mathx	fr4nk: they have lots of bwe.
@MrPants	http://www.tacular.com/katrina/hurricane.tar.gz
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KuDeTA	who is in charge of the video??
KuDeTA	i can help
spstarr_work	compiling.... tis big///
@X15	Ok, i'm going to start collecting IPs for the ASX file
@doofoo	who needed dns?
cfm	THink it's worth getting BitTorrent in there?
@MrPants	these are the original mirrors
@mathx	EVERYONE USE MR PANT'S TARBALL of pix please
KuDeTA	i can get it going propperly if someone with authority speaks to me
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@mathx	dont hit the server 10000times
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jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
silas	Network Connection: Server returned error
@X15	PM YOUR SERVER INFOR FOR THE ASX FILE
spstarr_work	I only have 45KB/s streaming power, which isn't enough
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@X15	TYO M,E
Bluelive	yeah but someone need to _write_ the .asx file with all the mirrors in it
13:43		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o jnagro] by mathx
@NACAlex	ok
silas	that is the error I'm getting?
F-geek	yes to bittorrent
bootnet	<---can host asx
@NACAlex	we have three boxes coming up
@NACAlex	one for streaming video
@NACAlex	one for wiki
@NACAlex	one for photos
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@mathx	NACAlex: are you at nac.net?
KuDeTA	naca
@doofoo	woot alex
@doofoo	;)
@NACAlex	i am nac.net
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13:43		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o NACAlex] by mathx
@doofoo	lol
@mathx	doofoo heh
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PhiRatE	recommend providing an rsync server for photos if possible
nouv	mrpants, is that for the whole site or just pictures?
MaxieZ	NAXAlex: you work there?
@mathx	ok ok SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!
@NACAlex	i own it
PhiRatE	this will allow other mirrors to keep up to date
13:43		mode/#interdictor-tech [+m] by mathx
@mathx	yeesh!
13:43		mode/#interdictor-tech [+o geniusj] by doofoo
@mathx	lets get organized.
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13:43		mode/#interdictor-tech [+z] by mathx
@NACAlex	we can make the photos server rsyncable
MaxieZ	NACAlex: Well then approve Tim and my server transfer ;)
@X15	PME YOUR MMS URL FOR YOUR SERVER FOR THE ASX
@jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
@mathx	thanks jnagro.
@jnagro	NACAlex: i can offer rsync of it too
@jnagro	people are already using my miror
PhiRatE	Once you ave an rsync url, please let me know.
@mathx	jnagro: thanks for the stopgap, we'll have an assload of BW from Nac in a second
cshields	jnagro: did you fix it?  last time I tried it sped through a bunch of 404's
JrM|nt	i'm pulling it down right now jnagro
@doofoo	we'll have wiki and new pictures box up quickly after they are built
@X15	I need URLS that will work guys
JrM|nt	we will be able to mirror as well shortyll
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@X15	not just server ips
@NACAlex	soofo
@NACAlex	doofoo
@NACAlex	it's imminent.
@doofoo	yes sir?
royb	nac++
MaxieZ	Well they don't work...we don't have sources ;)
@doofoo	ok. yeah I was talking to ryan
@doofoo	he had to reboot. :)
@NACAlex	the wiki box is about 4 to 6 minutes out
@mathx	* WE ARE IN +Z MODE HERE, SO WE CAN HEAR YOU, YOU JUST CANT CHAT A STORM *
MaxieZ	Sorry..smart ass habit
@mathx	doofoo: the wiki data is in the wiki.txt file
KuDeTA	OK
L337dexter	i have the WMS server up, now what do I do?
@MrPants	okay
@MrPants	my darwin server is up
Alex_NYC	i suggest distributing the asx via round robin dns
@MrPants	ready for a relay
@doofoo	yeah.. mathx we'll setup the wiki backbone
@doofoo	then we need help putting it all back into the wiki
@mathx	doofoo: and repopulate it?
@mathx	well most of the text is there
@mathx	a cutnpaste can work
@mathx	with some hand editing
cfm	Request: Chop the image archives up into 100MB chunks, get torrents running to spread the server load.
@X15	doofoo you gonna host the asx/
@Eimann	MrPants: Could u please give me the relayconfig.xml? Thanks
@NACAlex	does the DSS stuff run on CentOD?
@mathx	its only one page, really. and the about page which needs updating from all the help we've had :)
@NACAlex	CentOS, that is?
spstarr_work	trying to get other geeks (one has a T3) seeing if he can give some bandwidth for streaming....
@mathx	cfm: good idea!
spstarr_work	no response yet
13:46		mode/#interdictor-tech [+v cfm] by mathx
@jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
@Eimann	NACAlex: Jep it should run with it.
KuDeTA	i have friends and they have friends, we can provide about 10-20 diffrent servers arround the world to host your video streams. You main cam link is getting so hammered u need to pull it down for a bit and give it to people with servers only
@mathx	can we get 100mb .zips of the pictures setup somewhere and a torrent started?
@MrPants	i don't have the relayconfig.xml set up
@mathx	who wants to handle that
@Eimann	s/With/on
@NACAlex	ok
@NACAlex	we have one box with centos / 512 meg ram ready to go
nouv	mathx: i'll get that
Bluelive	so we have a few people with the feed mirroring setups running, could we get those online and listed ?
@doofoo	we can rrobin dns
@NACAlex	what do you want to use that for
@jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
theagent	might have a major cable provider wanting to reflect off their main site.....
spstarr_work	MATH: 'moo it'll take more than my T3 to feed that demand'
@doofoo	do video.nola-input.org
jono__	I have a big dual proc/LVD dual machine
spstarr_work	not sure he can do it
@geniusj	nola-input?
@doofoo	and set it to all the feed addresses once setup
@doofoo	err
jono__	yeah, a new dns for video
@doofoo	lol
@Eimann	MrPants: Hm, how did u relay?
ratman2	guys....ALL the audio feeds are down I cannot relay anything
@doofoo	been quite a few hours
@Yog-home	Evo_9: u have an EVO IX ?
@MrPants	i am not relaying
@mathx	nouv - ok
13:47		mode/#interdictor-tech [+v nouv] by mathx
@doofoo	nola-intel
@doofoo	;)
13:47	Yog-home	has an Evo 8
@MrPants	i am ready to mirror
@jnagro	save bandwidth, mirror photos off http://east-boston.utopus.net/katrina/
@doofoo	haven't slept all night
@mathx	doofoo: shh
@NACAlex	heh
@NACAlex	[13:47] <emdub> I think this is god getting back at us for too many Girls Gone Wild videos
@NACAlex	[
@mathx	hahahaha
@Yog-home	jnagro: think everyone heard you the first 23 times
@jnagro	Yog-home: ;-)
@Yog-home	jnagro: maybe put it in topic ?
MaxieZ	God love Mardi Gras.  His church created it!
spstarr_work	Math: he can't 'moo: we already run video services that generate revenue and i'm not inclined to interfere with them'
spstarr_work	:(
KuDeTA	lol, ill say once more then ill give up. i can solve your video streaming problems if one of the @'s talks to me for 5 minutes
@jnagro	Yog-home: feel free, you can view the photos there and run mirrors off it
@doofoo	spstarr: that is not the spirit.. :(
spstarr_work	:(
@Yog-home	already looked at 'em
@Yog-home	unelss ther'es new ones
Bluelive	so how do we get the mirrors working ?
theagent	anyone at DirectNIC have a problem with a major cable internet provider reflecting  the videocam?
insane|	ehllo everyone...
iapx8088	parting, find me in #-digest
@Yog-home	theagent: why would they ?
@NACAlex	besides the fasct they'd probably fubar it?
@NACAlex	:)
@doofoo	lol
L337dexter	so we are mirroring video.nola-input.org ?
theagent	Yog-home, I always ask first
13:49	Yog-home	dun get all the ppl joining tech
cshields	Yog-home: just trying to help  :P
torg	They are telling people to join us in main chan.
theagent	Yog-home, I don't just make assumptions
gh	where is a cam feed i can get into?
cshields	unfortunately it's looking a little too caotic for help
@mathx	The proxy server could not handle the request GET http://video.nola-input.org/.
@mathx	Reason: Host not found
leenerella	ok, I'm new to IRC, but I have bandwidth and disk space, and I want to help mirror the cam
@doofoo	sorry guys
@doofoo	i meant http://video.nola-intel.org
@Yog-home	i thought this chan was just the few dozen geeks in #interdictor :)
@doofoo	lol... i told you, sleep deprevation
@mathx	Yog-home: so did we.
roo9	ok, bush is trotting out the "we can walk and chew gum at the same time" thing again
torg	Yeah, that was the plan, but it's becoming mirroring central.
a36	are there any mirrors up?
_evad	This channel for mirroring?
iris_	ADMINS: We would be willing to rebroadcast the interdictor streams and any scanner streams. let me know what we can do. iris@servercity.com
@Yog-home	agh.. i wish xchat had a way of ignoring parts/joins
icculus	Yog-home: it does
torg	Yog, it does.
bootnet	does anyone have config instructions for wms mirror?
L337dexter	The Specidifed server can no tbe found
PhiRatE	FOr those using epic/IRC2:
roo9	f~Yog-home: it does, it's called conference mode
L337dexter	we need a readme for WMS server
icculus	right click the channel tab
torg	It's in the "text input" section.
@Yog-home	well.. I'm running a olld version
PhiRatE	/on ^join  "* % *"
@Yog-home	oh I remember that now
@Yog-home	lemme look
PhiRatE	will kill joins
emagdnim	I have 2GB of hosting that's yours
roo9	f~Yog-home: it's to the right of the input field, on top of the colors
T-Dawg	yog-home: right click channel
djbsquared	or run something better than xcaht :P
roo9	at the top of the ddlb
spstarr_work	compiling Darwin Streaming Server: gcc 3.4.4 on Linux builds it fine
bwheatley	bah damn DSS doestn want to run propbably on RHEL 3
torg	I can't do much for mirroring or hosting, but I'm more than happy to help answer the questions as best I can.
emagdnim	So basicly, a few of your pictures.. haha
13:52	Yog-home	likes xchat :)
spstarr_work	GNU LD 2.15.91.x.x
T-Dawg	and hit show join/part messages
@X15